Mamdani marts will go bankrupt BUT WE HAVE TO STOP THEM BEFORE THAT HAPPENS
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Date: July 29th, 2026 12:07 PM Author: Jet Shrine
I posted this in the other thread:
I keep thinking about this...how would this succeed at a bigger scale? Assume it were to take marketshare from private grocery stores. Does the government "scale up" this concept and open 20 stores? 100? 500? Where do the funds come from to support such an endeavor?
Further, what incentive do most food suppliers have to sell products in these gov't run stores? It immediately undercuts their other food store customers (all of whom operate on razor thin margins)...which could lead to the private grocers refusing to take the suppliers' products. (because why would you support someone who is working with another group to kneecap your business?)
A version of this already takes place with how food companies treat mainline grocers vs. dollar stores vs. warehouse concepts. There is far less choice in a dollar store relative to a traditional grocer...why would there be any more selection in a government run grocer that operates at a loss by design?
It would seem that the potential outcomes are:
a.) The Mamdani Marts fail out of the gate for a myriad of reasons.
b.) They succeed and scale up, putting traditional grocers out of business, and requiring massive public funds to operate.
c.) They continue to operate, but with minimal selection and poor quality products because of the above-discussed factors. And not "minimal" selection like at Whole Foods (fucking lmao at this comparison), but minimal selection as in how Cuba doles out food to people.
Finally, you have to just laugh at the idea that this will save an "estimated $1,000" per family per year. Less than $100 per month. If someone wanted to save $1,000 per year on food, they could make it happen in the snap of a finger. But no, we must create a Shitlib Rube Goldberg Device to do it for them. LMAO.
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Date: July 29th, 2026 12:49 PM Author: Cerebral Twisted Abode
bodegas are driven relentlessly toward efficient sourcing.
Mamdani will have government employees running the program. because the low prices will be set by policy and subsidized by the taxpayers the Mamdani stores will tend toward very high COG.
am i wrong about that?
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Date: July 29th, 2026 12:41 PM Author: Jet Shrine
I understand this and argue that this is a likely outcome. What I am trying to understand is such a model could effectively scale up given it relies on limited taxpayer funds in order to operate. How does this model work when you scale to 25 stores? To 100? To 500?
I am not looking for the "communists seek to eliminate private property and privately-owned businesses" argument. I am looking for the practical argument from people who seem to earnestly support this endeavor.
Thus far all I get are "WHY ARE YOU SO MAD CONS?!?" I don't think anyone is mad. Speaking for myself, I am mostly perplexed. Hence my continued effort to have someone earnestly answer my straightforward questions.
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Date: July 29th, 2026 1:51 PM Author: Histrionic Glassy School
They tried it in KC. Closed after a few years. They're going to lose money and with the NYC budget tightening over the next decade because of growing pension/health care liabilities, the City will have to choose it over some other program to keep it going.
My biggest problem with it is that they're using city-owned land. That land is fucking priceless. Sell it or do a lucrative long-term lease to somebody who can make some real money off the property. If you want to help poors, throw that money at them. It's better than this boondoggle.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/city-owned-missouri-grocery-store-closes-mamdani-campaigns-some-new-york
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Date: July 29th, 2026 2:08 PM Author: Jet Shrine
Interesting. tyft.
"In a TikTok video, Mamdani said that his city-run grocery stores will "operate without a profit motive," instead of focusing on "price gouging" as he alleged some private stores do. He claimed that without having to pay rent or property taxes, these city-run stores would buy and sell at wholesale prices, centralize warehousing and distribution and be able to offer New York residents lower prices than privately-owned stores in the city."
It's just so easy. Why didn't anyone think of this before?
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Date: August 20th, 2026 11:17 PM Author: old goat
An empty lot in East Harlem is full of opportunity for grocery operator Mark Goris, who's interested in Mayor Zohran Mamdani's NYC Groceries program.
"I'm glad that the mayor did address it because a lot of people are struggling, I mean, with these food prices, inflation," he said.
Goris was on a site tour at the proposed site on La Marqueta with city Economic Development Corporation officials, as part of the bidding process to run the stores
Goris used to run a grocery store in the neighborhood.
"I think the people in this area would appreciate something like this," he said.
Still, Goris said he wouldn't have wanted to compete with it when he ran his store in the neighborhood.
"It's just going to bite out more of a market share, and stores are already struggling during this economic period," he said.
https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2026/08/19/mayor-mamdani-grocery-store-la-marqueta?cid=app_share
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