http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4643817&mc=66&forum_id=2#41057152

The facts about the Hunter Biden/Burisma situation are quite astonishing if you actually look into it. It’s been the subject of an intentional and intense disinformation campaign. Considering it is of higher gravity than the “offense” Trump was actually impeached for, it’s pretty astonishing that not a single reporter in this country has meaningfully investigated on their own.

I am going to outline some key facts, and then contrast them with official “explainers” and the Senate Republicans’ own investigative report. I don’t know what we are supposed to do with these facts, but it seems important for them to at least be out there:

1. Hunter Biden was kicked out of the military for cocaine use.

2. Shortly after, he was given a position on Burisma’s Board of Directors, in 2014, paying $50,000 per month. Burisma is a Ukranian energy company.

3. Hunter does not speak Ukranian.

4. Apparently one of Mitt Romney’s top advisors from his presidential campaign is a CIA veteran of 30 years who was also hired for Burisma’s Board during the same time as Hunter:

https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/26/top-romney-adviser-worked-with-hunter-biden-on-board-of-ukrainian-energy-company/

5. Fact #4 has basically been completely memoryholed.

6. Burisma was being investigated for corruption by a Ukranian prosecutor named Viktor Shokin.

7. Biden was found on video openly bragging that he threatened top Ukranian officials by guaranteeing they would not receive $1 billion in needed aid unless Shokin was removed by the time Biden boarded a plane in 6 hours. On the same video, he then brags that his threats worked, and Shokin was replaced by, in Biden’s own words, “someone solid.”

https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/24/watch-joe-biden-brag-about-bribing-ukraine-to-fire-the-prosecutor-investigating-his-sons-company/

8. The replacement prosecutor concluded that Hunter did nothing wrong. Romney’s advisor who was on the Burisma Board at the same time, along with the CIA and Romney, were never addressed by the replacement prosecutor.

9. The investigation ended in Burisma paying a fine with no arrests made.

10. The Biden video has been officially “debunked.” More on #10 in my next post.

11. As a result of this “debunking,” no one is permitted to discuss Hunter or Burisma. When Trump started on the subject during the first debate, the moderator and media screamed at him.

12. The Senate Republicans recently released an official investigation report which concluded Hunter Biden’s payoff from Burisma did not affect US policy towards Ukraine and instead merely was “awkward” and “interferes with the efficient execution of policy.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hunter-biden-s-ukraine-ties-awkward-but-impact-on-us-policy-unclear-report-finds/ar-BB19ltq5

13. The Senate Republican report makes absolutely no mention of Mitt Romney, his former top advisor who was a CIA veteran for 30 years and was on Burisma’s Board at the same time as Hunter, or the CIA.

14. The Senate Republican report also “confirmed” the prior debunking referenced in #10. As the WSJ states: “The findings, outlined in an 87-page report, don’t support a central accusation President Trump and other Republicans have made about Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden’s duties in Ukraine: that he sought the removal of the country’s top prosecutor to protect the gas company, Burisma Holdings, from investigation.”

Why? As the WSJ buries at the very end of their article, it is because:

“Joe Biden’s actions at the time had the support of the Obama administration, Republicans in Congress and U.S. allies, and were aimed at a prosecutor accused of corruption at a time the Burisma probe was dormant. The report states that witnesses said Joe Biden was executing the U.S. policy consensus by pushing for the removal of the prosecutor, Viktor Shokin.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/republican-probe-finds-hunter-bidens-ukraine-work-raised-concerns-with-obama-officials-11600859178

So, as a result of all the above, there is bipartisan agreement, backed by the US intelligence community, that Biden did absolutely nothing wrong in successfully replacing Shokin before his Burisma corruption investigation could reach 2014 and uncover the circumstances behind Hunter Biden and top Romney advisor and CIA veteran of 30 years from receiving corrupt money from Burisma.

Shokin’s replacement found absolutely nothing wrong with Hunter and didn’t discuss Romney or his advisor or the CIA. Nothing to see here, clearly the Deep State wasn’t involved. And the Senate Republicans have relied on the Deep State to “debunk” the Biden video, so the only person who would think anything suspicious went on is Trump and dangerous Russians seeking to sow misinformation.

Or is this the case? Next, I will do a deep dive into the “debunking” referenced in #10 and 14.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4644897&forum_id=2),#41065102)

I think if you read my entire OP and then read my entire response below, I am scratching the surface of something huge:

Hi Jim Comey!

Why is it that you keep furiously redirecting all attention away from Romney’s top advisor who also was a CIA veteran for 30 years and also was receiving corrupt money from Burisma at the same time as Hunter? Why is it that you said “the theory here is that this board seat somehow made the Obama administration go easy on Burisma” but never mentioned Biden’s admissions on video where he bragged about getting Shokin replaced by, in his own words, “someone solid?” Why is your position ITT the verbatim position of the US intelligence community on the issue?

Yes, I’m aware of certain relevant “current events,” usually in the form of mass media articles which have been edited by Deep State operatives before being published. Here’s an “explainer” which makes the points you are making ITT. Let’s take a look at it:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/03/what-really-happened-when-biden-forced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/

Here’s the headline: “Explainer: Biden, allies pushed out Ukrainian prosecutor because he didn't pursue corruption cases”

Wow! Biden and his “allies” sound like staunch anti corruption men! They are SO concerned about corruption taking place in a country notorious for corruption, that they decided to intervene in another country’s affairs to push out just one prosecutor, leaving the rest of the system alone. Biden also decided not to intervene in any other country’s affairs to remove one of their prosecutors, despite corruption being very rampant in plenty of our allies in that part of the world. Strange for a guy who cares so much about fighting corruption to only focus on Shokin for not doing enough to pursue corruption, or maybe for falsifying gun permits as you say elsewhere ITT, and then just ignore every other country.

Moreover, after Shokin was removed, it’s mighty strange that Biden never followed up on the status of the Burisma investigation. Guess Biden bragging on video about he being the one to get Shokin replaced by “someone solid,” but then never following up on the status of the investigation with the new guy, is perfectly normal. Remind me, did the Burisma investigation go anywhere into Hunter or the CIA or Romney’s top advisor after Shokin was removed??

Let’s look some more at your explainer.

“It wasn't because Shokin was investigating a natural gas company tied to Biden's son; it was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians, according to a Ukrainian official and four former American officials who specialized in Ukraine and Europe.

Shokin's inaction prompted international calls for his ouster and ultimately resulted in his removal by Ukraine's parliament.”

Ah, ok, I understand. Like you said, Shokin just wasn’t pursuing corruption among the country’s politicians so there were international calls for his ouster. It makes perfect sense for Biden and our allies abroad to be so concerned that one corrupt country has a prosecutor who wasn’t doing enough to pursue corruption in that country’s politicians, that it would prompt international calls for his ouster. Certainly organic and not contrived as part of a larger playbook. Let’s read a little more:

“Without pressure from Joe Biden, European diplomats, the International Monetary Fund and other international organizations, Shokin would not have been fired, said Daria Kaleniuk, co-founder and executive director of the Anti Corruption Action Centre in Kiev.

"Civil society organizations in Ukraine were pressing for his resignation," Kaleniuk said, "but no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go."

Wait a minute. Doesn’t this sound like the Deep State’s playbook which is followed to a T in countries around the globe? Use proxies to agitate internally and then condemn from abroad? Why is the International Monetary Fund getting involved? Isn’t it strange that the US intelligence community and Biden say that Shokin had to be removed because he was so ineffective/corrupt, but the Anti Corruption Action Center says that “no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go?”

I know, the Anti Corruption Action Center must be Russia!!! Ignore everything they say and only listen to what my allies tell you! Let’s move on:

“Burisma Holdings was not under scrutiny at the time Joe Biden called for Shokin's ouster, according to the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, an independent agency set up in 2014 that has worked closely with the FBI.

Shokin's office had investigated Burisma, but the probe focused on a period before Hunter Biden joined the company, according to the anti-corruption bureau.

The investigation dealt with the Ministry of Ecology, which allegedly granted special permits to Burisma between 2010 and 2012, the agency said. Hunter Biden did not join the company until 2014.”

Wait a minute. We just heard from the Anti Corruption Action Center. Who is the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine? They are an “independent agency” that was only set up in 2014 (the same year Hunter was hired by Burisma and possibly the same year Romney’s advisor was hired by Burisma) that “has worked closely with the FBI.” You don’t say???? That certainly seems curious, no? Was this ever investigated? I think we know the answer to that.

More importantly, is the conclusion in the first paragraph (Burisma Holdings was not under scrutiny at the time Joe Biden called for Shokin's ouster) actually supported by the next two paragraphs??? I don’t think so. The “independent agency” said that the investigation into Burisma was only focused on 2010-2012 and Hunter (and Romney’s advisor) didn’t join until later. This doesn’t mean Burisma wasn’t under scrutiny for 2014. It quite clearly means that Shokin was about to reach 2014 in his Burisma investigation and that’s why Biden/the Deep State threatened to withhold $1 billion in needed aid unless Shokin was IMMEDIATELY removed, as Biden later bragged on video.

Ok, here’s the million dollar question: How did the Burisma investigation ultimately end after staunch anti corruption crusader Joe Biden got Shokin removed for not doing enough to pursue corruption in Ukraine and replaced by, in his words, “someone solid”??

“There is no evidence Hunter Biden did anything wrong, said Yuri Lutsenko, the prosecutor general who succeeded Shokin.

However, Lutsenko, who's also faced criticism for his actions as prosecutor, supported Trump's claim before changing his story. He resigned as prosecutor in August.

The Burisma investigation ended with a settlement and a fine paid by one of the firm's accountants, according to Sergii Leshchenko, a former Ukrainian lawmaker who spearheaded anti-corruption efforts under former President Petro Poroshenko.“

Guess that’s it folks. NOTHING TO SEE HERE!! GO HOME!!! OP, YOU ARE A DELUSIONAL DROOLING IDIOT REPEATING RUSSIAN TALKING POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN REPEATEDLY DEBUNKED!!! IF YOU KEEP THIS UP YOU WILL HAVE TO BE SILENCED FOR NATIONAL SECURITY!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4643817&forum_id=2#41064660)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4644897&forum_id=2),#41065134)

I would love for someone to read all of this and provide an actual substantive rebuttal and not just disinformation and ad homimems

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4644897&forum_id=2),#41065203)

Author: galvanic naked boiling water hall

After making the prior thread, a pumo who was MAF began spouting talking points from the Deep State, verbatim. For the promised deep dive into #10, I am just copying my most comprehensive reply to this pumo.

I think if you read my entire OP and then read my entire response below, I am scratching the surface of something huge:

Hi Jim Comey!

Why is it that you keep furiously redirecting all attention away from Romney’s top advisor who also was a CIA veteran for 30 years and also was receiving corrupt money from Burisma at the same time as Hunter? Why is it that you said “the theory here is that this board seat somehow made the Obama administration go easy on Burisma” but never mentioned Biden’s admissions on video where he bragged about getting Shokin replaced by, in his own words, “someone solid?” Why is your position ITT the verbatim position of the US intelligence community on the issue?

Yes, I’m aware of certain relevant “current events,” usually in the form of mass media articles which have been edited by Deep State operatives before being published. Here’s an “explainer” which makes the points you are making ITT. Let’s take a look at it:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/03/what-really-happened-when-biden-forced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/

Here’s the headline: “Explainer: Biden, allies pushed out Ukrainian prosecutor because he didn't pursue corruption cases”

Wow! Biden and his “allies” sound like staunch anti corruption men! They are SO concerned about corruption taking place in a country notorious for corruption, that they decided to intervene in another country’s affairs to push out just one prosecutor, leaving the rest of the system alone. Biden also decided not to intervene in any other country’s affairs to remove one of their prosecutors, despite corruption being very rampant in plenty of our allies in that part of the world. Strange for a guy who cares so much about fighting corruption to only focus on Shokin for not doing enough to pursue corruption, or maybe for falsifying gun permits as you say elsewhere ITT, and then just ignore every other country.

Moreover, after Shokin was removed, it’s mighty strange that Biden never followed up on the status of the Burisma investigation. Guess Biden bragging on video about he being the one to get Shokin replaced by “someone solid,” but then never following up on the status of the investigation with the new guy, is perfectly normal. Remind me, did the Burisma investigation go anywhere into Hunter or the CIA or Romney’s top advisor after Shokin was removed??

Let’s look some more at your explainer.

“It wasn't because Shokin was investigating a natural gas company tied to Biden's son; it was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians, according to a Ukrainian official and four former American officials who specialized in Ukraine and Europe.

Shokin's inaction prompted international calls for his ouster and ultimately resulted in his removal by Ukraine's parliament.”

Ah, ok, I understand. Like you said, Shokin just wasn’t pursuing corruption among the country’s politicians so there were international calls for his ouster. It makes perfect sense for Biden and our allies abroad to be so concerned that one corrupt country has a prosecutor who wasn’t doing enough to pursue corruption in that country’s politicians, that it would prompt international calls for his ouster. Certainly organic and not contrived as part of a larger playbook. Let’s read a little more:

“Without pressure from Joe Biden, European diplomats, the International Monetary Fund and other international organizations, Shokin would not have been fired, said Daria Kaleniuk, co-founder and executive director of the Anti Corruption Action Centre in Kiev.

"Civil society organizations in Ukraine were pressing for his resignation," Kaleniuk said, "but no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go."

Wait a minute. Doesn’t this sound like the Deep State’s playbook which is followed to a T in countries around the globe? Use proxies to agitate internally and then condemn from abroad? Why is the International Monetary Fund getting involved? Isn’t it strange that the US intelligence community and Biden say that Shokin had to be removed because he was so ineffective/corrupt, but the Anti Corruption Action Center says that “no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go?”

I know, the Anti Corruption Action Center must be Russia!!! Ignore everything they say and only listen to what my allies tell you! Let’s move on:

“Burisma Holdings was not under scrutiny at the time Joe Biden called for Shokin's ouster, according to the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, an independent agency set up in 2014 that has worked closely with the FBI.

Shokin's office had investigated Burisma, but the probe focused on a period before Hunter Biden joined the company, according to the anti-corruption bureau.

The investigation dealt with the Ministry of Ecology, which allegedly granted special permits to Burisma between 2010 and 2012, the agency said. Hunter Biden did not join the company until 2014.”

Wait a minute. We just heard from the Anti Corruption Action Center. Who is the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine? They are an “independent agency” that was only set up in 2014 (the same year Hunter was hired by Burisma and possibly the same year Romney’s advisor was hired by Burisma) that “has worked closely with the FBI.” You don’t say???? That certainly seems curious, no? Was this ever investigated? I think we know the answer to that.

More importantly, is the conclusion in the first paragraph (Burisma Holdings was not under scrutiny at the time Joe Biden called for Shokin's ouster) actually supported by the next two paragraphs??? I don’t think so. The “independent agency” said that the investigation into Burisma was only focused on 2010-2012 and Hunter (and Romney’s advisor) didn’t join until later. This doesn’t mean Burisma wasn’t under scrutiny for 2014. It quite clearly means that Shokin was about to reach 2014 in his Burisma investigation and that’s why Biden/the Deep State threatened to withhold $1 billion in needed aid unless Shokin was IMMEDIATELY removed, as Biden later bragged on video.

Ok, here’s the million dollar question: How did the Burisma investigation ultimately end after staunch anti corruption crusader Joe Biden got Shokin removed for not doing enough to pursue corruption in Ukraine and replaced by, in his words, “someone solid”??

“There is no evidence Hunter Biden did anything wrong, said Yuri Lutsenko, the prosecutor general who succeeded Shokin.

However, Lutsenko, who's also faced criticism for his actions as prosecutor, supported Trump's claim before changing his story. He resigned as prosecutor in August.

The Burisma investigation ended with a settlement and a fine paid by one of the firm's accountants, according to Sergii Leshchenko, a former Ukrainian lawmaker who spearheaded anti-corruption efforts under former President Petro Poroshenko.“

Guess that’s it folks. NOTHING TO SEE HERE!! GO HOME!!! OP, YOU ARE A DELUSIONAL DROOLING IDIOT REPEATING RUSSIAN TALKING POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN REPEATEDLY DEBUNKED!!! IF YOU KEEP THIS UP YOU WILL HAVE TO BE SILENCED FOR NATIONAL SECURITY!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4643817&forum_id=2#41064660)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4644897&forum_id=2),#41201345)

And the “debunking” of that video, which largely consisted of Deep State proxies saying the official policy of the US Government was to have that prosecutor removed (before he could get to Hunter Biden and Romney’s top advisor - a 30 year CIA veteran) because he was too slow to investigate political corruption.

Trump was literally impeached as a defensive measure to completely deflect away from everything discussed ITT.

Why do you think we never hear about the impeachment anymore? It has already served its purpose. It deflected from the damning Biden video, bought some time for it to be officially “debunked” through a bipartisan investigation which completely omitted Romney’s top advisor’s role at Burisma while Hunter was there, and now no one is allowed to speak of the issue again. Mission accomplished.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4644897&forum_id=2),#41065576)

As it is, he’s being subject to INSANE gaslighting, and feels the deep injustice of what’s going on, but can’t articulate it. This provides the necessary articulation, and as you can see, it is much bigger than Trump.

The International Monetary Fund had called for the removal of the prosecutor who was going to investigate Hunter Biden and Romney top advisor/CIA veteran of 30 years, and their crooked money received from Burisma. Then Biden goes ahead and forces the removal, and the replacement stooge predictably finds nothing. Then Trump gets impeached as a deflective measure, with all details of the Romney/CIA/Hunter/Burisma connection entirely removed!

This stuff is such an obvious cover up!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4644897&forum_id=2),#41066730)

The intelligence community is caught up in the Burisma corruption, arranged for a bipartisan investigation which “absolved” Hunter Biden, impeached Trump as a massive defensive mechanism, and are now pulling out all the stops to prevent this story from seeing the light of day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4644897&forum_id=2),#41111572)

Do you think it’s a coincidence that the “independent” Ukranian anti-corruption bureau was set up in 2014 and was linked to the FBI? And 2014 was the same year that Hunter started receiving corrupt Burisma money and Romney’s top advisor and CIA VETERAN of 30 years also started receiving it with Hunter in 2014?

My point is that our intelligence community set up this “independent” organization as a proxy to cover up this BIPARTISAN corruption, and this is precisely what occurred. They then arranged for Trump to be impeached as a tactic to throw off any scrutiny on the financing arrangement.

Ukraine wants to buy favors from us. They shave off some of their oil revenues and funnel it to influential people on both sides (Hunter Biden and top Romney advisor). The intelligence community is in on it and that’s why the “independent” anti-corruption bureau is set up and why a CIA veteran of 30 years is chosen to receive $$$ from Burisma.

Trump the outsider is like a bull in a china shop, clumsily waving a flashlight around everywhere. Can’t have that happening!! Outsiders must be removed and never permitted to be in the WH again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4644897&forum_id=2),#41117462)