The violence consisted of the killing of tens of thousands of people, including 6,832 Roman Catholic priests, the vast majority in the wake of the rightist military coup in July 1936, the Spanish nobility, small business owners, industrialists, conservative politicians, and known or suspected supporters of the right-leaning parties or the anti-Stalinist Left, and the desecration and arson attacks against monasteries, convents, Catholic schools, and churches.[12]

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It may be hard to recall now, but there was a time when most Americans were decidedly more blasé about bombing attacks. This was during the 1970s, when protest bombings in America were commonplace, especially in hard-hit cities like New York, Chicago and San Francisco. Nearly a dozen radical underground groups, dimly remembered outfits such as the Weather Underground, the New World Liberation Front and the Symbionese Liberation Army, set off hundreds of bombs during that tumultuous decade—so many, in fact, that many people all but accepted them as a part of daily life. As one woman sniffed to a New York Post reporter after an attack by a Puerto Rican independence group in 1977: “Oh, another bombing? Who is it this time?’”

https://time.com/4501670/bombings-of-america-burrough/

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I despise these people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870072&forum_id=2)#49907674)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristero_War

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870072&forum_id=2)#49907661)

(fun fact: in HS, I was in a shitty garage band that never played anywhere apart from our garage, but we called ourselves The Whiskey Priests because the singer loved that book and "whiskey priest" is one of Greene's descriptions of his main protagonist)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870072&forum_id=2)#49907666)

lol no but thanks for asking

the singer was in another band in college and they put out an album that got a little attention and radio airplay but holy shit that was all a long time ago

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Communism in Latin America was just a class self-selection measure. The politics were the same as they always were prior imo.

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if i'm still pruning the 'alt right' we're going to go in some different directions and move away from the classical and Hitler as Hitler stuff and move it more towards what's worked best in modernity with some post-modern flavor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870072&forum_id=2)#49908790)

W Tito

You know Hitler said Franco was the most miserable meeting he ever took. Hitler asked him for troops and Franco said what's in it for me. Hitler said well I already promised every postwar spoil to Vichy France so... Franco told him to pound sand. Hitler was furious.

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Franco's Spain was an economic and cultural dead zone until he lost enough power for the technocrats to take over in time to capitalize on the emerging European markets boom of the 70s. Franco's legacy on the world stage was getting shat on in West Africa by the Moroccans and rolling over like a log in negotiations with the UN regarding Spain's dwindling foreign holdings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870072&forum_id=2)#49908404)

Maybe. Another way to say it would be a middle path between NW Europe-style open borders / cultural degeneracy and Eastern Bloc slavery. Spain got to remain Spain at least, for all of Franco’s life plus a decade or two. And Spain never had to take orders from Washington or Moscow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870072&forum_id=2)#49908481)

Basically the former is the lesser of evils. And if they actually Win and aren’t just petty tyrants ruling some banana republics, they aren’t evil at all. They’re Good. Hitler, if he massacred the Britons at Dunkirk and nuked Birmingham, would’ve been Good.

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Spain and Salazar's Portugal actually did take orders from Washington though. Spain and Portugal were both key partners in various NATO-nation influence operations, as well as training grounds for Paladin Group style disposable specialists/trainers/mercenaries for various anti-communist (read: pro UFC) coups and struggles throughout the third world. Hell, Portugal opened up the Azores to Kissinger to send material to Israel during the Yom Kippur war, during the Watergate scandal. And this was after the Soviets committed themselves to mass naval shipments to Egypt and Syria and AA destroyers (who saw combat, and shot down Israeli planes while credibly threatening American air freight) to the theater, and were openly threatening to escalate if the Americans continued to provide targeting/navigation and material aid to the Israelis.

You can say sure they didn't join NATO until much later but frankly it didn't really matter; it was a given from US strategic planners that if a war went down in Fulda or the Caucasus the Iberian peninsula would be open for NATO business. And in any case NATO membership probably would've given a pretext for the American right to help rebuild Spain's military forces. As I said above, they lost to Morocco over Ifni. It was a major coup for European prestige; the Spanish air force was too emaciated to even drop basic logistical aid at a couple of points. Spain's military was oriented around fighting the ETA/catalonian separatists/various leftists, it was a military for internal security, useless for actual combat. For a strongman type state his military was quite weak, and to this day Spain has never really rebuilt the prestige or strength that they had even in the Spanish Republic era.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870072&forum_id=2)#49908795)

The German class-collaborative National Socialism of von Bismarck's day was probably a peak for a certain type of human development and consciousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5870072&forum_id=2)#49908468)