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Irradiated Spot Blood Rage
  01/08/26
yes it is
lime field
  01/08/26
Why does it exist?
Irradiated Spot Blood Rage
  01/08/26
because White people (your Betters) decided that it should
lime field
  01/08/26
Why?
Irradiated Spot Blood Rage
  01/08/26
yes, it is
dead menage
  01/08/26
Why does it exist?
Irradiated Spot Blood Rage
  01/08/26
who cares
dead menage
  01/08/26
Anyone?
Irradiated Spot Blood Rage
  01/08/26
(Stephen Miller’s intern)
Hairraiser khaki legend son of senegal
  01/08/26
Never heard of it.
Sticky titillating indian lodge
  01/08/26
It's the immunity that applies to judges and (in certain cir...
avocado ticket booth haunted graveyard
  01/08/26
So judges and legislators can murder people and no one can a...
Irradiated Spot Blood Rage
  01/08/26
it applies only to acts done in the scope of the role.
Bat shit crazy bawdyhouse philosopher-king
  01/08/26
Wow. So the DHS donkey who violated DHS policy doesn't enjoy...
Irradiated Spot Blood Rage
  01/08/26
i have no idea if absolute immunity applies to the MN killin...
Bat shit crazy bawdyhouse philosopher-king
  01/08/26
DHS agents violating DHS policies are operating within the s...
Irradiated Spot Blood Rage
  01/08/26
that's the entire point, and the power, of absolute immunity...
Bat shit crazy bawdyhouse philosopher-king
  01/08/26
Violating policy = doing your job? Wow, government employmen...
Irradiated Spot Blood Rage
  01/08/26
i'm not sure you and i are focusing on the key issue. abs...
Bat shit crazy bawdyhouse philosopher-king
  01/08/26
So there are no consequences for "fucking up" if y...
Irradiated Spot Blood Rage
  01/08/26
absolute immunity is quite rare, as i understand it. qual...
Bat shit crazy bawdyhouse philosopher-king
  01/08/26
I'm stupid so please bear with me: if there's a written agen...
Irradiated Spot Blood Rage
  01/08/26
that's my understanding, yes. AI is a doctrine for fuck-up s...
Bat shit crazy bawdyhouse philosopher-king
  01/09/26
If he accidentally shot the driver I can see it, but this gu...
Irradiated Spot Blood Rage
  01/09/26


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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: Irradiated Spot Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573120)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: lime field

yes it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573122)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: Irradiated Spot Blood Rage

Why does it exist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573211)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:44 PM
Author: lime field

because White people (your Betters) decided that it should

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573240)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: Irradiated Spot Blood Rage

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573418)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:19 PM
Author: dead menage

yes, it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573125)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:22 PM
Author: Irradiated Spot Blood Rage

Why does it exist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573148)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:33 PM
Author: dead menage

who cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573205)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:34 PM
Author: Irradiated Spot Blood Rage

Anyone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573210)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:20 PM
Author: Hairraiser khaki legend son of senegal

(Stephen Miller’s intern)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573130)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:21 PM
Author: Sticky titillating indian lodge

Never heard of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573138)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: avocado ticket booth haunted graveyard

It's the immunity that applies to judges and (in certain circumstances) prosecutors and legislators.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573213)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:15 PM
Author: Irradiated Spot Blood Rage

So judges and legislators can murder people and no one can arrest them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573368)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:26 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy bawdyhouse philosopher-king

it applies only to acts done in the scope of the role.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573411)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: Irradiated Spot Blood Rage

Wow. So the DHS donkey who violated DHS policy doesn't enjoy absolute immunity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573417)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:27 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy bawdyhouse philosopher-king

i have no idea if absolute immunity applies to the MN killing.

in general, though, the question of whether something is in the scope does not turn on whether policy was violated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573790)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:36 PM
Author: Irradiated Spot Blood Rage

DHS agents violating DHS policies are operating within the scope of their duties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573813)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy bawdyhouse philosopher-king

that's the entire point, and the power, of absolute immunity. there is no need to decide whether a judge or legislator who is following policy should get immunity.

the entire issue arises when a judge or legislator is doing their job and massively errs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573965)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:27 PM
Author: Irradiated Spot Blood Rage

Violating policy = doing your job? Wow, government employment is amazing!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573971)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:33 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy bawdyhouse philosopher-king

i'm not sure you and i are focusing on the key issue.

absolute immunity becomes an issue when someone arguably fucks up. it doesn't become an issue when someone follows policy.

so if a judge makes a massively erroneous ruling but wasn't bribed, etc., then it was within the scope of the job but was outside policy -- and the judge gets absolute immunity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573986)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:34 PM
Author: Irradiated Spot Blood Rage

So there are no consequences for "fucking up" if you work for the government

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49573991)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy bawdyhouse philosopher-king

absolute immunity is quite rare, as i understand it.

qualified immunity is more common, but even there it is broadly applied. cons have wanted to trim back or even decimate QI but libs have opposed that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49574651)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:38 PM
Author: Irradiated Spot Blood Rage

I'm stupid so please bear with me: if there's a written agency policy that says "don't shoot moving vehicles," but an agency official shoots into a moving a vehicle, can the agency official still claim he was acting within the scope of his duties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49574741)



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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:05 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy bawdyhouse philosopher-king

that's my understanding, yes. AI is a doctrine for fuck-up situations. but if you're doing more or less the official function, even if you get it wrong, it's within the scope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49574789)



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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:15 AM
Author: Irradiated Spot Blood Rage

If he accidentally shot the driver I can see it, but this guy had extensive training and indemnifying him is a bad look for any employer. I guess I'll leave it there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2)#49574803)