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Dems will get emboldened by 2026 victory, overreach, and lose in 2028
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:09 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) Nothing is getting passed over the next 2 years because Trump is POTUS. Many Americans will still chalk this up to Democrats being ineffective, particularly because Dems love to promise BIG CHANGES even if theres no path to accomplishing them.
Trump will act increasingly buffoonishly, and libs won't be able to help themselves from making TDS the focal point of the campaign. After four straight election cycles, and with Trump not on the ballot and the country not the Fourth Reich they said it'd be, this strategy will be ineffective.
Emboldened by 2026 and flowery polls, libs will launch woke 2.0. The primary will be hotly contested and the winner will have run very far to the left to win. This won't be able to be walked back.
The Dem candidate will be Newsom or some other candidate despised in purple states with decades of baggage. They'll try to walk back their woke shit but it'll just come off as insincere, chilling enthusiasm from progressive without capturing many votes from swing voters.
Vance will emerge from the primary relatively unscathed as he'll start with a huge lead and Rubio will drop out quickly. Some insane far-right dark horse will emerge as in third and hang around too long, and Vance will come out looking like a reasonable moderate.
There's also a solid chance Trump dies. If so Vance will win huge. Libs will not be able to resist celebrating, which like the Trump trials in 2024 will mortally outrage the middle and revitalize former trumpmos.
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:26 PM Author: ZoZo Society and Its Future Possible, but I think you are overrating Vance's ability to consolidate support around himself and ignoring the absolute clusterfuck the Republican primary might be. There are like 5 or 6 Con factions at this point and a lot more at least semi popular figures in the party than what the Ds have. I could see 4 to 6 guys all having enough support to hang on deep into the Con primaries. Keep in mind it's not just about winning on the Con side, it's also about increasing your visibility and influence and turning that into $$$, there have been people playing that game in Republican presidential primaries for at least a decade and a half now. Remember Herman Cain? Rick Santorum kept going in 2012 long after his campaign was dead just because Foster Friess was willing to fund the whole thing. That kind of thing seems even easier to do now. One rich guy and a strong social media presence is enough for a real campaign now. Trump had both of those things to himself when he ran, but you don't have to be independently wealthy to have both of those things if one rich guy likes you.
Dems have 3 broad groups, DSA/race communism nuts, core libs, and what's left of the DLC dem/Clintonite/Obama establishment patchwork wing. The third wing pushed through Biden and Clinton, they probably won't be able to pull that trick again. I think they will try to consolidate around some dumpy HR lady type from the middle group (like in Michigan recently) but that person will lose to a charismatic and zesty gay race communist. The only question then is what comes out of the Con primary mess. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:42 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) I agree that those are also strong possibilities. I just didn't mention alternative outcomes because that felt like hedging.
I think the biggest risk to JD isn't a large primary, it's walking the razors edge of distancing himself from Trump without invoking his ire. JD has already started on this and Trump has made some catty comments about it. A healthy Trump will still control a sizeable chunk of MAGA boomers and will be able to kingmake, or at least destroy, any candidate he wants. And he'll demand flattery from his chosen heir, which is a real catch 22. His health is a big question mark here. He's noticeably slowed down since 2024. Doesnt look to be in any imminent risk but with his age and BMI things can change in an instant. Best case scenario for Vance is Trump croaks close enough away from the election that voters still care but far enough away that the candidate didn't have to praise him and the very successful Iran war too much |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:54 PM Author: ZoZo Society and Its Future Fair, the core issue probably is how much influence Trump will have over the primary. But that's a different thing than kingmaking people in House races who will serve while you are going to continue to be president.
I think he will be able to explicitly move something like 20 percent of the primary electorate assuming he is alive/sentient, the question will be does the person he chooses have enough support independent of Trump's endorsement to get into the 30-40 range and win against the field (that was all Trump really had in 2016). If he gets strongly behind Vance, yeah Vance probably wins, but Vance is fully capable of fucking that up. If he doesn't? Open season, I don't see 40% of the primary electorate lining up to vote for the Toyota Dealer or Donald Trump Jr.
There's also the possibility that there will be some shiny new thing that people latch on to. 13 years is a long time to control a political party, seems like it is usually about the limit of time. Trump was a joke in 2014, somebody else could catch lightning in a bottle next year and carry it through the primary. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:05 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) Agree 100%. A Tucker but not Tucker would do very well. Toyoyaspic and Vance will never be able to completely distance themselves from Trump and some dark horse that stands for pre-Iran MAGA values would clean up. Especially in the general. Trump will weild power in the primary but in the general the GOP does a great job of lining up and I think MAGA diehards will show up even if Trump trashes a dark horse particularly lf the libs go with someone like AOC.
Same thing could happen with the libs too. All the progressives are saddled with woke baggage but there is a lot of enthusiasm for progressive policies. If a Bernie 2016 type emerges and doesn't have "haha woke 1 was crazy" and COVID French laundry baggage they'll also do well. |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:03 PM Author: Nazi Dave Chapelle (Prestige Feuds) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2).#50063997) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:28 PM Author: reluctant liberal artist with good phenotype 2028 presidential election will be decided by AI and whichever political party figures out better messaging about it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2).#50063892) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:32 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Ossoff is perfectly set up to wipe the floor with either Vance or Rubio and that’s not even accounting for the possibility that Tucker gets in, which goes up if and when the horse race polling shows Ossoff beating both the GOP front runners by 10+. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2).#50063916) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:34 PM Author: reluctant liberal artist with good phenotype So true, the political party with 80% unfavorability toward Jews and Israel is going to elect a Jewish male as president in 2028 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2).#50063919) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:39 PM Author: sealclubber yes, ossoff. ossoff the charts name recognition ossoff the charts accomplishments ossoff the charts popularity |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:42 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2).#50063945) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:55 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) A white guy from a purple state without much woke baggage woild be the ideal candidate and would probably win and there's no way libs will be smart enough to nominate him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2).#50063979) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:58 PM Author: Craig Niggio I’m sorry, a *WHAT* guy?? 🫠(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2).#50063987) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 4:07 PM Author: https://i.imgur.com/wa2B8mT.png (gunneratttt) A white passing cryptojew at least. Idk much about him, is he an AIPAC Bibi worshiping kike? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2).#50064010) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:58 PM Author: Craig Niggio LMAO oh man that was funny tyft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2).#50063985) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:43 PM Author: ''"'"''"''''"""''' just stopping Trump and republicans from enacting any new legislation for 2 years is enough. that’s all voters are after and the reason Dems are at 90% in the betting markets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892438&forum_id=2).#50063948) |
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Date: August 12th, 2026 3:57 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe "Many Americans will still chalk this up to Democrats being ineffective, particularly because Dems love to promise BIG CHANGES even if theres no path to accomplishing them."
Didn't happen in 2018-2020 and Trump is even less popular. Also didn't happen to the GOP in 2014-2016 and 2022-2024 or the dems in 2006-2008. The admin in power is almost always blamed for whatever problems there are. Here's my prediction: economy same as now=2020 narrow dem win; better economy than now=2024 GOP win; economy worse than now in 2028=2008 dem win. |