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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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onyx locale sex offender
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike
  12/16/25
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onyx locale sex offender
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
lascivious rigor reading party
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
lascivious rigor reading party
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
lascivious rigor reading party
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
onyx locale sex offender
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
lascivious rigor reading party
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
lascivious rigor reading party
  12/17/25
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onyx locale sex offender
  12/17/25
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Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
citrine odious genital piercing chapel
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike
  12/16/25
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citrine odious genital piercing chapel
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Talented Corner
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Flirting theater
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
hyperactive degenerate
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Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike
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onyx locale sex offender
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Bateful Temple Sandwich
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Comical queen of the night menage
  12/17/25
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Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike
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Bateful Temple Sandwich
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onyx locale sex offender
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onyx locale sex offender
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
lascivious rigor reading party
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Spectacular Main People
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: onyx locale sex offender



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: onyx locale sex offender

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: lascivious rigor reading party

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: lascivious rigor reading party

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: lascivious rigor reading party

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: onyx locale sex offender

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: lascivious rigor reading party

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: lascivious rigor reading party

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: onyx locale sex offender



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: citrine odious genital piercing chapel

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: citrine odious genital piercing chapel



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Talented Corner

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Flirting theater

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: hyperactive degenerate

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: onyx locale sex offender



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Bateful Temple Sandwich

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Comical queen of the night menage

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Sepia Beady-eyed Preventive Strike



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Bateful Temple Sandwich



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: onyx locale sex offender



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: onyx locale sex offender



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: lascivious rigor reading party

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Spectacular Main People

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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