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Ever wonder why 95% of "Great Literature" is utterly retarded and boring?

i still, from time to time, think about this, and resent my ...
Motley area
  01/11/26
now imagine the shitlib literature theyre reading in HS now ...
Stimulating Twisted Parlour
  01/11/26
This is an idiotic take. Literature is truly beautiful and a...
Diverse buff bawdyhouse volcanic crater
  01/11/26
I toss the literature boy! I toss it like rubbish!
Fragrant buck-toothed space
  01/11/26
Subtle Ethan Frome bashing
ivory address coldplay fan
  01/11/26
By any measure, I was probably in the 99th percentile of hig...
Purple rebellious parlor
  01/11/26
The black literature was even worse
ivory address coldplay fan
  01/11/26
Invisible man was pretty good IRC
dark national ratface
  01/12/26
"I was probably in the 99th percentile of high school l...
Sapphire brethren
  01/12/26
he sounds smart to me
maize property sound barrier
  01/12/26
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glittery wagecucks
  01/12/26
It's bonkers how millions of high school kids are forced to ...
Purple rebellious parlor
  01/11/26
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boyish marketing idea indirect expression
  01/11/26
Every American school child should be forced to slog their w...
Diverse buff bawdyhouse volcanic crater
  01/11/26
the classics are one of the few redeeming aspects of the mod...
Iridescent mexican rehab
  01/11/26
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Canary Trip Field
  01/12/26
ok so what do the real scholars, who have spent time with la...
glittery wagecucks
  01/12/26
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Canary Trip Field
  01/12/26
that's all fine. i just think kids should be exposed to the...
glittery wagecucks
  01/12/26
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Canary Trip Field
  01/12/26
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glittery wagecucks
  01/12/26
ok let's keep teaching them spanish so they can order diarrh...
Iridescent mexican rehab
  01/14/26
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Canary Trip Field
  01/14/26
Latin and Greek are dumb and gay.
Federal casino dragon
  01/12/26
the dense unintelligible prose is 180 because it lets them k...
Lilac Odious Party Of The First Part
  01/11/26
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comical white center wrinkle
  01/12/26
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chest-beating sickened pocket flask
  01/12/26
I like this theory
chartreuse vigorous juggernaut
  01/12/26
(flunked matrix algebra)
Irate aquamarine place of business
  01/12/26
"In 2010, a national U.S. Department of Education study...
multi-colored pea-brained piazza
  01/12/26
not flame they should teach descriptive statistics as an int...
Irate aquamarine place of business
  01/12/26
I thought it was more like “this shit is gay and for p...
Lilac Odious Party Of The First Part
  01/14/26
The point is to give them all a reference point for having s...
Irate aquamarine place of business
  01/11/26
Bro thats how you ended up pumo!
pink contagious nursing home
  01/11/26
It couldn't have anything to do with your intelligence.
blue thriller native fat ankles
  01/11/26
thread not going how OP expected? the western canon is 180,...
glittery wagecucks
  01/11/26
american authors yes, you gotta read non-american
Marvelous Low-t Dysfunction
  01/11/26
Retarded
spectacular really tough guy windowlicker
  01/11/26
Moby Dick is 97590402001710103710
Swashbuckling Stage Psychic
  01/11/26
Real retarded sir
chartreuse vigorous juggernaut
  01/12/26
I don’t think “great literature” is synony...
excitant insecure ape
  01/11/26
what books would you recommend instead ? id have paul val...
boyish marketing idea indirect expression
  01/11/26
Print capitalism has been a disaster for mankind
Irate aquamarine place of business
  01/11/26
teachers should go before the school boards in open session...
Greedy Dingle Berry
  01/11/26
Should students be required to read (after purchasing at ful...
Sapphire brethren
  01/12/26
why do you write this way?
puce masturbator
  01/12/26
why do you write so much?
Greedy Dingle Berry
  01/12/26
I can't stand the way contemporary authors write - telegraph...
bat shit crazy tripping public bath
  01/12/26
Since James Joyce and Sam Beckett, there hasn't been any Gre...
frisky chapel old irish cottage
  01/12/26
Nabokov, Greene, Ishiguro, maybe McEwan. Do they reach Joyc...
glittery wagecucks
  01/12/26
Great Literature is defined as adding to the canon of the hu...
frisky chapel old irish cottage
  01/14/26
Im gay
bateful balding location coffee pot
  01/12/26
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boyish marketing idea indirect expression
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bateful balding location coffee pot
  01/12/26
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dark national ratface
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bateful balding location coffee pot
  01/13/26
You only think this because English-language "great lit...
Saffron mind-boggling partner cuckoldry
  01/14/26
totally agree that a lot of great literature is exactly that...
brass soul-stirring menage
  01/14/26
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Canary Trip Field
  01/14/26


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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:15 PM
Author: Motley area

i still, from time to time, think about this, and resent my high school teachers for making me read those books

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49581978)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: Stimulating Twisted Parlour

now imagine the shitlib literature theyre reading in HS now

the stuff we read aint perfect, but imagine hs english now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49581980)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:26 PM
Author: Diverse buff bawdyhouse volcanic crater

This is an idiotic take. Literature is truly beautiful and ascended at times. It’s not some trifle to be tossed away like a piece of rubbish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582002)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: Fragrant buck-toothed space

I toss the literature boy! I toss it like rubbish!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582036)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: ivory address coldplay fan

Subtle Ethan Frome bashing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582011)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:35 PM
Author: Purple rebellious parlor

By any measure, I was probably in the 99th percentile of high school literature readers.

The only thing I took away from Ethan Frome was "wtf - why would they try to kill themselves by sledding? how stupid are these people that they thought this would work?"

What was the point of the average kids being forced to read this shit?

Wouldn't a Michael Chricton book capture their attention 10x more and present dramatic themes and philosophy in a much more understandable way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582022)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:44 PM
Author: ivory address coldplay fan

The black literature was even worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582047)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:41 PM
Author: dark national ratface

Invisible man was pretty good IRC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49584207)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:35 AM
Author: Sapphire brethren

"I was probably in the 99th percentile of high school literature readers"

And I'm sure your grades (and subsequent academic success) reflected this reality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582333)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:33 PM
Author: maize property sound barrier

he sounds smart to me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49584177)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 7:44 PM
Author: glittery wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49584673)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: Purple rebellious parlor

It's bonkers how millions of high school kids are forced to read these books with story and themes unrecognizable to them with dense unintelliglbe prose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582013)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:36 PM
Author: boyish marketing idea indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582026)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:38 PM
Author: Diverse buff bawdyhouse volcanic crater

Every American school child should be forced to slog their way through Moby Dick in 9th grade.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582029)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:56 PM
Author: Iridescent mexican rehab

the classics are one of the few redeeming aspects of the modern american high school humanities curriculum. they should be reading this kind of material exclusively in addition to latin and greek. the problem is that they deviate from it.

their teachers surely fuck up the discourse but mere exposure is at least a lifeline to the few intellects worth salvaging. the remaining 99% are just in virtual daycare anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582078)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:33 AM
Author: Canary Trip Field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582332)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: glittery wagecucks

ok so what do the real scholars, who have spent time with latin and greek, say

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582710)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:22 AM
Author: Canary Trip Field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582749)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:02 AM
Author: glittery wagecucks

that's all fine. i just think kids should be exposed to the ideas found in these works in english translation (per non-woke translators)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582955)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:09 AM
Author: Canary Trip Field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582965)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:38 PM
Author: glittery wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49584373)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:11 AM
Author: Iridescent mexican rehab

ok let's keep teaching them spanish so they can order diarrhea burritos from san antonio food trucks and communicate with their roofers. much more "practical."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49588267)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:59 AM
Author: Canary Trip Field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49588335)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:49 AM
Author: Federal casino dragon

Latin and Greek are dumb and gay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582347)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:16 PM
Author: Lilac Odious Party Of The First Part

the dense unintelligible prose is 180 because it lets them know how dumb they are. Losers should also be forced to take calculus. The education system is good at letting a person know how dumb they are if they don't disengage with it too early.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582245)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:55 AM
Author: comical white center wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582348)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 2:56 AM
Author: chest-beating sickened pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582502)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:32 PM
Author: chartreuse vigorous juggernaut

I like this theory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49584173)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:40 PM
Author: Irate aquamarine place of business

(flunked matrix algebra)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49584204)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:43 PM
Author: multi-colored pea-brained piazza

"In 2010, a national U.S. Department of Education study found that 80 percent of high school dropouts cited their inability to pass Algebra I as the primary reason for leaving school."

https://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ1013968

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49584398)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:52 PM
Author: Irate aquamarine place of business

not flame they should teach descriptive statistics as an introduction to algebra. But that would require math teachers to learn statistics, and that's illegal AFAICT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49584436)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:15 AM
Author: Lilac Odious Party Of The First Part

I thought it was more like “this shit is gay and for pussies” 😎

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49588273)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:25 PM
Author: Irate aquamarine place of business

The point is to give them all a reference point for having some kind of cultural/national identity. You don't have to like any of it, you just have know the basic plot or how to pronounce the author's name. Mexicans love reading the classics so they can feel more European

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582258)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: pink contagious nursing home

Bro thats how you ended up pumo!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582033)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:43 PM
Author: blue thriller native fat ankles

It couldn't have anything to do with your intelligence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582042)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:48 PM
Author: glittery wagecucks

thread not going how OP expected? the western canon is 180, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582054)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:49 PM
Author: Marvelous Low-t Dysfunction

american authors yes, you gotta read non-american

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582057)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:09 PM
Author: spectacular really tough guy windowlicker

Retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582232)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:27 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Stage Psychic

Moby Dick is 97590402001710103710

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582262)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 5:32 PM
Author: chartreuse vigorous juggernaut

Real retarded sir

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49584174)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: excitant insecure ape

I don’t think “great literature” is synonymous with most of the bullshit they made us read in hs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582060)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: boyish marketing idea indirect expression

what books would you recommend instead ?

id have paul valery monsieur teste and the remains of the day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582070)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:19 PM
Author: Irate aquamarine place of business

Print capitalism has been a disaster for mankind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582251)



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Date: January 11th, 2026 11:23 PM
Author: Greedy Dingle Berry

teachers should go before the school boards

in open session

and tell them the books they are going to require for each class

and why

before every school year, perhaps before every semester

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582254)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:36 AM
Author: Sapphire brethren

Should students be required to read (after purchasing at full price) The Art of the Deal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582336)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 3:05 AM
Author: puce masturbator

why do you write this way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582508)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 12:59 PM
Author: Greedy Dingle Berry

why do you write so much?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49583325)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:30 AM
Author: bat shit crazy tripping public bath

I can't stand the way contemporary authors write - telegraphic sentences with no interior identity, just "Jane did this, Joe did that, he said she said blah blah". every voice is the Same.

like why the fuck would I read something like that instead of just watching a tv show or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582758)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 9:46 AM
Author: frisky chapel old irish cottage

Since James Joyce and Sam Beckett, there hasn't been any Great Literature. Just force feed Harry Potter books to the next generation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582780)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 7:54 PM
Author: glittery wagecucks

Nabokov, Greene, Ishiguro, maybe McEwan. Do they reach Joyce, no, but they do meet other Great Literature



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49584704)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:41 AM
Author: frisky chapel old irish cottage

Great Literature is defined as adding to the canon of the human experience expressed through immortal words, words, words. I daresay no one living today would dare such a feat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49588311)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 10:56 AM
Author: bateful balding location coffee pot

Im gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582940)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 11:19 AM
Author: boyish marketing idea indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49582991)



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Date: January 12th, 2026 1:02 PM
Author: bateful balding location coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49583332)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 12:28 PM
Author: dark national ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49586151)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: bateful balding location coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49586161)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:47 AM
Author: Saffron mind-boggling partner cuckoldry

You only think this because English-language "great literature", especially as conceived by American high school teachers, is full of shitty novels for women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49588315)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: brass soul-stirring menage

totally agree that a lot of great literature is exactly that. there is also the strand of rambling Dickens crap where he was basically paid by the word and it shows.

also agree with above that most of the themes of actually great novels are inaccessible to a teen brain who have only experienced struggles relating to horizontal (peer) or vertical (parents/teachers) relationships.

i had to read The Sound and the Fury which was completely fucking ridiculous in hindsight. if a kid can barely understand the structure of a novel it makes very little sense to read something that upends it. the first fourth is a retard POV who cannot tell time. class was such a slog with 99% of the class having no idea what was happening



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49588326)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 9:09 AM
Author: Canary Trip Field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5820902&forum_id=2)#49588345)