but yeah furk carmos, they shld be charged by the mile each mile they drive just to punish them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552111)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552369)

this is the liberal answer to every problem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552170)

it's congested because people who have to show up to work cannot afford to live where they work. and you want the solution to be to make it more expensive for them?

blue collar prole suffering through congestion every day to do necessary work. faggot screenjob guy "we should charge them more during rush hour because they can't afford it and they'll stay off the highway and away from their families even longer!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552226)

Yes, obviously they are. They are getting chicken fingers from Wendys and stuff. Especially given that traffic has dropped more than 30% almost immediately after a slight financial deterrence.

Take public transportation if you want to live in the most crowded expensive city in the US.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552242)

you support this because the fee is inconsequential to you and you don't care that it would be significant for other people. if it was up to you they wouldn't exist at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552248)

since you are unconcerned with how the will effect the poor, try doing some second order thinking and realize how these increased costs will be passed down to you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552827)

And delivery costs to Manhattan are already high. Congestion pricing could lower them if they cut time waiting in traffic. If not, the wealthiest consumers in America will bear the burden of getting their shit delivered. Oh, the horror!

The target here is random idiots driving around NYC for dumb reasons like “I moved here from Ohio and think you can’t walk with groceries” or “I compensate for my tiny penis with this large loud vehicle that goes 10 mph on average” or “my drug-dealing business is really taking off, time to buy a sick Nissan and go get a new T-shirt in SoHo.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48553128)

businesses have something to bitch about but as others already said, rates will adjust and oh boo hoo MFH retailers! somebody will figure out how to do it profitably if you don't, thus the reason MFH exists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48554272)

this is why we can't have nice things.

shitcons don't want to do public works and shitlibs think everything can be fixed with taxes. so we wind up with a crumbling shithole country that's somehow more expensive than ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552280)

libs care deeply about climate change and were very concerned about covid variants yet threw both to the wind when they threatened the economic viability of their precious cities:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2022/02/17/new-york-city-mayor-eric-adams-calls-for-companies-to-quickly-bring-workers-back-to-the-office/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552400)

the lib hypocrisy thin is a non-sequitur and reveals your position is based on "grr libs grrrr" rater than substance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552444)

Libs for decades have engineered NYC to be a playground for the rich and a shelter for poors subsidized by the middle class who work but can't actually afford/want to live there. NYC needs the wagecucks to come in every day to sustain itself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552462)

you're right that this is all about squeezing every last penny from people. which is why i'm passionate about the opposition. your stance seems to be "fuck it cities are retarded anyway", which i think is naive. there are tons of empty rust belt cities people could flock too. they don't come to MFH because of the opera, they go where jobs + their community is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552478)

so the city wants computer traffic to bring in a bunch of poors into the city to squeeze money out of them and to rent office space, and then they want to charge them money for taking up space because they were forced to commute in? that's what i'm against.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552504)

Because they are controlled by government or quasi-government entities, they are filled with bloated salaries and benefits, cost overruns, etc. they all have certain routes/lines that are profitable and numerous ones that are not because lobbies for those areas force them to cover them. They tolerate crime/filth etc.

With the advent of cards tying to identity, public transport could be effectively priced, safe (by banning anyone they want), and with decent management could be efficient.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552500)

yes, entrenched lib bureaucrats and tolerating crime and filth is a big part of the problem. i'm saying we should work toward improving that. i'm not pollyannaish and ignorant of what a monumental undertaking that is. but i also won't just throw up my hands and say "fuck it, let america rot."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552511)

Covid proved this, but the city interests have forced an (at least tried to) end to WFH because, if not, the cities and the liberal political complex and the overtaxed base that supports it would fall apart. Put people in suburbs they become more conservative. Let them own a house, they care about crime and community.

What the congestion tax is a tax on those outside the city. It’s a toll road. It taxes some people who live where the toll is there, but its design is such that it taxes others. That being said, anything that keeps Proles off the road is good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552472)

these proles have been priced out of living where they work, which causes congestion, and the solution to alleviating the congestion is taking more money from working class proles in the hope that they won't drive during rush hour (despite their GC overlords demanding they drive through rush hour)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552485)

Nice things should be expensive, poors should live in filth, and middle class should have a decent but not extravagant life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552843)

you out of touch retards don't understand how the prole mind works. faggot libs are always trying to influence behavior with tax tweaks, targeting morons who don't know how taxes work. this is the "slide dat card and let it do what it do" class of people.

LtM is just a moron. but you're just bitter and don't like these people because they inconvenience you. never mind that they're cleaning your trash and doing all the prole work necessary for you, and you're sitting around in crusty socks at a WFH screenjob seething that a plumber hauling a bunch of equipment doens't just take the subway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48552330)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48554566)

yes

"proles"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663758&forum_id=2)#48557792)