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How do you guys feel about 50-year mortgages?

https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/1987265400548053290?s=46
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  11/08/25
Not a fan. Think of how much lower monthly payments would...
samoth
  11/08/25
lol, it's real https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/p...
Paralegal Mohammad
  11/08/25
by that logic why not have infinity mortgages that get passe...
chadgpt-6
  11/08/25
Wow cr
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constantscreen the great
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Love it. It's how things used to work in the Mother Count...
samoth
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which is what makes time travel possible
  11/09/25
xo is really underestimating the gravity of what Trump is pr...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  11/09/25
assuming a 6.5% rate either way, going from a 30 year mortga...
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lol not flame. Assuming a $500k principal: 30 years: $3,1...
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So you're agreeing that monthly payments are lower, thus ena...
samoth
  11/08/25
This makes the optimistic assumption that the interest rate ...
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Who benefits?
Candy Ride
  11/09/25
And the rate won't be the same, either. Banks will demand a ...
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  11/08/25
seems good to me. you might have more dumb people buying th...
Kenneth Play
  11/08/25
this logic is easily applied to a 60 year mortgage too. you ...
Paralegal Mohammad
  11/08/25
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i gave my cousin head
  11/08/25
thanks for your charitable reading. i agree that it will pu...
Kenneth Play
  11/08/25
This country could be so nice it's insane what we have yet i...
i gave my cousin head
  11/08/25
GAY. Home prices will drop when illegals and visa are depor...
animeboi
  11/08/25
Anyone else have any bright ideas?
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  11/08/25
financial satanism.
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  11/08/25
This is confusing because Donny Dealmaker said that affordab...
Civil Attorney
  11/08/25
i prefer being someones unpaid slave, like a servant to a ki...
""''"'"'"'"''
  11/08/25
lmfao
Paralegal Mohammad
  11/08/25
Societies have successfully functioned that way far longer t...
samoth
  11/08/25
In Asia they still don't allow foreigners to own property, t...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  11/08/25
A federal law banning foreign ownership of American corporat...
Let the adversaries of my soul be consumed
  11/09/25
(Anthony Albanese)
Angry white woman tailgating you on an empty road
  11/08/25
GOP is fully jewish now
we are definitely claiming fraud trumpmos
  11/08/25
It's not about the 50 year mortgages, it's about the means b...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  11/08/25
Fannie Mae removes 620 minimum credit score requirement h...
Paralegal Mohammad
  11/08/25
I’m not really an economics guy but home values are in...
mountain cat
  11/08/25
Who cares if prices go up when the loan is for 50 years?
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  11/08/25
Won’t that defeat the purpose of the whole thing?
mountain cat
  11/08/25
The price would have to go up a lot to offset the ~50% lower...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  11/08/25
The problem with people like you is that you look too far in...
samoth
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WWED: What Would Emilio Do?
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prices continued rising when rates were rising too
WWED: What Would Emilio Do?
  11/09/25
This is outright dystopian.
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Seems like you're just asking for the same thing that happen...
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(economics masterman) Yes, banks will absolutely continue...
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^^^Guy who thinks banks hold these loans on their books and ...
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Many times banks do hold them, actually, but that's beside t...
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This is all stupid. You honestly think that the fed can ...
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I didn't realize I was arguing with an actual moron. Yes, of...
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Actual banks barely deal with residential mortgages anymore,...
Sue Johanson Talkin' Sex
  11/09/25
this isn't something that can be solved by tweaking the numb...
WWED: What Would Emilio Do?
  11/09/25
That's a problem, but there's also the problem that a signif...
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increasing the maximum loan length and decreasing interest b...
WWED: What Would Emilio Do?
  11/09/25
Yeah brother that's the entire point. The goal is to just su...
chad gundam
  11/09/25
Just saw on X that Hitler capped mortgage rates at 4%, banne...
AZNgirl Raping Taj Mahal because it's White
  11/09/25
Now do Gaddafi
Diane Rehm talking dirty
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whoaaa, jews wld HATE this Here is what the available inf...
AZNgirl Raping Taj Mahal because it's White
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contentman
  11/09/25
It was literally grift and bribe economy though.
There sat down, once, a thing on Henry's heart
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"If the American people ever allow private banks to con...
Covid was a Hoax
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potluck
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https://online.hbs.edu/blog/post/time-value-of-money
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wow thanks hbs! tell me more im thirsty for financial knowle...
Covid was a Hoax
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Settle down it's just a link
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
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do you have a youtube video about the time value of money?
Covid was a Hoax
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I feel like GC will just ensure that the monthly payments wi...
There sat down, once, a thing on Henry's heart
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if you pass a law that lets people spend even more money on ...
coiffed sandwich
  11/09/25
ghastly policy and Trump bragging that FDR created the 30...
Charlie Kirk Did Nothing Wrong
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He's just transparently throwing spaghetti at the wall tryin...
chad gundam
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what would you do in his shoes if you wanted to make purchas...
WWED: What Would Emilio Do?
  11/09/25
how abt doing somethign crazy like building 10 entire new fu...
AZNgirl Raping Taj Mahal because it's White
  11/09/25
>doing something like federal government assistance in de...
WWED: What Would Emilio Do?
  11/09/25
- actually, meaningfully, lower taxes for middle class while...
Paralegal Mohammad
  11/09/25
It's fascinating to me that a bort that generally leans cons...
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the federal government doesnt have much say in local nimby p...
WWED: What Would Emilio Do?
  11/09/25
Yes — the federal government absolutely can incentiviz...
Paralegal Mohammad
  11/09/25
Don't shit up the board with this gay chat GPT nonsense.
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"expert (like you)" lmfao oh boy opportunity zo...
WWED: What Would Emilio Do?
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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,..,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.


https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/1987265400548053290?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413026)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: samoth

Not a fan.

Think of how much lower monthly payments would be on a 70 year mortgage.

If someone would be brave enough to push terms out over 100 years, we could open up affordable housing for nearly every American!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413033)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!)

lol, it's real

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115515420947464459

another successful money grab for jews under a kike president, mazel tov to avi and moishe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413037)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:36 PM
Author: chadgpt-6

by that logic why not have infinity mortgages that get passed on to kin and if no kin or will, the state?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413041)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: .,.,,..,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.


Wow cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413043)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:41 PM
Author: theroyalserf



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413049)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:38 AM
Author: constantscreen the great



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413778)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:57 PM
Author: samoth

Love it.

It's how things used to work in the Mother Country. We should bring it back (along with a monarchy).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413086)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:02 PM
Author: which is what makes time travel possible



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414538)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:03 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


xo is really underestimating the gravity of what Trump is proposing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414541)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:43 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,..,..,.,:.,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,


assuming a 6.5% rate either way, going from a 30 year mortgage to a 50 year mortgage reduces monthly payments by only around 10%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413054)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:47 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,..,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.


lol not flame. Assuming a $500k principal:

30 years: $3,160 payment, $1,137,600 total paid

50 years: $2,855 payment, $1,713,00 total paid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413059)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:52 PM
Author: samoth

So you're agreeing that monthly payments are lower, thus enabling more people to be able to afford homes!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413072)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 9:37 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...


This makes the optimistic assumption that the interest rate on the two mortgages will be the same. In reality, the interest rate on 50-year mortgages will be higher. My guess is that the payments will be nearly the same once you take that into account. I'm struggling to think of a situation where this type of loan makes sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413446)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:33 PM
Author: Candy Ride

Who benefits?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414761)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 6:26 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...


And the rate won't be the same, either. Banks will demand a higher rate because they are taking the risk of keeping their money locked up for longer. I'm not sure how this makes sense even if Fannie and Freddie will buy these loans now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413139)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: Kenneth Play

seems good to me. you might have more dumb people buying things they shouldn't. but if you're a poor person with a family you are maybe able to get a level of stability that you didn't have before. and if the fed is gonna run things hotter than 2% inflation maybe it ends up being good to be a mortgage holder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413055)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:53 PM
Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!)

this logic is easily applied to a 60 year mortgage too. you dumb goyim have zero spine.

this puts upward pressure on prices and benefits existing asset holders, and it steepens the amortization curve to benefit the banks. it does nothing to solve the actual problem with the housing market, which is low supply, it just benefits trump's boomer and jew base at the expense of everyone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413076)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:53 PM
Author: i gave my cousin head



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413079)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 7:41 PM
Author: Kenneth Play

thanks for your charitable reading. i agree that it will push up real estate prices. but i think it can still be good to provide credit to people who may not otherwise have access to it. the only real solution to housing long term is increasing supply, and cutting regulations and red tape that interfere with same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413266)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:45 PM
Author: i gave my cousin head

This country could be so nice it's insane what we have yet it's all as horrible as it could be and getting worse by the minute

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413056)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:45 PM
Author: animeboi (.)

GAY. Home prices will drop when illegals and visa are deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413057)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:59 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,


Anyone else have any bright ideas?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413091)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 6:00 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


financial satanism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413092)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 6:02 PM
Author: Civil Attorney

This is confusing because Donny Dealmaker said that affordability wasn’t actually an issue and the prices of everything are down.

So why do we need this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413093)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 6:04 PM
Author: ""''"'"'"'"''

i prefer being someones unpaid slave, like a servant to a king as long as king gives me a nice cottage on his land and health care. I think that would be a great idea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413096)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!)

lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413099)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 6:17 PM
Author: samoth

Societies have successfully functioned that way far longer than we've had mortgages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413123)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 9:22 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


In Asia they still don't allow foreigners to own property, they can only get leases. Crazy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413431)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:56 PM
Author: Let the adversaries of my soul be consumed

A federal law banning foreign ownership of American corporations, land and real estate would be the most Pareto optimal thing that can be done and actually make it treason and punishable by death if caught

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414693)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 6:17 PM
Author: Angry white woman tailgating you on an empty road

(Anthony Albanese)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413126)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 8:44 PM
Author: we are definitely claiming fraud trumpmos (oppose israel bois)

GOP is fully jewish now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413379)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


It's not about the 50 year mortgages, it's about the means by which they will be effected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413388)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 8:53 PM
Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!)

Fannie Mae removes 620 minimum credit score requirement

https://www.housingwire.com/articles/fannie-mae-credit-score-update/

Lol, another Jewish gimme

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413394)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 9:05 PM
Author: mountain cat

I’m not really an economics guy but home values are inflated by the amount people are able to borrow to buy them. Lenders look at cash flow to determine how much monthly payment borrowers can afford.

If we are lowering monthly payments by extending the term of the loans, won’t home prices just go up because borrowers can just borrow more money at the same monthly payment?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413406)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 9:11 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Who cares if prices go up when the loan is for 50 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413414)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 9:13 PM
Author: mountain cat

Won’t that defeat the purpose of the whole thing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413421)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


The price would have to go up a lot to offset the ~50% lower monthly payments. This also implies that any home you buy will accrue equity while you own it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413422)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 9:43 PM
Author: samoth

The problem with people like you is that you look too far into the "future" and consider "ramifications" of your actions.

You'll never succeed in public office with this mindset, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413451)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 11:18 PM
Author: .,.,,..,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413558)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 11:19 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413560)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:36 AM
Author: WordcelWorth



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: AZNgirl Raping Taj Mahal because it's White



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414463)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:30 PM
Author: WWED: What Would Emilio Do? (gunneratttt)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414751)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: WWED: What Would Emilio Do? (gunneratttt)

prices continued rising when rates were rising too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414754)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 11:16 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


This is outright dystopian.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49413552)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 1:40 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


Seems like you're just asking for the same thing that happened when they gave everyone free unlimited loans for grad degrees - prices skyrocketed.

I think the 2 fixes to the housing market would be:

1. Require all lenders including securitizations to allow people to transfer their loan terms. So if you have a $500,000 loan at 3% and go to buy a $1 mm house, you can still use that $500,000 loan at 3% as long as you pay the fees to subsitute the new property into the mortgage.

2. Just lower fucking mortgage loans to 5.0%. The government has their hands enough already in this market not sure why they can't just dictate that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414389)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...


(economics masterman)

Yes, banks will absolutely continue to lend money at 5% to homeowners who might default when they could just buy 30-year Treasuries and get the same return risk-free. If you fix mortgage rates to 5%, the entire housing market will freeze up because banks will never lend money again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414452)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


^^^Guy who thinks banks hold these loans on their books and doesn't raelize they're already quasi guaranteed by the government anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414459)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...


Many times banks do hold them, actually, but that's beside the point. Nobody is going to buy mortgage-backed securities from Fannie or Freddie if they can get the same return risk-free by buying 30-year Treasuries.

And I haven't even gotten into the other reasons this idea is absolutely idiotic. If you let anyone borrow unlimited amounts of money at 5% to buy real estate, you will have every investor in the country buying second homes and rental properties. And if they aren't earning money on these investments, they know that they can just walk away and let the taxpayers bail them out. If you want to make the housing crisis about 100 times worse than it is already, then let the government fix mortgage rates at 5%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414622)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:28 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


This is all stupid.

You honestly think that the fed can meet and just pronounce that mortgage rates are going up or down a quarter point, but they couldn't find a mechanism to hold mortgage rates at 5%?

And obviously you wouldn't give the preferential rate for second properties. Not sure if you follow the news, but we already have a system in place for people to access cheap, government guaranteed mortgages so long as they're not second homes or rental properties...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414745)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:46 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...


I didn't realize I was arguing with an actual moron. Yes, of course the government could fix mortgage rates at 5%. The government could also spend $500 billion dollars to build a 50-story solid gold replica of Trump's cock. Just because the government can do something doesn't mean it should.

I shouldn't bother to respond to an actual idiot, but even mortgages owned by Fannie and Freddie are not formally guaranteed by the government. There is an understanding that the government will bail them out if shit really hits the fan (and the government did during ITE), and that keeps mortgage rates lower. But there is still some risk associated with these mortgages. If you make mortgage rates lower than the long-term Treasury rate, nobody is going to issue a mortgage, because you would have to accept greater risk for a lower return. That's precisely why mortgage rates tend to track long-term Treasury rates. This is all Econ 101 stuff. Maybe go read an economics textbook before pushing moronic ideas on xoxo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49415000)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Sue Johanson Talkin' Sex

Actual banks barely deal with residential mortgages anymore, most of them exited that business or heavily reduced it in the 2010s. It's mostly shitty shadow bank mortgage companies doing the lending now.

There's always some shitty hook nose to fill the gap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414467)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:34 PM
Author: WWED: What Would Emilio Do? (gunneratttt)

this isn't something that can be solved by tweaking the numbers. we need to make developing property more affordable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414765)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:36 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


That's a problem, but there's also the problem that a significant amount of people are now in houses with sub 3.0% mortgages and those houses have not, and will not, turn over at a normal rate when interest rates are at 6%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414769)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:51 PM
Author: WWED: What Would Emilio Do? (gunneratttt)

increasing the maximum loan length and decreasing interest both function to make borrowing more affordable on a monthly basis and would only serve to increase prices.

https://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/existing-home-sales

existing homes are being sold at a rate in line with the historic average. housing sales increased during covid because people had more flexibility where they could work, wanted to leave cities that weren't offering the things people move to cities for, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414796)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:35 PM
Author: chad gundam (🧐)

Yeah brother that's the entire point. The goal is to just subsidize demand so money printer can spin for extra couple years. Thats it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414767)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: AZNgirl Raping Taj Mahal because it's White

Just saw on X that Hitler capped mortgage rates at 4%, banned foreigners from buying and forgave 25% of a mortgage for each child born and the lower interest rate was contingent on the bitch wife not working

And they tell us Hitler was a "bad" man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414461)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: Diane Rehm talking dirty (🐿️ )

Now do Gaddafi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414474)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:56 PM
Author: AZNgirl Raping Taj Mahal because it's White

whoaaa, jews wld HATE this

Here is what the available information indicates about Gaddafi's housing finance policies:

## **Key Mortgage/Housing Policies Under Gaddafi**

| Policy | Description | Source |

|--------|-------------|--------|

| **Interest-Free Loans** | State-owned banks provided loans to citizens at **0% interest**, particularly to married couples. These were not conventional mortgages but direct government lending. | , , |

| **State-Owned Banking** | All banks were state-owned, eliminating private sector mortgage lending. Housing finance was a government function, not a market mechanism. | , |

| **Construction Support Laws** | **Law No. 2 of 1981** aimed to support construction, reconstruction, and encourage real estate investment. **Law No. 116 of 1972** provided residential subsidies. | |

| **Rent Controls & Price Fixing** | Compulsory rent reductions of **30-40%** were mandated, along with statutory price controls on housing. | |

| **Property Ownership Restrictions** | **Law 4/1978** limited individuals to **one house** only; additional properties were confiscated. This prevented speculative real estate investment and private rental markets. | |

## **How the System Worked**

Instead of a Western-style mortgage market, Gaddafi's Libya used:

1. **Direct state provision**: Government allocated housing units, often through employers or revolutionary committees

2. **Zero-interest loans**: For those who qualified (especially newlyweds), loans were interest-free but came with strict eligibility criteria

3. **No private lending**: No commercial banks or mortgage companies existed to offer market-rate home loans

4. **Construction subsidies**: The state directly funded housing construction, bypassing private developers

## **Limitations & Context**

**Post-Gaddafi housing crisis**: The 2025 CAHF report notes that Libya currently has a **"malfunctioning housing market"** with **"no access to long-term mortgage loans"** and a **"chronic housing shortage"** . This suggests Gaddafi's statist model **did not create sustainable housing finance institutions** that survived his regime.

**Bottom line**: Gaddafi eliminated interest and private property speculation, but the system relied entirely on state control rather than building a functional mortgage market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414529)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:41 PM
Author: contentman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414670)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: There sat down, once, a thing on Henry's heart

It was literally grift and bribe economy though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414705)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Covid was a Hoax

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered."

-tj

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414481)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:17 PM
Author: potluck

https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/private-banks-spurious-quotation/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414577)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:20 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


https://online.hbs.edu/blog/post/time-value-of-money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414605)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:39 PM
Author: Covid was a Hoax

wow thanks hbs! tell me more im thirsty for financial knowledge!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414662)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:57 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Settle down it's just a link

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414694)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Covid was a Hoax

do you have a youtube video about the time value of money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49415378)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:01 PM
Author: There sat down, once, a thing on Henry's heart

I feel like GC will just ensure that the monthly payments will be roughly the same regardless of 30 or 50.

We are past the point of rational pricing in society on things like that. GC’s goal is to strip-mine as much extra cash as a household gets so households don’t get ahead ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414703)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:32 PM
Author: coiffed sandwich

if you pass a law that lets people spend even more money on an asset, i bet the price of that asset will go down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414756)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:33 PM
Author: Charlie Kirk Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

ghastly policy

and Trump bragging that FDR created the 30yr mortgage is lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414759)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:39 PM
Author: chad gundam (🧐)

He's just transparently throwing spaghetti at the wall trying to subsidize demand in any way possible to keep making stock number go up. Maybe I'll use my tarriffstimbux to pay 10% of the realtor fee on my 50 year mortgage American Dream

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414776)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: WWED: What Would Emilio Do? (gunneratttt)

what would you do in his shoes if you wanted to make purchasing a house more achievable for ordinary americans? doing something like federal government assistance in developing property might not be feasible.

i'm not saying that this is a good policy. but i'm not as cynical about his motivations. although i'm sure stimulating the economy regardless of the long-term consequences factors in too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414807)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: AZNgirl Raping Taj Mahal because it's White

how abt doing somethign crazy like building 10 entire new furking cities using federal land so there's free land for jew developers to build shit and then u have tax rebates and subsidies and stuff and u build subways and trains and shit connecting shit and then if tehy dont get immmediately occupied u call them GHOST CITIES and make documentaries on youtube how this is so stupid but then a year later they all get full of ppl and u dont have a housing crisis?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414832)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: WWED: What Would Emilio Do? (gunneratttt)

>doing something like federal government assistance in developing property might not be feasible

the government is currently shut down because of deadlock on the budget. trump can't just wave a magic wand and start funding massive development projects.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49414837)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!)

- actually, meaningfully, lower taxes for middle class while taxing his wealthy friends

- eliminate tariffs and other price controls on building materials

- forgive student debt or eliminate interest on student debt

- job creation incentives including more grants, tech cities

Just the tip of the iceberg. Such a cuck response



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49415345)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:50 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...


It's fascinating to me that a bort that generally leans conservative wants the government to get even more heavily involved in free markets once housing prices get high. I never thought I would see the day when Mamdani and xoxo are pushing the same dumb ideas. Why not try to eliminate zoning rules and fight NIMBYism to get more housing built? While you're at it, why don't you get rid of tariffs on imported building materials and make it easier to hire immigrants who are willing to build houses for cheap? But why trust free markets when you can just give people government handouts instead?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49415014)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:07 PM
Author: WWED: What Would Emilio Do? (gunneratttt)

the federal government doesnt have much say in local nimby polices

lol @ this "conservative" pumo arguing for more illegal labor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49415051)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:13 PM
Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!)

Yes — the federal government absolutely can incentivize states (and/or localities) to reduce zoning-barriers and create more housing. It cannot override all local zoning unilaterally (due to the Tenth Amendment, local zoning powers, political backlash, etc.), but by deploying funding, conditions, model codes, technical assistance, and performance‐based incentives it can strongly encourage reform. Below are why it can work, how it’s been done/opportunity areas, and some concrete ideas that a law‐firm/expert (like you) might use when advising clients (developers, municipalities, etc.).

Why it’s feasible

Here are some of the levers the federal government already has (or could expand) to influence zoning/housing outcomes:

The federal government funds states and localities for housing, infrastructure, transportation, etc. Those funding flows create leverage: if a locality wants those funds, the feds can attach conditions (or rewards) tied to housing/zoning reform. For example, a competitive grant program for zoning reform.

Habitat for Humanity

+3

Birchwood

+3

American Planning Association

+3

The feds can produce model codes, best practices, toolkits and encourage adoption. Having a “model zoning code” or streamlined permitting approach is a lower‐barrier technical tool.

Economic Innovation Group

+1

The feds can require reporting, evaluation, measurement of outcomes (units built, time to permit, etc.), enabling “pay for performance” style incentives. For instance, in one proposal the feds would pay localities for each housing unit built per acre.

Economic Innovation Group

The role of states: As described in a state/local context, states shape the housing strategy by enabling or pre-empting local zoning, providing support/funding, and mandating planning.

Local Housing Solutions

There’s precedent: The federal government recently created an $85 million competitive grant for local governments to help with zoning reform.

American Planning Association

+1

So: while the feds cannot (practically) order every municipality to abolish zoning, they can shift the economics and incentives such that states/localities choose to reform.

How it has been done / ongoing efforts

Here are some existing or emerging federal incentive mechanisms:

The “Yes in My Backyard” (YIMBY) style grant program: According to a legal blog, the omnibus spending bill created a “Yes In My Backyard” competitive grant program to support zoning reforms (multi‐family, affordable housing) for local governments.

Birchwood

The $85 million competitive grant program for zoning reform: recent articles note that the feds made available ~$85 million for local governments to implement zoning/land-use changes to remove barriers.

American Planning Association

+1

Proposals for “Right-to-Build Zones”: In one think‐tank piece, a design is laid out where localities adopt model zoning codes and in exchange they receive federal “New Home Dividend” payments based on units built per acre.

Economic Innovation Group

Technical assistance and streamlining: The feds encouraging by‐right development, removing or reducing parking minimums, reducing lot sizes or setbacks, streamlining approvals. These types of regulatory incentives are referenced in state/local reform literature.

NAHB

+1

Some concrete ideas: How the federal government could structure incentives

Here are specific ideas that the feds (or that your law/consulting practice could structure for clients) to incentivize states/localities to eliminate or loosen zoning for more housing. These are built around three broad categories: financial incentives, regulatory/technical assistance, outcome-based rewards. You could tailor them for a state, regional council, or local government.

Financial incentives

Competitive Grants: The feds set up a large pool of funds (e.g., HUD, DOT, USDA) with the condition that to apply a state or locality must commit to specific zoning reforms (e.g., allow duplex/triplex by right on single-family lots, eliminate minimum parking, allow accessory dwelling units). The grant funds can be used for infrastructure, offset permitting costs, relocation of existing uses, etc.

Block Grants with Conditions: Existing federal housing/infrastructure block grants (e.g., HOME Investment Partnerships Program) could include a bonus allocation if the state meets certain zoning reform benchmarks. For example: if within 3 years the state shows that X% of its municipalities adopted code changes allowing “missing middle” housing, then extra funds unlock. (HOME is already used for affordable housing, and the feds could layer zoning reform metrics on top.)

Wikipedia

+1

Tax Credit/Loan Incentives: The federal government could partner with state housing finance agencies to create tax credits or low-interest loans for developers building in municipalities that have eased zoning constraints. These financial incentives would be conditional on the locality’s zoning reform status.

Infrastructure or Transit Funding Tied to Housing/Zoning Reform: Federal infrastructure (e.g., transportation, utilities) funding could be prioritized for jurisdictions that commit to housing zoning reform (higher density near transit, faster permitting). For example, pulling from an article on federal housing via transportation funding.

Urban Institute

Regulatory / Technical Assistance

Model Zoning Codes / “Right‐to‐Build” Overlay Zones: The feds develop (or certify) a model zoning/land-use code that dramatically lowers barriers (allow by-right duplexes/triplexes, minimal parking, low setbacks, expedite approvals). States/localities that adopt the model (or adopt within X% of it) qualify for technical assistance and funding. (See the “Right-to-Build Zones” proposal.)

Economic Innovation Group

Permitting/Approval Speed Targets: The feds provide grants or rewards if the state/local jurisdiction can show that average permitting time for housing was reduced by X% (say 30%) over Y years, particularly in newly zoned areas. The feds can provide training, software, regulatory review, and funding support to implement streamlined processes.

Data / Monitoring / Reporting Support: The feds can fund state/local governments to upgrade their tracking of housing production, zoning reform metrics, permitting times – in return for more transparent data that enables outcome-based funding. (This also creates accountability.)

Outcome-based rewards

Unit‐production Dividends: A reward payment to localities per housing unit (or per “net new” housing units) built in jurisdictions that met certain zoning standards. For example: “For every additional 10 units of multifamily housing built within a jurisdiction that has adopted by-right zoning for up to 4 units on every lot, the locality receives $X.” This aligns incentives: more production = more reward. (As in the “New Home Dividends” concept.)

Economic Innovation Group

Bonus Funding for High‐Density Corridors: If a state/locality identifies priority corridors (e.g., near transit) and relaxes zoning there (allow 6-9 stories, mixed use, minimal parking), then the feds provide a bonus or multiplier for units built in those corridors (e.g., 1.5x the reward dollars for those units).

Sanctions or Reduced Funding if No Reform: Though less popular politically, the feds could reduce or withhold certain discretionary grant opportunities or give lower priority to jurisdictions that fail to undertake any zoning reform after a given time. (This is a carrot-and sometimes stick approach.)

Hybrid Strategy: Example “Incentive Package”

Here’s how a packaged incentive might look:

The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) offers a “Housing Zoning Innovation Fund” of $500 million over 5 years.

To participate, a state must certify that it will adopt or direct its municipalities to adopt by-right zoning for up to 4 units on single-family lots, eliminate minimum parking requirements for new multifamily within ½-mile of transit, and reduce average permitting time by 25% in targeted zones.

Once certified, municipalities receive technical assistance + up to $50 million in infrastructure/permit-automation funds.

In addition, the state/localities earn “production payments” of $20,000 for each new housing unit built in eligible zones above the baseline.

The program would include annual monitoring: permitting time, unit counts, lot sizes, parking mandates removed, etc.

After year 3, if a participating jurisdiction fails to meet minimum benchmarks (e.g., <10% growth in units in eligible zones), their bonus payments drop or they’re removed from the program.

Tailored considerations for your context (law-firm / growth / advisory)

Given your background (JD + CFP, building a practice, interested in both legal/regulatory work and helping with housing/development processes) here are ways you could incorporate this into your advisory offering:

For municipal clients / local governments: You could advise on how to position themselves to capture federal funds tied to zoning reform. That means guiding them on revising their zoning code, doing the required certification/monitoring, applying for grants, and designing implementation plans. Because many local governments lack capacity, your value would be high.

For developer clients: You can help identify jurisdictions that have committed to zoning reform, and then structure deals that leverage federal/state bonus payments or tax credits that come from those reforms. Knowing “which localities are eligible” becomes a point of competitive advantage.

For state/regional advisory: You could help draft or review model code/adoption packages that qualify jurisdictions for federal incentives. You could help state housing agencies design their application processes, monitor outcomes, verify compliance, etc.

Framing your content/marketing: Since your ideal client might include municipalities or developers striving to “do more housing, faster,” you can highlight how federal incentives lower the cost/risk of code reform or project approval. You can position your firm as “we help you tap the federal zoning reform era”.

Link to your advisory growth plan: As you build your practice, this opens a niche — regulatory/land-use incentives + housing production. It’s adjacent to estate/planning but different — possibly a second arm of your firm (land-use advisory) which could cross-refer with your wealth clients who may own land or want to invest in housing.

Some caveats & risks

Politics: Zoning is highly political. Even if the feds provide incentives, local resistance (NIMBYism) may slow or block reforms.

Implementation burden: Monitoring, compliance, data gathering, bureaucratic requirements might discourage smaller jurisdictions.

Equity risk: Simply increasing unit counts may lead to gentrification or displacement if not paired with affordability protections.

Timing: Permitting, construction timelines are long—reward structures must account for lag.

Legal boundaries: Local land-use powers are strong; the feds must rely on incentive/conditional funding rather than heavy mandates (unless the state preempts local control).

If you like, I can pull together a draft “Federal Zoning Incentive Blueprint” — a two‐page summary your clients (municipal or developer) could use, plus a checklist of states/localities already adopting such reforms (so you have leads). Would you like me to do that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49415356)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:33 PM
Author: Madison Avenue Lemming Enslaved to Conformity

Don't shit up the board with this gay chat GPT nonsense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49415415)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:43 PM
Author: WWED: What Would Emilio Do? (gunneratttt)

"expert (like you)"

lmfao oh boy opportunity zones!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49415431)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: .,.,,...,...,..,....,...,...,...


I'm a free market conservative, not a MAGA white nationalist. My ideal immigration policy is close to open borders, because I don't think the government should be able to tell businesses who they are allowed to hire.

But that's beside the point. The only reason this labor is "illegal" is because of federal government polices. Create a visa for short-term unskilled labor. Exempt these visa holders from the minimum wage and other workforce protections to make sure that they are literally only taking jobs that Americans don't want. Create a database to make sure that they don't overstay their visas. A high percentage of undocumented immigrants in the U.S. would prefer to just do temporary work, send money back to their families, and then leave when their visa expires. But they can't do that, because we don't have a visa for short-term unskilled labor. If you want to build houses or pick crops, you have to either abuse a tourist visa or sneak in illegally. It's asinine. Even if you are opposed to increasing levels of immigration, allowing short-term unskilled foreign work is a net benefit for everyone involved.

And the federal government could easily pass legislation to make some kind of federal funding contingent on eliminating NIMBY policies. I would have to think about what form this legislation would take, but it could be done. And there is nothing to stop states or local governments from combating nimbyism if the feds won't do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795050&forum_id=2)#49415521)