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What are the MPH jobs that pay 100k?

are they few and far between?
Amethyst brunch toaster
  07/01/08
Those are probably jobs that require an MD or DO along with ...
Laughsome Step-uncle's House
  07/01/08
too dumb for med school you racist dipshit
hairraiser snowy persian gas station
  07/01/08
Higher ups in government agencies and NGOs can make that muc...
beady-eyed temple windowlicker
  07/01/08
If by "higher ups" you mean, "middle manageme...
Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
  07/01/08
Yeah, my mom works in public health (almost completely in go...
beady-eyed temple windowlicker
  07/01/08
does MPH = masters in public health?
indigo zombie-like reading party stage
  07/01/08
MHA will net you more money than an MPH, because an MHA will...
Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
  07/01/08
so whats the highest one can expect to make....
Amethyst brunch toaster
  07/01/08
Low end, 30k. High end, 50k. This is assuming no or limite...
Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
  07/01/08
man that sucks...
Amethyst brunch toaster
  07/01/08
you're lucky, that's what entire families struggle to make i...
Laughsome Step-uncle's House
  07/01/08
Some NGOs have for-profit entities that pay slightly (though...
Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
  07/01/08
"I mean, if you're looking to make six figures at age 2...
Amethyst brunch toaster
  07/01/08
The advantage of an MPH is, in the NGO world, about $10k in ...
Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
  07/01/08
he could have been a teacher..
Floppy insecure lodge roast beef
  07/01/08
he would have been laughed out of NYC
Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
  07/01/08
I don't know many teachers in normal-COL areas making 45k to...
apoplectic cuckold
  07/01/08
"I"
Floppy insecure lodge roast beef
  07/01/08
But for that you have to teach gangbangers.
Laughsome Step-uncle's House
  07/02/08
not a problem if you have some backbone
Floppy insecure lodge roast beef
  07/02/08
"I think people--especially on boards like these--tend ...
beady-eyed temple windowlicker
  07/01/08
if this is true then I am skipping town
Amethyst brunch toaster
  07/01/08
this is such a narrow-minded view. for the most part, you c...
Appetizing sweet tailpipe skinny woman
  07/01/08
thats a new concept on this board....
Amethyst brunch toaster
  07/01/08
It really sounds like you have a severely skewed sense of re...
Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
  07/01/08
no, don't jump to conclusions...
Amethyst brunch toaster
  07/01/08
i jumped ur mom
Floppy insecure lodge roast beef
  07/02/08
Work Experience, you need
Laughsome Step-uncle's House
  07/02/08
1. No one's going to pay you at the high band level if you j...
beady-eyed temple windowlicker
  07/02/08
Radiohead really knows what he's talking about here. I sugg...
Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
  07/02/08
A lot of people (not all) from top universities feel entitle...
beady-eyed temple windowlicker
  07/02/08
it doesn't stop even once they're employed. another common ...
Appetizing sweet tailpipe skinny woman
  07/02/08
helicopter parents and latent megalomania
Laughsome Step-uncle's House
  07/02/08
What I find hilarious is that, as brilliant as these people ...
Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
  07/02/08
it's a combination of delusions of grandeur along with under...
Appetizing sweet tailpipe skinny woman
  07/02/08
and sucking ass in the job/world
Floppy insecure lodge roast beef
  07/02/08
UNIONS!@@~~
Laughsome Step-uncle's House
  07/02/08
OMFG-NYC-LOLOLZ Crane Operators make $80/hr. Hows about...
Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
  07/02/08
I never said all.
Floppy insecure lodge roast beef
  07/02/08
how's that 250k BIGMIDDLESCHOOL gig treating you?
Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
  07/02/08
I'm working on it.. and summer vacation right now.
Floppy insecure lodge roast beef
  07/02/08
Sweet. I just bought a plane ticket to Tel Aviv for the fuc...
Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
  07/03/08
i'm a friend of the jew
Floppy insecure lodge roast beef
  07/03/08
:-)
Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
  07/03/08
what does MPH stand for?
geriatric double fault halford
  07/02/08
Masters in Public Health. Its a chick degree
hairraiser snowy persian gas station
  07/02/08
Would a PhD fare a bit better than an MPH? If so, by how muc...
orange nubile mad cow disease
  07/02/08
Nothing wrong with that.
Slate casino
  07/02/08
Nascar, HTH
Ungodly crystalline heaven
  07/02/08


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Date: July 1st, 2008 1:11 AM
Author: Amethyst brunch toaster
Subject: are they few and far between?

they must be in either research or the private industry. The salary for an MPH seems to range from 30-100k. That's a pretty big range, so I am wondering just what are the higher paying jobs in this field?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9934150)





Date: July 1st, 2008 1:23 AM
Author: Laughsome Step-uncle's House

Those are probably jobs that require an MD or DO along with the MPH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9934179)





Date: July 1st, 2008 3:48 AM
Author: hairraiser snowy persian gas station

too dumb for med school you racist dipshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9934507)





Date: July 1st, 2008 6:08 AM
Author: beady-eyed temple windowlicker

Higher ups in government agencies and NGOs can make that much, but that requires a lot of experience and dealing with political bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9934677)





Date: July 1st, 2008 8:20 AM
Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier

If by "higher ups" you mean, "middle management," then yes. It's easier to make 100k in the NGO world than most people think, because when most people think of NGOs, they think of IDev. There's good money to be made in the NGO world outside of the international development sector.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9934797)





Date: July 1st, 2008 10:00 AM
Author: beady-eyed temple windowlicker

Yeah, my mom works in public health (almost completely in government up until recently) and she makes pretty good money. She's running a free health clinic now and is making more money than she did in government--and she's making more than my dad, who is an accountant. I'm sure if she actually worked for a large NGO, she could be making more, but her options are limited due to geography.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9934901)





Date: July 1st, 2008 8:40 AM
Author: indigo zombie-like reading party stage

does MPH = masters in public health?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9934802)





Date: July 1st, 2008 8:19 AM
Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier

MHA will net you more money than an MPH, because an MHA will funnel you into fellowships, which lead to executive-track positions at hospitals, which almost always result in six figures by the time you hit middle management (I work for an NGO that deals specifically with hospitals, so I have a lot of experience with this). As was mentioned earlier, someone with an MPH can also get in with a health-related NGO and work your way up to a 100k+ salary in a roughly similar timeframe, depending on where you start.

As far as jobs that will allow you to jump straight from an MPH to a six-figure salary...well, I don't really know of any. I guess you could go into health care consulting and make decent money, though not even close to 100k to start, and the ceiling is often lower than it is in health administration.

There's a lot of money in health care and hospital administration. It's off the radar screen of most people on this board, but 100k should be a no-brainer as long as you're willing to prove yourself over the course of several years to begin your career.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9934794)





Date: July 1st, 2008 10:34 AM
Author: Amethyst brunch toaster
Subject: so whats the highest one can expect to make....

with an MPH, right out of grad school? First if the markets himself well, and then if he doesn't?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9934964)





Date: July 1st, 2008 10:40 AM
Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier

Low end, 30k. High end, 50k. This is assuming no or limited work experience prior to grad school. If you go the NGO route, you'll probably start around 40-45k, but you'll move up fairly quickly if you're competent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9934977)





Date: July 1st, 2008 2:08 PM
Author: Amethyst brunch toaster
Subject: man that sucks...

And this is in the private sector?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9935403)





Date: July 1st, 2008 2:42 PM
Author: Laughsome Step-uncle's House

you're lucky, that's what entire families struggle to make in large swathes of this Country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9935504)





Date: July 1st, 2008 2:49 PM
Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier

Some NGOs have for-profit entities that pay slightly (though not much) better, and some don't. I mean, if you're looking to make six figures at age 25 (or are looking to impress NYC club sluts and Wall St. types), then don't get an MPH or work for an NGO. Otherwise, I don't quite know what you're trying to get at with this thread. Even if you get an MPH and go directly into consulting, you're still going to top out around 50k.

Your salary will go up steadily after your first year or so with an NGO, but no--you won't be making $100,000 until after you've spent 4-6 years moving through the middle management ranks (and that's if you're unusually ambitious).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9935524)





Date: July 1st, 2008 3:40 PM
Author: Amethyst brunch toaster

"I mean, if you're looking to make six figures at age 25 (or are looking to impress NYC club sluts and Wall St. types), then don't get an MPH or work for an NGO. "

Ok I wasnt looking to do any of that, but I was atleast hoping for some higher compensation out of a pretty professional masters degree. I might as well stick with my BA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9935644)





Date: July 1st, 2008 3:54 PM
Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier

The advantage of an MPH is, in the NGO world, about $10k in starting salary and the fact that it increases your chances of finding a job at certain types of organizations.

I have a plain old MA, and I started toward the high end of the starting salary range. How much do you consider reasonable for somebody with a master's degree and little/no prior work experience?

I think people--especially on boards like these--tend to overestimate just how much money you are likely to make in a non-law, non-private equity/i-bank profession coming right out of school, especially in today's job market.

Accounting is a perfect example. I have a cousin--same age as I am--who earned a degree from one of the top accounting programs in the country and then went to work for one of the top firms (what do they call them? Big-8 firms or something like that? Anyway...). Everybody assumed he was making 60-75k to start. The reality was the he was making $45,000 per year. He ended up quitting after a year and moving to a botique firm where he was paid a few thousand more to do a similar job with less travel.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9935678)





Date: July 1st, 2008 4:17 PM
Author: Floppy insecure lodge roast beef

he could have been a teacher..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9935720)





Date: July 1st, 2008 4:36 PM
Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier

he would have been laughed out of NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9935765)





Date: July 1st, 2008 11:07 PM
Author: apoplectic cuckold

I don't know many teachers in normal-COL areas making 45k to start

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9936918)





Date: July 1st, 2008 11:29 PM
Author: Floppy insecure lodge roast beef

"I"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9936979)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 12:27 AM
Author: Laughsome Step-uncle's House

But for that you have to teach gangbangers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9937124)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:35 AM
Author: Floppy insecure lodge roast beef

not a problem if you have some backbone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9937867)





Date: July 1st, 2008 4:51 PM
Author: beady-eyed temple windowlicker

"I think people--especially on boards like these--tend to overestimate just how much money you are likely to make in a non-law, non-private equity/i-bank profession coming right out of school, especially in today's job market."

Of course this board has minimal concept of reality.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9935817)





Date: July 1st, 2008 9:14 PM
Author: Amethyst brunch toaster
Subject: if this is true then I am skipping town

..and head for the EU where they at least have free health care. If I am getting stuck at a dead job then I want to be stuck with more social benefits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9936565)





Date: July 1st, 2008 9:32 PM
Author: Appetizing sweet tailpipe skinny woman

this is such a narrow-minded view. for the most part, you can either take more pay in exchange for the risk of burning out/not cutting it and finding yourself unemployed in your 30s (ibanking) or less pay initially in professions that reward a strange little concept known as PAYING ONES' DUES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9936634)





Date: July 1st, 2008 9:37 PM
Author: Amethyst brunch toaster
Subject: thats a new concept on this board....

yet...I had no idea that the MPH was such a TTT degree. 40k+ spent in tuition to only make 45-50 once out?

What about a PhD in Health Policy/Clinical Sciences? Is there more pay and mobility with a PhD in this field?

God, why are the only options; soul sucking I-banking and big law? Even then I would be making 60k+ and working 60-80+ hours? Doesn't that just add to about the same as making 25 bucks an hour? Are the bonuses that great that it keeps people into this line of work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9936644)





Date: July 1st, 2008 10:55 PM
Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier

It really sounds like you have a severely skewed sense of reality.

Read: top execs (VP level and up) at NGOs and even hospitals make 250k-1m/yr depending on the organization. Happy? You just have to work your way up to that level and, as radiohead is trying to explain, PROVE YOURSELF in the field before your employer will start making that kind of investment. The vast majority of banking analysts and biglaw lawyers either can't stomach their professions long enough to make it to that level, or they max out at some middling rank and are too burned out to reach any higher.

Frankly, it doesn't sound like you have the work ethic necessary to make it in anything you'd be doing with an MPH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9936886)





Date: July 1st, 2008 11:16 PM
Author: Amethyst brunch toaster
Subject: no, don't jump to conclusions...

I understand that it's going to be a pretty rough ride and I was dissapointed at the pay, but I understand that its just how it is. I was just wondering if staying in school for the PhD rather than the MPH would fare better?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9936935)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 12:24 AM
Author: Floppy insecure lodge roast beef

i jumped ur mom

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9937116)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 12:26 AM
Author: Laughsome Step-uncle's House

Work Experience, you need

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9937122)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 4:56 AM
Author: beady-eyed temple windowlicker

1. No one's going to pay you at the high band level if you just have the master's without the proper work experience. LOL @ you showing up at an interview: "I got my master's. I want a $100k to start!" That said, having the master's will enable you to progress much faster to higher positions than people without one. Like we're all saying, you'll have to earn your dues. That's life, but it's a concept a lot of young people today fail to acknowledge.

2. If your main concern is pay, then why are you even considering an MPH? No one goes into an MPH planning to make a lot of money. The opportunities to make a comfortable salary are available after you've earned your dues, but most people studying public health are going into the field because they're passionate about it. Your way of thinking is sort of like getting a degree in education and expecting to earn a superintendent's salary immediately without any experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9937821)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 9:04 AM
Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier

Radiohead really knows what he's talking about here. I suggest you read his posts carefully. I would also add the following:

Again, it depends on work experience, but a PhD was going to be my next suggestion to you (although it's really not necessary if you just want to do health care administration). I'm actually doing both--working my way up the NGO ladder and doing my PhD at the same time (my boss was great in orchestrating a deal by which I keep my full-time position and advancement opportunities instead of teaching/TA'ing, and I still am able to take courses and finish the degree within 4 years). This way, I'll continue to move up the hierarchy for the next few years while arming myself with a credential that will help boost me into what I assume you might see as a more reasonable salary range.

Also, a caveat: if you go the MPH route, you really should't get the degree somewhere that costs $40,000 per year. These organizations aren't like big law firms or investment banks in that thay are far less concerned with where your degree came from than they are with what you bring to the table. Most MPH programs have strong pipelines into the field, so you aren't at a gigantic disadvantage if you go to a cheap state school rather than shell out unnecessary thousands of dollars to a name institution.

Finally, I'm just curious as to what you expected entry level pay to be in healthcare or at an NGO? Again, echoing radiohead's sentiment, it's a little silly to imagine that you're entitled to a six-figure salary, just because you have a master's degree and a high opinion of your own self-worth. That attitude definitely won't make for productive job interviews. If you have a master's, are good at what you do, and show commitment to the organization and to learning the field, then you should expect to be making the 50-55k range within two years. But the operative clause here is, "show commitment to the organization and learning the field." A sense of entitlement or an unwillingness to be on the bottom rung for awhile won't sit well with most folks and will result in your not lasting very long in the field at all, let alone making "good money."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9937900)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 4:44 AM
Author: beady-eyed temple windowlicker

A lot of people (not all) from top universities feel entitled to relatively high-paying jobs straight out of undergrad and anything less than a gig at a prestigious i-bank/consulting firm/hedge fund is considered failure. And a lot of them are too uppity to earn their dues anyway, but most TTTers don't have the choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9937820)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 6:05 AM
Author: Appetizing sweet tailpipe skinny woman

it doesn't stop even once they're employed. another common theme i notice is that people assume that they'll be automatically promoted/given a pay raise just by virtue of putting in 35 hours of work while listening to their ipods and surfing myspace/facebook for much of it. where does this entitlement complex come from??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9937845)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 6:24 AM
Author: Laughsome Step-uncle's House

helicopter parents and latent megalomania

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9937850)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 9:12 AM
Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier

What I find hilarious is that, as brilliant as these people fancy themselves, they apparently aren't insightful enough to realize that, over the long-term, the vast majority of lawyers and bankers won't make much more money--if any more--than somebody in health care or any number of other "alternative" careers. Burn-out and middle management stagnation see to it that this is true. At the end of the day, there are plenty of biglaw types who end up taking $90k/year in-house gigs after a few years making twice that, just to escape the biglaw lifestyle, while their peers in other, less xoxo-ish fields are working hard and ultimately surpassing them in terms of salary.

It also helps that most people willing to work for NGOs or health care organizations can stomach concept of living in locales other than New York.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9937906)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 10:02 AM
Author: Appetizing sweet tailpipe skinny woman

it's a combination of delusions of grandeur along with underestimating just how brutal the competition is to become a biglaw partner/banking managing director, it seems



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9937943)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 6:37 PM
Author: Floppy insecure lodge roast beef

and sucking ass in the job/world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9939354)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:10 PM
Author: Laughsome Step-uncle's House

UNIONS!@@~~

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9939482)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 11:41 PM
Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier

OMFG-NYC-LOLOLZ Crane Operators make $80/hr.

Hows about we all forgo college altogether?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9940424)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 11:44 PM
Author: Floppy insecure lodge roast beef

I never said all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9940434)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 11:45 PM
Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier

how's that 250k BIGMIDDLESCHOOL gig treating you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9940439)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 11:53 PM
Author: Floppy insecure lodge roast beef

I'm working on it.. and summer vacation right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9940467)





Date: July 3rd, 2008 12:27 AM
Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier

Sweet. I just bought a plane ticket to Tel Aviv for the fuck of it, even though I was just there. Life is damn sweet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9940611)





Date: July 3rd, 2008 12:28 AM
Author: Floppy insecure lodge roast beef

i'm a friend of the jew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9940616)





Date: July 3rd, 2008 12:30 AM
Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier

:-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9940624)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 12:11 AM
Author: geriatric double fault halford

what does MPH stand for?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9937075)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 4:21 AM
Author: hairraiser snowy persian gas station

Masters in Public Health. Its a chick degree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9937806)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 5:38 PM
Author: orange nubile mad cow disease

Would a PhD fare a bit better than an MPH? If so, by how much?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9939182)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 8:09 PM
Author: Slate casino

Nothing wrong with that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9939715)





Date: July 2nd, 2008 11:57 PM
Author: Ungodly crystalline heaven

Nascar, HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=830788&forum_id=1#9940491)