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Question about European feudalism.
| Aphrodisiac prole | 06/14/13 |
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| Nazca Redlines | 04/23/26 |
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: Aphrodisiac prole Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49464738) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49495268) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49497250) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49500993) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49536032) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49545634) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49545665) |
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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49548639) |
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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49562700) |
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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49567730) |
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49584404) |
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49589879) |
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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM Author: disrespectful rebellious keepsake machete kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49604959) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:08 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49838395) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:38 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49838453) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Charcoal ape love of her life Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: umber swashbuckling hell Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: Charcoal ape love of her life (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: umber swashbuckling hell They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Charcoal ape love of her life read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Arousing cheese-eating stage ceo Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Rusted Nowag Juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: purple marvelous station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Appetizing university what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: Histrionic address weed whacker cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Copper Friendly Grandma Queen Of The Night I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: Arousing cheese-eating stage ceo teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: rambunctious alcoholic space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Cocky big striped hyena i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Provocative Crystalline French Chef Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Internet-worthy bipolar depressive really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Lime nursing home brethren It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: Slippery Olive Chapel Stock Car it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: Lime nursing home brethren Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Internet-worthy bipolar depressive actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Nazca Redlines 13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails
you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Nazca Redlines "Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2),#49838410) |