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any books you read or wish you had read in high school? look...
dark space
  12/18/25
I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderso...
milky place of business background story
  12/18/25
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712? Reasonable price, ...
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Talented associate stead
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"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys...
Aphrodisiac nighttime institution fat ankles
  12/19/25
this is now forever in my search history I want you dead,...
Aphrodisiac nighttime institution fat ankles
  12/19/25
mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel
greedy round eye temple
  12/18/25
A few offhand: -On the Shortness of Life - Seneca -Sta...
exhilarant tank menage
  12/18/25
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&a...
Aphrodisiac nighttime institution fat ankles
  12/19/25
or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of...
Beady-eyed Box Office
  12/19/25
The Illustrated Man Odyssey The International Jew 1984 M...
Crystalline death wish set
  12/18/25
Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters
Silver brunch
  12/18/25
i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer readin...
dark space
  12/18/25
Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Ce...
Silver brunch
  12/18/25
they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your...
dark space
  12/18/25
180
Silver brunch
  12/18/25
The eyes and the impossible sourdough heart of samurai...
Concupiscible cuckold
  12/18/25
rocket boys is 180
Slate Nibblets Affirmative Action
  12/18/25
Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo
Concupiscible cuckold
  12/18/25
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Slate Nibblets Affirmative Action
  12/19/25
weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party...
Beady-eyed Box Office
  12/22/25
CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" thos...
Cruel-hearted Heaven
  12/18/25
he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that&rsq...
dark space
  12/18/25
The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)
Drab razzmatazz library reading party
  12/18/25
ty for the recs, this is helpful i just asked him what bo...
dark space
  12/18/25
Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has rea...
Appetizing Piazza
  12/18/25
seconding count of monte cristo three musketeers is also ...
Transparent theater windowlicker
  12/18/25
JackTales 🤡😳
adventurous trump supporter area
  12/18/25
those are for reading out loud , clown
Concupiscible cuckold
  12/18/25
The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton https://www.amazon...
onyx domesticated lay
  12/18/25
Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz) We Were Soldiers Once… And...
underhanded dysfunction
  12/18/25
are you seriously recommending a book on manhood written by ...
Wonderful Cordovan Incel Depressive
  12/18/25
I’m not even sure which author you’re talking ab...
underhanded dysfunction
  12/18/25
lol
Wonderful Cordovan Incel Depressive
  12/18/25
he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers &qu...
aquamarine locus ratface
  12/21/25
Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000
Slate Nibblets Affirmative Action
  12/18/25
No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a bet...
underhanded dysfunction
  12/18/25
James Bond novels Conan (only read the flemming and howard...
Stirring range dingle berry
  12/18/25
The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.
exhilarant tank menage
  12/18/25
Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 ...
Stirring range dingle berry
  12/18/25
Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new boo...
exhilarant tank menage
  12/18/25
1. Goldfinger 2. Moonraker 3. Casino Royale 4. From Russ...
Stirring range dingle berry
  12/19/25
tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I th...
exhilarant tank menage
  12/21/25
cr
Slate Nibblets Affirmative Action
  12/18/25
Anabasis
cocky rebellious orchestra pit idea he suggested
  12/18/25
...
Wonderful Cordovan Incel Depressive
  12/18/25
Flowers for Algernon
mustard lettuce
  12/18/25
The Lessons of History - Will & Ariel Durant Man's Sear...
Wonderful Cordovan Incel Depressive
  12/18/25
a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it...
glittery kitty cat indian lodge
  12/18/25
Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in ...
startling main people half-breed
  12/18/25
Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?) Zen and the Art of Motorc...
Kink-friendly church
  12/18/25
> Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance lol
Wonderful Cordovan Incel Depressive
  12/18/25
read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class i...
dark space
  12/18/25
zorba the greek
Slate Nibblets Affirmative Action
  12/18/25
...
underhanded dysfunction
  12/18/25
Several good recs already upthread. Some others: The Thin...
Cruel-hearted Heaven
  12/18/25
Cr. list I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit ov...
underhanded dysfunction
  12/18/25
The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorit...
slap-happy digit ratio water buffalo
  12/18/25
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Cruel-hearted Heaven
  12/18/25
agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise cau...
aquamarine locus ratface
  12/22/25
Watership Down A Day No Pigs Would Die 2nd Where the R...
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  12/18/25
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sticky sanctuary knife
  12/18/25
Starship Troopers Enders Game Johnny Tremain Childhoods E...
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  12/18/25
A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES
Aphrodisiac nighttime institution fat ankles
  12/19/25
Neon Bible better rec for younger kid
cocky rebellious orchestra pit idea he suggested
  12/19/25
abridged edgar allen poe short stories
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: dark space

any books you read or wish you had read in high school? looking for something that would be motivating / tools for life genre

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519424)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: milky place of business background story

I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderson (Broken Sword, Three Hearts and Three Lions) Fritz Lieber (Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser) etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519444)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: peach supple church building jap

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712?

Reasonable price, free shipping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519452)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: Talented associate stead



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:35 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac nighttime institution fat ankles

"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys and crayons, a bubble bath, and lots of love."

-- School Library Journal

"Will undoubtedly be scooped up by families seeking queer representation in board books."

-- Kirkus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49521596)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:42 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac nighttime institution fat ankles

this is now forever in my search history

I want you dead, Malk Poo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49521719)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: greedy round eye temple

mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519459)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: exhilarant tank menage

A few offhand:

-On the Shortness of Life - Seneca

-Starship Troopers (the book is much better and more serious than the movie)

-Bonfire of the Vanities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519460)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:10 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac nighttime institution fat ankles

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&forum_id=2#35633765

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49521571)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:32 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Box Office

or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of his vanities

toughens him up a bit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49522050)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: Crystalline death wish set

The Illustrated Man

Odyssey

The International Jew

1984

Meditations

The Myth of Sisyphus

Hamlet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519465)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: Silver brunch

Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519476)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: dark space

i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer reading assignments



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519493)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:34 PM
Author: Silver brunch

Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Celestine Prophecy, Lord of the Flies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519513)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: dark space

they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your other recs, ty!

he just finished peak, so hatchet is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519523)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: Silver brunch

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519559)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:01 PM
Author: Concupiscible cuckold

The eyes and the impossible

sourdough

heart of samurai

artemis

rocket boys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519953)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: Slate Nibblets Affirmative Action

rocket boys is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49520282)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Concupiscible cuckold

Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49521280)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:34 AM
Author: Slate Nibblets Affirmative Action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49521595)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Box Office

weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party scene at my rural West Virginia high school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49530601)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted Heaven

CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" those by HS, especially later in HS?

My 7 year old just read--and really enjoyed--Hatchet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519755)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: dark space

he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that’s more his reading level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519767)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: Drab razzmatazz library reading party

The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519483)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: dark space

ty for the recs, this is helpful

i just asked him what book he’s reading (we’re on a flight) and its war and peace

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519489)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: Appetizing Piazza

Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has read tons of other Russian lit and has a solid grounding in religion and philosophy.

Count of Monte Cristo is a goat novel that is also accessible and really exciting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519679)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: Transparent theater windowlicker

seconding count of monte cristo

three musketeers is also great and vastly superior to any adaptation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519686)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: adventurous trump supporter area

JackTales 🤡😳

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519490)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: Concupiscible cuckold

those are for reading out loud , clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519956)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: onyx domesticated lay

The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton

https://www.amazon.com/Boy-Pink-Hair-Perez-Hilton/dp/0451234200

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519492)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:32 PM
Author: underhanded dysfunction

Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz)

We Were Soldiers Once… And Young (Moore & Galloway)

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage (Lansing)

The Way of Men (Donovan)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519502)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Wonderful Cordovan Incel Depressive

are you seriously recommending a book on manhood written by a homo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519701)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: underhanded dysfunction

I’m not even sure which author you’re talking about, though I’m 99.99% sure that it’s not Moore or Galloway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519724)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:41 PM
Author: Wonderful Cordovan Incel Depressive

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519873)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: aquamarine locus ratface

he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers "androphile," a term he uses to describe romance and sex between masculine men

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Donovan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49528627)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: Slate Nibblets Affirmative Action

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519898)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: underhanded dysfunction

No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a better idea of what it means to be a man and to experience the thrill, the triumph, of surviving impossible odds. Leadership, loyalty, discipline. And then they get home and are like, fuck it, sign me up for WWI’s trenches

My middle son needed a bit of coaching on perseverance, so we read this together and then did a HARD AS FUCK mountain bike camping trip in western NC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49520739)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: Stirring range dingle berry

James Bond novels

Conan (only read the flemming and howard originals though)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519505)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:39 PM
Author: exhilarant tank menage

The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519535)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:51 PM
Author: Stirring range dingle berry

Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 or so) in a summer. all were 180. I tried reading the non-flemming but its not the same. They don't write novels like that anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519587)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: exhilarant tank menage

Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new books to read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519744)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Stirring range dingle berry

1. Goldfinger

2. Moonraker

3. Casino Royale

4. From Russia With Love

5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

the order changes based on mood but these five are in a tier above.

the rest are all solid. for example, Diamonds are Forever is my least favorite and that is still leagues better than any modern espionage novel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49522101)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:44 PM
Author: exhilarant tank menage

tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49528612)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Slate Nibblets Affirmative Action

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519729)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:42 PM
Author: cocky rebellious orchestra pit idea he suggested

Anabasis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519542)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: Wonderful Cordovan Incel Depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519572)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: mustard lettuce

Flowers for Algernon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519548)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: Wonderful Cordovan Incel Depressive

The Lessons of History - Will & Ariel Durant

Man's Search for Meaning - Viktor Frankl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519568)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: glittery kitty cat indian lodge

a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it. great series for boys who like knights, politics, and violence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519602)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: startling main people half-breed

Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in the series

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519689)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: Kink-friendly church

Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?)

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

Dune

anything recent by Lawrence Millman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519705)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: Wonderful Cordovan Incel Depressive

> Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519706)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: dark space

read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class in hs. book was so so but class was 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519770)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: Slate Nibblets Affirmative Action

zorba the greek



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519710)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: underhanded dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519736)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted Heaven

Several good recs already upthread. Some others:

The Things They Carried

Mark Twain--starting with Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn

1984

The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (and throw in The Hobbit)

Infinite Jest

Moby Dick

Blood Meridian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49519751)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:30 PM
Author: underhanded dysfunction

Cr. list

I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit overexposed to the hopelessly feminized librarian space for a time and was looked down upon as kind of trite. But it’s 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49520745)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: slap-happy digit ratio water buffalo

The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorite. You shouldn't look down on librarian recs. This is all they do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49520815)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted Heaven



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: aquamarine locus ratface

agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise caution with the second and third sentences just given that the values may not be stoic masculine warrior

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49530736)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Swollen Crackhouse Therapy

Watership Down

A Day No Pigs Would Die

2nd Where the Red Fern Grows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49520246)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:33 PM
Author: sticky sanctuary knife



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:40 PM
Author: orange chad genital piercing

Starship Troopers

Enders Game

Johnny Tremain

Childhoods End

Rama



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49520778)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:16 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac nighttime institution fat ankles

A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2)#49521578)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:11 AM
Author: cocky rebellious orchestra pit idea he suggested

Neon Bible better rec for younger kid

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