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Book rec for boys ?

any books you read or wish you had read in high school? look...
bateful ocher site
  12/18/25
I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderso...
Odious submissive karate brunch
  12/18/25
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712? Reasonable price, ...
Stimulating Therapy
  12/18/25
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Big lay
  12/18/25
"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys...
fantasy-prone jew
  12/19/25
this is now forever in my search history I want you dead,...
fantasy-prone jew
  12/19/25
mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel
trip federal base gaping
  12/18/25
A few offhand: -On the Shortness of Life - Seneca -Sta...
Alcoholic avocado ladyboy psychic
  12/18/25
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&a...
fantasy-prone jew
  12/19/25
or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of...
Umber Depressive
  12/19/25
The Illustrated Man Odyssey The International Jew 1984 M...
Outnumbered Trust Fund
  12/18/25
Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters
Vigorous Forum Headpube
  12/18/25
i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer readin...
bateful ocher site
  12/18/25
Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Ce...
Vigorous Forum Headpube
  12/18/25
they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your...
bateful ocher site
  12/18/25
180
Vigorous Forum Headpube
  12/18/25
The eyes and the impossible sourdough heart of samurai...
lilac startling faggot firefighter
  12/18/25
rocket boys is 180
irradiated mother nowag
  12/18/25
Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo
lilac startling faggot firefighter
  12/18/25
...
irradiated mother nowag
  12/19/25
weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party...
Umber Depressive
  12/22/25
CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" thos...
Aphrodisiac insanely creepy fortuitous meteor
  12/18/25
he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that&rsq...
bateful ocher site
  12/18/25
The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)
sadistic bipolar chapel
  12/18/25
ty for the recs, this is helpful i just asked him what bo...
bateful ocher site
  12/18/25
Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has rea...
Hateful 180 toilet seat ratface
  12/18/25
seconding count of monte cristo three musketeers is also ...
navy glittery school
  12/18/25
JackTales 🤡😳
cerise floppy police squad
  12/18/25
those are for reading out loud , clown
lilac startling faggot firefighter
  12/18/25
The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton https://www.amazon...
Jet-lagged Glassy Crotch
  12/18/25
Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz) We Were Soldiers Once… And...
Out-of-control racy son of senegal
  12/18/25
are you seriously recommending a book on manhood written by ...
Heady mediation
  12/18/25
I’m not even sure which author you’re talking ab...
Out-of-control racy son of senegal
  12/18/25
lol
Heady mediation
  12/18/25
he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers &qu...
motley violent temple
  12/21/25
Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000
irradiated mother nowag
  12/18/25
No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a bet...
Out-of-control racy son of senegal
  12/18/25
James Bond novels Conan (only read the flemming and howard...
exciting hall corn cake
  12/18/25
The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.
Alcoholic avocado ladyboy psychic
  12/18/25
Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 ...
exciting hall corn cake
  12/18/25
Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new boo...
Alcoholic avocado ladyboy psychic
  12/18/25
1. Goldfinger 2. Moonraker 3. Casino Royale 4. From Russ...
exciting hall corn cake
  12/19/25
tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I th...
Alcoholic avocado ladyboy psychic
  12/21/25
cr
irradiated mother nowag
  12/18/25
Anabasis
yapping tank
  12/18/25
...
Heady mediation
  12/18/25
Flowers for Algernon
Balding Marvelous Travel Guidebook
  12/18/25
The Lessons of History - Will & Ariel Durant Man's Sear...
Heady mediation
  12/18/25
a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it...
Hairless genital piercing athletic conference
  12/18/25
Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in ...
stirring useless lodge azn
  12/18/25
Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?) Zen and the Art of Motorc...
nubile peach bawdyhouse regret
  12/18/25
> Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance lol
Heady mediation
  12/18/25
read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class i...
bateful ocher site
  12/18/25
zorba the greek
irradiated mother nowag
  12/18/25
...
Out-of-control racy son of senegal
  12/18/25
Several good recs already upthread. Some others: The Thin...
Aphrodisiac insanely creepy fortuitous meteor
  12/18/25
Cr. list I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit ov...
Out-of-control racy son of senegal
  12/18/25
The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorit...
azure gas station
  12/18/25
...
Aphrodisiac insanely creepy fortuitous meteor
  12/18/25
agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise cau...
motley violent temple
  12/22/25
Watership Down A Day No Pigs Would Die 2nd Where the R...
Pungent lascivious scourge upon the earth
  12/18/25
...
Appetizing Twinkling Uncleanness
  12/18/25
Starship Troopers Enders Game Johnny Tremain Childhoods E...
sienna generalized bond
  12/18/25
A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES
fantasy-prone jew
  12/19/25
Neon Bible better rec for younger kid
yapping tank
  12/19/25
abridged edgar allen poe short stories
thriller mildly autistic chad
  12/19/25
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  12/26/25


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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: bateful ocher site

any books you read or wish you had read in high school? looking for something that would be motivating / tools for life genre

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519424)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: Odious submissive karate brunch

I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderson (Broken Sword, Three Hearts and Three Lions) Fritz Lieber (Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser) etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519444)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: Stimulating Therapy

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712?

Reasonable price, free shipping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519452)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: Big lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519458)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:35 AM
Author: fantasy-prone jew

"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys and crayons, a bubble bath, and lots of love."

-- School Library Journal

"Will undoubtedly be scooped up by families seeking queer representation in board books."

-- Kirkus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49521596)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:42 AM
Author: fantasy-prone jew

this is now forever in my search history

I want you dead, Malk Poo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49521719)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: trip federal base gaping

mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519459)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: Alcoholic avocado ladyboy psychic

A few offhand:

-On the Shortness of Life - Seneca

-Starship Troopers (the book is much better and more serious than the movie)

-Bonfire of the Vanities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519460)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:10 AM
Author: fantasy-prone jew

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&forum_id=2#35633765

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49521571)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:32 AM
Author: Umber Depressive

or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of his vanities

toughens him up a bit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49522050)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: Outnumbered Trust Fund

The Illustrated Man

Odyssey

The International Jew

1984

Meditations

The Myth of Sisyphus

Hamlet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519465)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: Vigorous Forum Headpube

Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519476)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: bateful ocher site

i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer reading assignments



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519493)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:34 PM
Author: Vigorous Forum Headpube

Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Celestine Prophecy, Lord of the Flies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519513)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: bateful ocher site

they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your other recs, ty!

he just finished peak, so hatchet is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519523)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: Vigorous Forum Headpube

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519559)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:01 PM
Author: lilac startling faggot firefighter

The eyes and the impossible

sourdough

heart of samurai

artemis

rocket boys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519953)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: irradiated mother nowag

rocket boys is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49520282)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: lilac startling faggot firefighter

Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49521280)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:34 AM
Author: irradiated mother nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49521595)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: Umber Depressive

weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party scene at my rural West Virginia high school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49530601)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac insanely creepy fortuitous meteor

CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" those by HS, especially later in HS?

My 7 year old just read--and really enjoyed--Hatchet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519755)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: bateful ocher site

he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that’s more his reading level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519767)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: sadistic bipolar chapel

The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519483)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: bateful ocher site

ty for the recs, this is helpful

i just asked him what book he’s reading (we’re on a flight) and its war and peace

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519489)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: Hateful 180 toilet seat ratface

Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has read tons of other Russian lit and has a solid grounding in religion and philosophy.

Count of Monte Cristo is a goat novel that is also accessible and really exciting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519679)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: navy glittery school

seconding count of monte cristo

three musketeers is also great and vastly superior to any adaptation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519686)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: cerise floppy police squad

JackTales 🤡😳

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519490)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: lilac startling faggot firefighter

those are for reading out loud , clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519956)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: Jet-lagged Glassy Crotch

The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton

https://www.amazon.com/Boy-Pink-Hair-Perez-Hilton/dp/0451234200

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519492)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:32 PM
Author: Out-of-control racy son of senegal

Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz)

We Were Soldiers Once… And Young (Moore & Galloway)

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage (Lansing)

The Way of Men (Donovan)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519502)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Heady mediation

are you seriously recommending a book on manhood written by a homo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519701)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: Out-of-control racy son of senegal

I’m not even sure which author you’re talking about, though I’m 99.99% sure that it’s not Moore or Galloway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519724)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:41 PM
Author: Heady mediation

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519873)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: motley violent temple

he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers "androphile," a term he uses to describe romance and sex between masculine men

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Donovan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49528627)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: irradiated mother nowag

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519898)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: Out-of-control racy son of senegal

No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a better idea of what it means to be a man and to experience the thrill, the triumph, of surviving impossible odds. Leadership, loyalty, discipline. And then they get home and are like, fuck it, sign me up for WWI’s trenches

My middle son needed a bit of coaching on perseverance, so we read this together and then did a HARD AS FUCK mountain bike camping trip in western NC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49520739)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: exciting hall corn cake

James Bond novels

Conan (only read the flemming and howard originals though)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519505)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:39 PM
Author: Alcoholic avocado ladyboy psychic

The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519535)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:51 PM
Author: exciting hall corn cake

Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 or so) in a summer. all were 180. I tried reading the non-flemming but its not the same. They don't write novels like that anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519587)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Alcoholic avocado ladyboy psychic

Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new books to read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519744)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: exciting hall corn cake

1. Goldfinger

2. Moonraker

3. Casino Royale

4. From Russia With Love

5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

the order changes based on mood but these five are in a tier above.

the rest are all solid. for example, Diamonds are Forever is my least favorite and that is still leagues better than any modern espionage novel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49522101)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:44 PM
Author: Alcoholic avocado ladyboy psychic

tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49528612)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: irradiated mother nowag

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519729)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:42 PM
Author: yapping tank

Anabasis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519542)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: Heady mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519572)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: Balding Marvelous Travel Guidebook

Flowers for Algernon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519548)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: Heady mediation

The Lessons of History - Will & Ariel Durant

Man's Search for Meaning - Viktor Frankl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519568)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: Hairless genital piercing athletic conference

a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it. great series for boys who like knights, politics, and violence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519602)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: stirring useless lodge azn

Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in the series

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519689)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: nubile peach bawdyhouse regret

Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?)

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

Dune

anything recent by Lawrence Millman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519705)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: Heady mediation

> Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519706)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: bateful ocher site

read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class in hs. book was so so but class was 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519770)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: irradiated mother nowag

zorba the greek



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519710)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Out-of-control racy son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519736)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac insanely creepy fortuitous meteor

Several good recs already upthread. Some others:

The Things They Carried

Mark Twain--starting with Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn

1984

The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (and throw in The Hobbit)

Infinite Jest

Moby Dick

Blood Meridian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519751)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:30 PM
Author: Out-of-control racy son of senegal

Cr. list

I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit overexposed to the hopelessly feminized librarian space for a time and was looked down upon as kind of trite. But it’s 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49520745)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: azure gas station

The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorite. You shouldn't look down on librarian recs. This is all they do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49520815)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac insanely creepy fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49521254)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: motley violent temple

agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise caution with the second and third sentences just given that the values may not be stoic masculine warrior

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49530736)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Pungent lascivious scourge upon the earth

Watership Down

A Day No Pigs Would Die

2nd Where the Red Fern Grows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49520246)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:33 PM
Author: Appetizing Twinkling Uncleanness



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:40 PM
Author: sienna generalized bond

Starship Troopers

Enders Game

Johnny Tremain

Childhoods End

Rama



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49520778)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:16 AM
Author: fantasy-prone jew

A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49521578)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:11 AM
Author: yapping tank

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