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Date: June 16th, 2026 7:07 AM Author: vigorous brunch ratface
Lmao same. XO doesn’t get it. I was in at 154 and sold at 173.
I bought MU at 64 and sold at 72, now it’s at 1134.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5874652&forum_id=2),#49941758) |
Date: June 16th, 2026 7:32 AM Author: Razzmatazz rehab fortuitous meteor
You made a thread saying you were going all in. Everyone thought you were finally making good choices. I even congratulated you on IPO day for a job well done
I made a thread about buying and selling IPO allocations and what everyone was going to do with theirs. You ignored it
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Date: June 16th, 2026 8:19 AM Author: bronze hairy legs cumskin
wow im doin great:
The Kelly Criterion isn’t really designed for “how much of my net worth should I spend per year,” but you *can adapt the logic* in a useful way: it’s about **not betting too much of your capital on survival spending vs portfolio return capacity**.
Let’s translate your situation into something practical.
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# 🧠 Your inputs
* Net worth: **$1.25M**
* Annual spending: **$35K**
* Withdrawal rate:
[
35,000 / 1,250,000 = 2.8%
]
That’s already **very conservative**.
* No job income
* Living in Asia (lower cost base)
* Age 46 → long horizon (~40+ years)
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# 📊 Step 1: What Kelly would say in theory
Classic Kelly formula:
[
f^* = \frac{bp - q}{b}
]
But for retirement spending, we translate it into:
> “What fraction of capital can you safely allocate to a ‘bet’ (spending) given expected return vs ruin risk?”
So instead we approximate:
* Expected portfolio return (stocks/bonds mix): ~**5–7% real**
* Safe withdrawal rate (historical): ~**3–4%**
* Your withdrawal: **2.8%**
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# 🧮 Step 2: “Kelly-style” interpretation
Think of spending as a “negative return position.”
We compare:
| Metric | Value |
| -------------------- | ----- |
| Expected return | ~6% |
| Spending rate | 2.8% |
| Net growth potential | ~3% |
So you are effectively:
> **running a positive expected-value system**
Kelly implication:
* If EV > 0 and variance manageable → **you are under-betting**
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# 📉 Step 3: Fraction of “optimal risk budget”
A rough financial Kelly adaptation:
* Full Kelly withdrawal rate (aggressive theoretical upper bound): ~5–6%
* Half-Kelly (stable long-term retirees): ~2.5–3%
You are at:
> **~2.8% = basically Half-Kelly zone**
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# 🧠 What this means in plain English
### You are:
* Spending **well below danger zone**
* Not even close to sequence-of-returns risk territory (if diversified)
* Positioned more like:
> “capital preservation + slow compounding”
### You are NOT:
* Overdrawing
* Running close to ruin risk
* Financially “tight” given your NW
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# ⚠️ The real risk isn’t math — it’s structure
Kelly doesn’t capture:
* inflation spikes
* bad market decade early in retirement
* portfolio concentration risk
* behavioral drawups (travel, lifestyle creep)
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# 📊 Quick stress test
Assume:
* 40% market drawdown
* portfolio becomes: **$750K**
* same spending: $35K
New withdrawal rate:
[
35,000 / 750,000 = 4.7%
]
👉 That becomes **borderline but still survivable**
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# 🧭 Bottom line
From a Kelly-style framework:
* **Optimal “safe” band:** ~2.5–3.5%
* **You:** ~2.8%
👉 You are essentially at **near-optimal long-term spending efficiency**
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# 💡 Simple conclusion
* You are **not overspending**
* You are actually closer to **capital-preserving equilibrium**
* Your setup is more sensitive to:
* sequence risk (first 5–10 years)
* inflation shocks
* asset allocation than raw spending level
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If you want, I can:
* run a **Monte Carlo survival probability (30–50 years)**
* or tell you what spending level gives you **“zero fear mode” vs “max lifestyle mode”**
* or optimize your portfolio specifically for that 2.8% withdrawal target
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5874652&forum_id=2),#49941846)
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Date: June 16th, 2026 9:55 AM Author: indecent ultramarine pit
* Your setup is more sensitive to:
* sequence risk (first 5–10 years)
* inflation shocks
* asset allocation than raw spending level
good thing these arent even real concerns!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5874652&forum_id=2),#49941881) |
Date: July 15th, 2026 8:23 AM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,::,......;,..,:.:.,:.::,.
You're welcome
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