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i think computers have made reality impossible to inhabit

i am not elaborating at this time
Adventurous maniacal stead ceo
  06/22/26
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Jet trailer park party of the first part
  06/25/26
Oh well
Pink new version
  06/22/26
i wrote an essay like 15 years ago about how the real world ...
Coral Contagious Business Firm
  06/22/26
that's true but my thesis is deeper and structural. It's not...
Adventurous maniacal stead ceo
  06/22/26
how so specifically
Coral Contagious Business Firm
  06/22/26
i am not elaborating at this time
Adventurous maniacal stead ceo
  06/22/26
Baudrillard associates each of those distortions of reality ...
Pink new version
  06/22/26
Baudrillard is a faggot
Adventurous maniacal stead ceo
  06/22/26
yeah so
Pink new version
  06/22/26
180000000
razzle useless stag film hunting ground
  06/22/26
he actually had some decent ideas tbqh imho
Coral Contagious Business Firm
  06/22/26
dudeweed
Adventurous maniacal stead ceo
  06/22/26
https://sites.evergreen.edu/politicalshakespeares/wp-content...
Onyx alcoholic lay
  06/22/26
ty, so this is where that faggot yarvin came up with "t...
Pink new version
  06/22/26
This op reminded of a different Borges story On Exactitud...
Cracking institution dopamine
  06/22/26
My own view is that Stage Five is active, but that not every...
Cream Forum
  06/22/26
doesn't sound like a very deep and structural thesis i ca...
Coral Contagious Business Firm
  06/22/26
There's not a necessary relationship between "outcompet...
Adventurous maniacal stead ceo
  06/22/26
the latter is a 'why' contributor to the former imho amon...
Coral Contagious Business Firm
  06/22/26
https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300078152/seeing-like-a-...
Onyx alcoholic lay
  06/22/26
hmmmm. maybe you should. it concerns me that so few others a...
Coral Contagious Business Firm
  06/22/26
Ok thank you for elaborating. Tankh,
Adventurous maniacal stead ceo
  06/22/26
living irl sometimes is actually fun and crrrr imho
sepia drunken death wish meetinghouse
  06/22/26
"see you there"
Adventurous maniacal stead ceo
  06/22/26
if I inhabited it
sepia drunken death wish meetinghouse
  06/22/26
...
Adventurous maniacal stead ceo
  06/22/26
...
Onyx alcoholic lay
  06/22/26
...
Jet trailer park party of the first part
  06/23/26
...
unholy point
  06/25/26
This is why I tell my wife when she nags me for my screen ti...
racy ruby hospital
  06/22/26
if "reality" didn't suck this would have never hap...
Peach excitant base
  06/22/26
...
Adventurous maniacal stead ceo
  06/22/26
he literally just repeated what i already wrote in the threa...
Coral Contagious Business Firm
  06/22/26
he's more concise i guess idk
Adventurous maniacal stead ceo
  06/22/26
I think it’s designed to suck for like 90% of people a...
insecure principal's office marketing idea
  06/23/26
I think it just inherently sucks. Any "design" is ...
Peach excitant base
  06/23/26
Thank you, Computer.
mind-boggling sanctuary
  06/22/26
...
Jet trailer park party of the first part
  06/22/26
...
Adventurous maniacal stead ceo
  06/22/26
...
racy ruby hospital
  06/22/26
...
sepia drunken death wish meetinghouse
  06/22/26
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Emerald Keepsake Machete
  06/22/26
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unholy point
  06/23/26


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Date: June 22nd, 2026 2:48 PM
Author: Adventurous maniacal stead ceo

i am not elaborating at this time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955656)



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Date: June 25th, 2026 1:48 PM
Author: Jet trailer park party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49962557)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 2:51 PM
Author: Pink new version

Oh well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955664)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:01 PM
Author: Coral Contagious Business Firm

i wrote an essay like 15 years ago about how the real world would increasingly be out-competed by Online matrix worlds as environments for humans to inhabit

i was completely right and i wish i could find that essay again. it's somewhere out there, Online

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955689)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:13 PM
Author: Adventurous maniacal stead ceo

that's true but my thesis is deeper and structural. It's not just that Online is better, it's that Online has fundamentally altered our ability to inhabit physical reality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955721)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:15 PM
Author: Coral Contagious Business Firm

how so specifically

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955724)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: Adventurous maniacal stead ceo

i am not elaborating at this time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955727)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:17 PM
Author: Pink new version

Baudrillard associates each of those distortions of reality with periods of increasing technical sophistication:

Stage one and two: Associated with the premodern period, it’s representation is an artificial placemarker for the real item. The uniqueness of objects and situations marks them as real and signification gropes towards this reality.

Stage three: Associated with the modernity of the Industrial Revolution where distinctions between representation and reality break down due to the proliferation of mass-reproducible copies of items, turning them into commodities. The commodity's ability to imitate reality threatens to replace the authority of the original version, because the copy is just as "real" as its prototype.

Stage four: Associated with the postmodernity of late capitalism where the simulacrum precedes the original and the distinction between reality and representation vanishes. There is only the simulation, and originality becomes a totally meaningless concept.

(Proposed stage five: The simulation reorders underlying reality to act in accordance with it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955728)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: Adventurous maniacal stead ceo

Baudrillard is a faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955730)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:19 PM
Author: Pink new version

yeah so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955731)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:39 PM
Author: razzle useless stag film hunting ground

180000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955898)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:40 PM
Author: Coral Contagious Business Firm

he actually had some decent ideas tbqh imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955900)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:41 PM
Author: Adventurous maniacal stead ceo

dudeweed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955906)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Onyx alcoholic lay

https://sites.evergreen.edu/politicalshakespeares/wp-content/uploads/sites/226/2015/12/Borges-Tl%C3%B6n-Uqbar-Orbius-Tertius.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955734)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:26 PM
Author: Pink new version

ty, so this is where that faggot yarvin came up with "tlon" as his programming language for urbit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955739)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: Cracking institution dopamine

This op reminded of a different Borges story

On Exactitude in Science

Jorge Luis Borges, Collected Fictions, translated by Andrew Hurley.

…In that Empire, the Art of Cartography attained such Perfection that the map of a single Province occupied the entirety of a City, and the map of the Empire, the entirety of a Province. In time, those Unconscionable Maps no longer satisfied, and the Cartographers Guilds struck a Map of the Empire whose size was that of the Empire, and which coincided point for point with it. The following Generations, who were not so fond of the Study of Cartography as their Forebears had been, saw that that vast Map was Useless, and not without some Pitilessness was it, that they delivered it up to the Inclemencies of Sun and Winters. In the Deserts of the West, still today, there are Tattered Ruins of that Map, inhabited by Animals and Beggars; in all the Land there is no other Relic of the Disciplines of Geography.

—Suarez Miranda,Viajes devarones prudentes, Libro IV,Cap. XLV, Lerida, 1658

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955963)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:02 PM
Author: Cream Forum

My own view is that Stage Five is active, but that not everyone operates within it. Feels like an 80/20 rule (or maybe 90/10) where the majority is basically programmed like a wind-up toy by The Internet and a subset still operate in the Real World. As much as technology dominates, there is still a "handshake" element to a lot of business and major deals.

This probably sounds super Boomer, but you may know what I mean.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955798)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:27 PM
Author: Coral Contagious Business Firm

doesn't sound like a very deep and structural thesis

i can think of a bunch of reasons off the top of my head though. but they can all be more or less boiled down to artificial online realities out-competing real-reality (the 'why's' are pretty important though)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955741)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:29 PM
Author: Adventurous maniacal stead ceo

There's not a necessary relationship between "outcompeting reality" and "fundamentally altering man's relationship with reality."

My thesis is therefore deeper and more structural than your weak, non-load-bearing one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955742)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:35 PM
Author: Coral Contagious Business Firm

the latter is a 'why' contributor to the former imho

among other things, The Matrix(es) becoming preferable to irl for humans has been a self-fulfilling prophecy in no small part due to the matrix warping the real world. it's a feedback loop that has been and is continuing to intensify

you can't improve irl in order to try to out-compete the matrix fair and square. irl will just be adjusted accordingly by the matrix in response. the feedback loop has to be destroyed, which means that the matrix itself has to be destroyed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955755)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:57 PM
Author: Onyx alcoholic lay

https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300078152/seeing-like-a-state/

I look forward to your 2028 magnum opus "Seeing Like A Computer"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955783)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:39 PM
Author: Coral Contagious Business Firm

hmmmm. maybe you should. it concerns me that so few others are able or willing to See as The Machine sees

just another abyss that people love to pontificate and joke about but won't actually look into

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955895)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:17 PM
Author: Adventurous maniacal stead ceo

Ok thank you for elaborating.

Tankh,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955841)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:15 PM
Author: sepia drunken death wish meetinghouse

living irl sometimes is actually fun and crrrr imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955725)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: Adventurous maniacal stead ceo

"see you there"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955729)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:19 PM
Author: sepia drunken death wish meetinghouse

if I inhabited it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955732)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Adventurous maniacal stead ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955735)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:33 PM
Author: Onyx alcoholic lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955752)



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Date: June 23rd, 2026 1:37 AM
Author: Jet trailer park party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49957397)



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Date: June 25th, 2026 9:24 PM
Author: unholy point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49963154)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:21 PM
Author: racy ruby hospital

This is why I tell my wife when she nags me for my screen time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955845)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:45 PM
Author: Peach excitant base

if "reality" didn't suck this would have never happened. that's what all these brands of societal complaints and fist-waving don't want to admit. we got here BECAUSE reality is dreadful and depressing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955918)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:46 PM
Author: Adventurous maniacal stead ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955926)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:47 PM
Author: Coral Contagious Business Firm

he literally just repeated what i already wrote in the thread and you blank bumped him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955936)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:49 PM
Author: Adventurous maniacal stead ceo

he's more concise i guess idk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955947)



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Date: June 23rd, 2026 10:59 AM
Author: insecure principal's office marketing idea

I think it’s designed to suck for like 90% of people and nobody cares. It’s just a thing that people implicitly want. Like every prole wants their town to win football championships or to at least not be mogged. So they support the Clique System. There’s a lane for Jocks, for Nerds, and so on. Jocks need to get laid in order to make the next generation able to win championships. This is more important than intact families or liberal arts. A Scumjock with multiple baby mamas is doing gods work. The midwestern rust belt towns that have collapsed did so because of an over-reliance on Scumbags. Society learned and adapted. Instead of kids Playing Outside while their dads Forge things out of Iron, they Play Inside or are driven to Practice or extracurricular activities which help them ace OCI. The country became less Scummy. This era was ushered in by grunge and NAFTA. The 32x was catastrophically mistimed bc it debuted after the Scum era had ended.

Before they get distracted by gay/race stuff libs realize this and are like, “uh, guys…” but then they get co-opted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49957874)



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Date: June 23rd, 2026 3:44 PM
Author: Peach excitant base

I think it just inherently sucks. Any "design" is not by way of human agency imo. We are just sad little puppets dancing in a ramshackle theater overseen by a Blind Idiot God (see Boomers, now THAT'S poetry)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49958494)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:46 PM
Author: mind-boggling sanctuary

Thank you, Computer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955930)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:49 PM
Author: Jet trailer park party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955948)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:49 PM
Author: Adventurous maniacal stead ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955950)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:50 PM
Author: racy ruby hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955952)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:53 PM
Author: sepia drunken death wish meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49955967)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 7:01 PM
Author: Emerald Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49956444)



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Date: June 23rd, 2026 1:37 AM
Author: unholy point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2)#49957396)