What are the MPH jobs that pay 100k?
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Date: July 1st, 2008 1:11 AM Author: Amethyst brunch toaster Subject: are they few and far between?
they must be in either research or the private industry. The salary for an MPH seems to range from 30-100k. That's a pretty big range, so I am wondering just what are the higher paying jobs in this field?
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Date: July 1st, 2008 8:19 AM Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
MHA will net you more money than an MPH, because an MHA will funnel you into fellowships, which lead to executive-track positions at hospitals, which almost always result in six figures by the time you hit middle management (I work for an NGO that deals specifically with hospitals, so I have a lot of experience with this). As was mentioned earlier, someone with an MPH can also get in with a health-related NGO and work your way up to a 100k+ salary in a roughly similar timeframe, depending on where you start.
As far as jobs that will allow you to jump straight from an MPH to a six-figure salary...well, I don't really know of any. I guess you could go into health care consulting and make decent money, though not even close to 100k to start, and the ceiling is often lower than it is in health administration.
There's a lot of money in health care and hospital administration. It's off the radar screen of most people on this board, but 100k should be a no-brainer as long as you're willing to prove yourself over the course of several years to begin your career.
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Date: July 1st, 2008 2:49 PM Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
Some NGOs have for-profit entities that pay slightly (though not much) better, and some don't. I mean, if you're looking to make six figures at age 25 (or are looking to impress NYC club sluts and Wall St. types), then don't get an MPH or work for an NGO. Otherwise, I don't quite know what you're trying to get at with this thread. Even if you get an MPH and go directly into consulting, you're still going to top out around 50k.
Your salary will go up steadily after your first year or so with an NGO, but no--you won't be making $100,000 until after you've spent 4-6 years moving through the middle management ranks (and that's if you're unusually ambitious).
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Date: July 1st, 2008 3:40 PM Author: Amethyst brunch toaster
"I mean, if you're looking to make six figures at age 25 (or are looking to impress NYC club sluts and Wall St. types), then don't get an MPH or work for an NGO. "
Ok I wasnt looking to do any of that, but I was atleast hoping for some higher compensation out of a pretty professional masters degree. I might as well stick with my BA.
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Date: July 1st, 2008 3:54 PM Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
The advantage of an MPH is, in the NGO world, about $10k in starting salary and the fact that it increases your chances of finding a job at certain types of organizations.
I have a plain old MA, and I started toward the high end of the starting salary range. How much do you consider reasonable for somebody with a master's degree and little/no prior work experience?
I think people--especially on boards like these--tend to overestimate just how much money you are likely to make in a non-law, non-private equity/i-bank profession coming right out of school, especially in today's job market.
Accounting is a perfect example. I have a cousin--same age as I am--who earned a degree from one of the top accounting programs in the country and then went to work for one of the top firms (what do they call them? Big-8 firms or something like that? Anyway...). Everybody assumed he was making 60-75k to start. The reality was the he was making $45,000 per year. He ended up quitting after a year and moving to a botique firm where he was paid a few thousand more to do a similar job with less travel.
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Date: July 1st, 2008 4:51 PM Author: beady-eyed temple windowlicker
"I think people--especially on boards like these--tend to overestimate just how much money you are likely to make in a non-law, non-private equity/i-bank profession coming right out of school, especially in today's job market."
Of course this board has minimal concept of reality.
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Date: July 1st, 2008 9:37 PM Author: Amethyst brunch toaster Subject: thats a new concept on this board....
yet...I had no idea that the MPH was such a TTT degree. 40k+ spent in tuition to only make 45-50 once out?
What about a PhD in Health Policy/Clinical Sciences? Is there more pay and mobility with a PhD in this field?
God, why are the only options; soul sucking I-banking and big law? Even then I would be making 60k+ and working 60-80+ hours? Doesn't that just add to about the same as making 25 bucks an hour? Are the bonuses that great that it keeps people into this line of work?
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Date: July 1st, 2008 10:55 PM Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
It really sounds like you have a severely skewed sense of reality.
Read: top execs (VP level and up) at NGOs and even hospitals make 250k-1m/yr depending on the organization. Happy? You just have to work your way up to that level and, as radiohead is trying to explain, PROVE YOURSELF in the field before your employer will start making that kind of investment. The vast majority of banking analysts and biglaw lawyers either can't stomach their professions long enough to make it to that level, or they max out at some middling rank and are too burned out to reach any higher.
Frankly, it doesn't sound like you have the work ethic necessary to make it in anything you'd be doing with an MPH.
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 4:56 AM Author: beady-eyed temple windowlicker
1. No one's going to pay you at the high band level if you just have the master's without the proper work experience. LOL @ you showing up at an interview: "I got my master's. I want a $100k to start!" That said, having the master's will enable you to progress much faster to higher positions than people without one. Like we're all saying, you'll have to earn your dues. That's life, but it's a concept a lot of young people today fail to acknowledge.
2. If your main concern is pay, then why are you even considering an MPH? No one goes into an MPH planning to make a lot of money. The opportunities to make a comfortable salary are available after you've earned your dues, but most people studying public health are going into the field because they're passionate about it. Your way of thinking is sort of like getting a degree in education and expecting to earn a superintendent's salary immediately without any experience.
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 9:04 AM Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
Radiohead really knows what he's talking about here. I suggest you read his posts carefully. I would also add the following:
Again, it depends on work experience, but a PhD was going to be my next suggestion to you (although it's really not necessary if you just want to do health care administration). I'm actually doing both--working my way up the NGO ladder and doing my PhD at the same time (my boss was great in orchestrating a deal by which I keep my full-time position and advancement opportunities instead of teaching/TA'ing, and I still am able to take courses and finish the degree within 4 years). This way, I'll continue to move up the hierarchy for the next few years while arming myself with a credential that will help boost me into what I assume you might see as a more reasonable salary range.
Also, a caveat: if you go the MPH route, you really should't get the degree somewhere that costs $40,000 per year. These organizations aren't like big law firms or investment banks in that thay are far less concerned with where your degree came from than they are with what you bring to the table. Most MPH programs have strong pipelines into the field, so you aren't at a gigantic disadvantage if you go to a cheap state school rather than shell out unnecessary thousands of dollars to a name institution.
Finally, I'm just curious as to what you expected entry level pay to be in healthcare or at an NGO? Again, echoing radiohead's sentiment, it's a little silly to imagine that you're entitled to a six-figure salary, just because you have a master's degree and a high opinion of your own self-worth. That attitude definitely won't make for productive job interviews. If you have a master's, are good at what you do, and show commitment to the organization and to learning the field, then you should expect to be making the 50-55k range within two years. But the operative clause here is, "show commitment to the organization and learning the field." A sense of entitlement or an unwillingness to be on the bottom rung for awhile won't sit well with most folks and will result in your not lasting very long in the field at all, let alone making "good money."
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 9:12 AM Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
What I find hilarious is that, as brilliant as these people fancy themselves, they apparently aren't insightful enough to realize that, over the long-term, the vast majority of lawyers and bankers won't make much more money--if any more--than somebody in health care or any number of other "alternative" careers. Burn-out and middle management stagnation see to it that this is true. At the end of the day, there are plenty of biglaw types who end up taking $90k/year in-house gigs after a few years making twice that, just to escape the biglaw lifestyle, while their peers in other, less xoxo-ish fields are working hard and ultimately surpassing them in terms of salary.
It also helps that most people willing to work for NGOs or health care organizations can stomach concept of living in locales other than New York.
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 10:02 AM Author: Appetizing sweet tailpipe skinny woman
it's a combination of delusions of grandeur along with underestimating just how brutal the competition is to become a biglaw partner/banking managing director, it seems
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 11:41 PM Author: Insanely creepy aromatic sound barrier
OMFG-NYC-LOLOLZ Crane Operators make $80/hr.
Hows about we all forgo college altogether?
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 12:11 AM Author: geriatric double fault halford
what does MPH stand for?
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 11:57 PM Author: Ungodly crystalline heaven
Nascar, HTH
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