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is Greg 'The Professor' Maddux the most underrated pitcher of all time?

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Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier
  04/05/26
Underrated by whom? He’s revered
Green ladyboy
  04/05/26
how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?
Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier
  04/05/26
He's undoubtedly top 3
jet-lagged blathering pit love of her life
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan? Randy Johnson?
Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind to...
Green ladyboy
  04/05/26
honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name ...
Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier
  04/05/26
Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order: Maddux Joh...
jet-lagged blathering pit love of her life
  04/05/26
cr but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or ...
Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier
  04/05/26
Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO
jet-lagged blathering pit love of her life
  04/05/26
all 3 above above ryan?
Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier
  04/05/26
pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete...
cordovan nubile dilemma elastic band
  04/05/26
Hard to say but he’s up there for sure
Green ladyboy
  04/05/26
he's def most high iq though, no?
Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier
  04/05/26
Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal ...
Green ladyboy
  04/05/26
the latter obv i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the ...
Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier
  04/05/26
Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. N...
Green ladyboy
  04/05/26
cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bob...
Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier
  04/05/26
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Racist Redneck from Alabama
  06/04/26
he's appropriately rated
disturbing lodge
  04/05/26
lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher ...
Titillating hospital
  04/05/26
Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?
Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier
  04/05/26
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overrated abode nowag
  04/06/26
Pedro was better (than anyone).
diverse chapel dingle berry
  04/05/26
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disturbing lodge
  04/05/26
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Lilac laser beams roast beef
  04/07/26
He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys...
Swashbuckling Station Wagecucks
  04/05/26
Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generat...
Floppy dark ratface preventive strike
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smart...
Concupiscible Rigor Candlestick Maker
  04/06/26
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Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier
  04/06/26
He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorr...
overrated abode nowag
  04/06/26
yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1...
Concupiscible Rigor Candlestick Maker
  04/06/26
Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently h...
overrated abode nowag
  04/07/26
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Yichudim
  06/04/26
do not google. there at 10 pitchers with WAR of 100 or gr...
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Randy Johnson Clemmons Pedro Ryan Glavine Bab...
Yichudim
  06/04/26
this career WAR. you got these right. 1. Cy Young+ (22)...
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No Goog
tokens in abundance
  06/04/26


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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: Green ladyboy

Underrated by whom? He’s revered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796396)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier

how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: jet-lagged blathering pit love of her life

He's undoubtedly top 3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796399)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier

Nolan Ryan?

Randy Johnson?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796405)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: Green ladyboy

Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind too but idk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796411)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier

honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name a top 3-5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796419)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:50 PM
Author: jet-lagged blathering pit love of her life

Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order:

Maddux

Johnson

Martinez

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796426)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier

cr

but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or are they well outside top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: jet-lagged blathering pit love of her life

Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796436)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier

all 3 above above ryan?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796437)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: cordovan nubile dilemma elastic band

pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete career. however you rank they are both tier 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796451)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: Green ladyboy

Hard to say but he’s up there for sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796401)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier

he's def most high iq though, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796407)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: Green ladyboy

Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal lives, or do you mean high IQ with respect to how he played?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796409)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:45 PM
Author: Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier

the latter obv

i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the mouth level dumb irl in his off time as long as hes throwing fucking gems over the mound

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796413)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: Green ladyboy

Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. No man is an island

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796417)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:47 PM
Author: Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier

cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bobby and mazzone to get fucked a bunch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796421)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 1:01 AM
Author: Racist Redneck from Alabama



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: disturbing lodge

he's appropriately rated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796444)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: Titillating hospital

lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher of all time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796446)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier

Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796448)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:04 PM
Author: overrated abode nowag



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: diverse chapel dingle berry

Pedro was better (than anyone).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796514)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: disturbing lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796561)



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:54 AM
Author: Lilac laser beams roast beef



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Station Wagecucks

He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys like Trout and Ohtani

If you swapped some random cy young candidate like Bryan Woo for Maddux, he would crush it in the 90s also

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796569)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: Floppy dark ratface preventive strike

Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49796577)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: Concupiscible Rigor Candlestick Maker

he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smarter than other players. perennial gold glove fielder. platonic ideal of "the professor" type who doesn't throw super hard but just outthinks the batter. also insanely low walk rate - nobody - absolutely nobody - had better control

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49797104)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: Mustard bawdyhouse sound barrier



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Date: April 6th, 2026 2:11 PM
Author: overrated abode nowag

He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorrectly for not having any velocity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49797984)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: Concupiscible Rigor Candlestick Maker

yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1960 in the hall of fame that threw softer is tom glavine. only reliever is trevor hoffman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49798932)



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:52 AM
Author: overrated abode nowag

Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently hit a 92 mph fastball with a year of dedicated training.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49799605)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:17 AM
Author: Yichudim



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:31 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


do not google.

there at 10 pitchers with WAR of 100 or greater. name them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49914284)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:36 AM
Author: Yichudim

Randy Johnson

Clemmons

Pedro

Ryan

Glavine

Babe Ruth

Scherzer

Seaver

cy Young

Maddux



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49914286)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:43 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


this career WAR. you got these right.

1. Cy Young+ (22) 165.9 7356.0 R

3. Roger Clemens (24) 138.7 4916.2 R

7. Tom Seaver+ (20) 106.0 4783.0 R

8. Greg Maddux+ (23) 104.8 5008.1 R

9. Randy Johnson+ (22) 103.5 4135.1 L



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49914287)



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:57 AM
Author: tokens in abundance
Subject: No Goog

Clayton Kershaw

Curt Schilling

Mariano Rivera

Bob Gibson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2)#49914292)