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"AI" is borderline just a scam now lol

guys like altman are just knowingly lying about current and ...
Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
That's the art of the deal
bungulator
  11/26/25
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Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
I can't even get grok to get my new imagine wife to show me ...
Reinhard Heydrich Uunona
  11/26/25
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Adolf Hitler Uunona
  11/26/25
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Amateur Millennial Butt Porn
  11/26/25
It's Over
Juan Eighty
  11/26/25
sounds like it aced the turing test.
real men wearing real watches
  11/26/25
SV is a uniquely scammy culture where tech cos have been all...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  11/26/25
Ilya Sutskever's new company has 30 billion in VC funding an...
Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
In my adult life I've made something like 1,000x more money ...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  11/26/25
TWTR was incredibly lulzy. For years it was mind-boggling th...
Juan Eighty
  11/26/25
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Paralegal Mohammad
  11/26/25
180. Accurate, intelligent, concise. The only other thing...
Refunkulus
  11/26/25
Good post. SV is good at displacing shittier industries gene...
SneakersSO
  11/26/25
So good for us regular people who need to stay employed?
.;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
  11/26/25
no because it will take a while to take advantage of current...
Nothing Ever Happens
  11/26/25
are pretty much all programmers fucked?
Paralegal Jahangir
  11/26/25
to be clear, everyone is fucked unless you're in the elite t...
Nothing Ever Happens
  11/26/25
If we could just get it where it would stop hallucinating la...
scholarship
  11/26/25
Going to be funny when your AI watches Secretary and starts ...
Amateur Millennial Butt Porn
  11/26/25
This will absolutely backfire on me and lead to my death
scholarship
  11/26/25
I understand why it might feel that way from your perspectiv...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
doesn't the LLM model have a theoretical and a practical lim...
Paralegal Jahangir
  11/26/25
doubt it. that shit will probably just keep SCALING AND SCAL...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
can't tell if this is sarcasm
Paralegal Jahangir
  11/26/25
I’m partially kidding. I don’t think it will be ...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
are the non-diminishing returns in the (online) room with us...
Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
nah they'll come though I promise
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25
https://x.com/GoySuperstar/status/1993719651495547061 btw...
Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
"We know that LLMs can't generalize" what does ...
Nothing Ever Happens
  11/26/25
it means that LLMs can't generalize, Champ LLMs can only ...
Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
yes but give me a specific example of what you are talking a...
Nothing Ever Happens
  11/26/25
well, LLMs *aren't* trained on the entirety of human knowled...
Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
  11/26/25
lol this is not what cant generalize means and it’s al...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/26/25


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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck

guys like altman are just knowingly lying about current and future projected capabilities. it's really obvious by now that LLMs are not going to make any more qualitative leaps, and the "scaling hypothesis" no longer holds

i'm not saying that LLMs won't keep getting marginally better, and that people will find very useful ways of implementing them in practice - they will. but any talk of "AGI" or generalized capabilities in LLMs is at this point knowingly and deliberately misleading and meant to deceive the public and investors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462237)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: bungulator

That's the art of the deal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462243)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:31 AM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462348)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:35 AM
Author: Reinhard Heydrich Uunona (✅🍑)

I can't even get grok to get my new imagine wife to show me her tits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462370)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:16 AM
Author: Adolf Hitler Uunona



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462463)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: Amateur Millennial Butt Porn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462482)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Juan Eighty

It's Over

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462613)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:12 PM
Author: real men wearing real watches

sounds like it aced the turing test.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462650)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:02 AM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

SV is a uniquely scammy culture where tech cos have been allowed to huck futuristic bullshit to a public and a market that doesn't fully understand the tech and is desperate for something to speculate on. Compare this to say, the biotech or pharma fields, where they could theoretically do the same thing but the regulatory environment is oppressive enough to where it's reigned in the culture, so ppl shy away from hype even if that hype wouldn't actually get you cracked down on. (I always say that if Elizabeth Holmes had just stuck to SV bread and butter instead of making a fake blood testing machine, she'd 100% be a billionaire, and probably have moved on to CEO of an incumbent firm, today.)

As big a problem as (maybe bigger than) the technologists themselves is VC. The firms VCs invest in aren't publicly traded, so there's no opportunity to short, resulting in a field where no one shits on anyone else's investment and it's a pure one-way positive feedback loop. Venture capitalists are known to get catty and defensive as fuck at the most gentle/accidental passing criticism from other VCs, because that's not how the game is played and everyone should know that a rising tide of hype raises all fraud ships.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462432)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck

Ilya Sutskever's new company has 30 billion in VC funding and when asked how they are going to make money, he straight up did not have any answer. didn't even pretend like they had a plan

meanwhile actual american businesses in industries that actually make and do important stuff can't get any funding at all

"private equity" sure seems like nothing more than an entire "industry" of pump and dump scamming

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462450)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

In my adult life I've made something like 1,000x more money on crypto than the stock market, despite investing MORE in the latter.

I am by no means some deep ideological believer in crypto, but when TWTR reached a market cap of $60B while posting growing YOY losses as their -4% profit margin widened--with no plan for doing anything different; dorsey would just give different answers everytime he was asked, and that other turdskin would just start babbling in hindi or whatever and hope that the white-girl CNBC reporter would start to wonder if she picked out the wrong turd from the conference room and just abashedly back away--I really started to appreciate the comparatively Sound Fundamentals of the BTC fake (and never actually used) internet-money market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462485)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: Juan Eighty

TWTR was incredibly lulzy. For years it was mind-boggling that it was included in bigtech indices despite producing minimal revenue

and then it turns out its value prop the whole time was being a shiny object to the world's richest sperg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462624)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462477)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:14 PM
Author: Refunkulus (I Always Post Always TP)

180. Accurate, intelligent, concise.

The only other thing I would add is that VC switched from a risk sharing model (1970s to around 2008) where partners at the firms would contribute their own capital; to a risk shofting model (2009-Present) where VC funds mostly gather assets and then stuff junk into funds and charge a fee.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462654)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: SneakersSO

Good post. SV is good at displacing shittier industries generally. So GOOGL grew by Ruining newspapers and magazines and shit. FB grew by being better than "scrapbooking" or "yearbooks" or something. AI needs to find something shittier and more useless than AI, and use AI to Ruin it. Discuss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462684)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:13 AM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,


So good for us regular people who need to stay employed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462458)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: Nothing Ever Happens (🧐)

no because it will take a while to take advantage of current capabilities. knowledge workers are still fucked. it's more along the lines of "don't expect some kurzweilian self-perpetuating singularity or massive societal reorganization within the next decade"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462460)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:16 AM
Author: Paralegal Jahangir

are pretty much all programmers fucked?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462466)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: Nothing Ever Happens (🧐)

to be clear, everyone is fucked unless you're in the elite tier of your profession. yeah law is a cartel and blah blah blah but the free market will ultimately win (obviously shitlaw and stuff is different, talking about biglaw and the types of "professions" which really just leach off regulations and byzantine corporate structures)

it won't happen overnight though. our Gen is probably still largely fine, maybe we'll have to maek it as policemen at 50 or something. but anybody under 30 and especially those coming out of college now are going to experience a much different job market

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462481)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:18 AM
Author: scholarship

If we could just get it where it would stop hallucinating law then it would be huge. I’ve started trying different threats in prompts and it seems to help a little. Like I’ll tell it a law problem and then say “you’re my genius associate who always double checks his case law because he doesn’t want to go back in the Punishment Closet”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462473)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: Amateur Millennial Butt Porn

Going to be funny when your AI watches Secretary and starts making mistakes on purpose so that you yell at it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462486)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:23 AM
Author: scholarship

This will absolutely backfire on me and lead to my death

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462489)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:23 AM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

I understand why it might feel that way from your perspective but it isn’t reality. You think it plateaued due to a human cognitive bias toward assuming diminishing returns which doesn’t hold in this case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462488)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: Paralegal Jahangir

doesn't the LLM model have a theoretical and a practical limit for accuracy and usefulness?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462537)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:45 AM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

doubt it. that shit will probably just keep SCALING AND SCALING in ways we currently CANT EVEN FATHOM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462556)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:52 AM
Author: Paralegal Jahangir

can't tell if this is sarcasm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462584)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

I’m partially kidding. I don’t think it will be a smooth exponential with unbounded scaling but plateau arguments are almost certainly wrong. I think it will follow q somewhat smooth scaling law until some constraint gets in the way and then architecture changes will cause a phase shift that breaks through the constraints. But it’s already superhuman on most cognitive tasks so idk what you want more from it anyway? Even in the areas experts still outperform it it will usually be due to human representation and semantic quirks. Pretty much all of the things human mathematicians still outperform it on are like that — issues where humans represent things in specific ways so other humans can understand the ideas and also because of human limits in perception and cognitive bandwidth and this throws the model off structurally

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462701)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck

are the non-diminishing returns in the (online) room with us right now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462552)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

nah they'll come though I promise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462554)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:47 AM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck

https://x.com/GoySuperstar/status/1993719651495547061

btw i was completely right about models being specifically RL trained to perform on evals, and that's the reason why they're performing increasingly well on evals while overall capabilities are stagnating (duh)

machine learning pumo here didn't believe me, but now we've got the leading guys in the industry admitting it outright

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462562)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:09 PM
Author: Nothing Ever Happens (🧐)

"We know that LLMs can't generalize"

what does this even mean? I don't think anybody ever trained an LLM on Pathfinder 1E rules but it does a decent job of sorting through something that is comically in depth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462645)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:13 PM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck

it means that LLMs can't generalize, Champ

LLMs can only produce stuff that's within its training distribution. everything outside of its training is Inaccessible for the LLM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462653)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: Nothing Ever Happens (🧐)

yes but give me a specific example of what you are talking about given that LLMs are trained on the entirety of human knowledge and media

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462671)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck

well, LLMs *aren't* trained on the entirety of human knowledge. that's the point. they're trained on the stuff in their training data (a bunch of words that definitely don't include all human knowledge)

for example, in l*w: LLMs do a pretty good job, actually, of evaluating and "reasoning" about cases that have the same structure as other cases in their training data. but any remotely novel kind of legal case, and they totally fail

humans *can* generalize, at least to a far greater extent than LLMs. we can see a completely novel legal case and reason about it pretty well. we can create a mental model of the whole case and think about it accurately and coherently. LLMs can't do that at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462704)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

lol this is not what cant generalize means and it’s also wildly false

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2)#49462706)