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Any bros here do "debate" in HS/college? Help me train for my bait Twitch stream
| oomox | 04/23/26 |
| oomox | 04/23/26 |
| Junko Enoshima | 04/23/26 |
| oomox | 04/23/26 |
| Junko Enoshima | 04/23/26 |
| oomox | 04/23/26 |
| oomox | 04/23/26 |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 6:06 PM Author: oomox As described elsewhere: I'm going to try a bait Twitch stream model. The concept is "debate me about anything" and the challenger gets to choose my position. I'll have a disclaimer on the screen that explains that this is an intellectual exercise and lists the assigned position and opponent, so I can't get clipped and canceled. There are fun ways I could incorporate channel points and eventually donations. I'll also post each debate on YouTube; maybe I could promise to respond to any paid comment. The idea is to capitalize on people's argumentative instincts.
While I am experienced in written argumentation, I don't have practice debating people real-time. So far I'm planning on training by extemporaneously defending chatbot-assigned positions aloud, recording and evaluating my argument afterward. But I also think it might be good to do some training modeled after what kids learn in "debate" or "mock trial" in case I end up debating those people.
Advice is of course welcome from everyone, not just debatebros. Also, if anyone has ideas for format of the stream, I don't have that set in stone yet.
I've been kicking this idea around for a while and want to try a stream or two while I'm funemployed. I figure the potential payoff of social media success makes it worth a try. |
Date: April 23rd, 2026 6:48 PM Author: oomox (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2)#49838360) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:07 PM Author: Junko Enoshima The good news is that collegiate debate is a highly specialized activity now and if your opponent tries to use those tactics and strategies he'll look like a spaz to most viewers. I would advise researching topical political issues you think you might be asked to debate, and write down a few key quotes or stats you can trot out to make a point. Former debaters will insist on you providing evidence (N.B.: some guy's opinion counts as "evidence" for them). And if you don't address one of their arguments they'll think that means you've conceded the point, so always try to answer every point they raise. You can even refute multiple points at once with the same argument to save time. Debaters like to talk fast, so maybe listen to some actual college policy debates on YouTube and try to understand as much as you can, though if they try debating you at full speed they'll look ridiculous, so don't worry too much about this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2)#49838392) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:19 PM Author: oomox Very helpful, tyvm. Great idea to look at stats in advance. I will do that and also come up with ways to poke holes in each and then a way to defend against those args. And it's v useful to know that opinions are citable lol. I guess if nothing else it shows you've done research on the topic.
Anything you think people will ask about?
I am committed to ideological flexibility for this exercise but I have strong opinions about some things. If I'm asked to defend something I disagree with, my plan is to distill it down to what I think the central assumption is, which may end up serving as a reductio argument against my assigned stance. I think that's the best-faith way I can do it. |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:30 PM Author: Junko Enoshima Climate change, colonialism, national and global security, capitalism, and queer, race, and disability topics are the big stock issues. I can guarantee you Israel/Palestine will come up. I think your approach to defending positions you strongly disagree with is fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2)#49838436) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:37 PM Author: oomox Tyvm I will practice with those topics.
Israel is one of the things I've thought about – if I were asked to defend Zionism in any form, I would say, "My argument comes down to the presumptions that Jews are ethnically superior and it's OK to kill people if you're ethnically superior to them." Any pro-Israel stance can be reduced to that, whether it's genocide apologism or defending Israel's right to exist as an ethnostate. |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 8:52 PM Author: oomox So far here's what I'm thinking for the format.
A viewer comes up with a one-sentence thesis for me to defend. I'm allowed to ask questions and refine it with them, and when we finalize the position, I put it on screen. Then, the viewer makes their case first, arguing against the thesis they assigned me.
To start, I think it's OK to just have the opponent argue in chat (rather than calling in). I'll have their messages isolated in one area of the screen and will address them directly but I'll also pay attention to the rest of chat. |