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Cons what the fuck is "absolute immunity?" Is that a legal concept?

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exciting meetinghouse
  01/08/26
yes it is
Appetizing slap-happy shrine
  01/08/26
Why does it exist?
exciting meetinghouse
  01/08/26
because White people (your Betters) decided that it should
Appetizing slap-happy shrine
  01/08/26
Why?
exciting meetinghouse
  01/08/26
yes, it is
idiotic glassy menage old irish cottage
  01/08/26
Why does it exist?
exciting meetinghouse
  01/08/26
who cares
idiotic glassy menage old irish cottage
  01/08/26
Anyone?
exciting meetinghouse
  01/08/26
(Stephen Miller’s intern)
Swashbuckling really tough guy
  01/08/26
Never heard of it.
azure black woman
  01/08/26
It's the immunity that applies to judges and (in certain cir...
Gaped Odious Newt Parlour
  01/08/26
So judges and legislators can murder people and no one can a...
exciting meetinghouse
  01/08/26
it applies only to acts done in the scope of the role.
Harsh stead scourge upon the earth
  01/08/26
Wow. So the DHS donkey who violated DHS policy doesn't enjoy...
exciting meetinghouse
  01/08/26
i have no idea if absolute immunity applies to the MN killin...
Harsh stead scourge upon the earth
  01/08/26
DHS agents violating DHS policies are operating within the s...
exciting meetinghouse
  01/08/26
that's the entire point, and the power, of absolute immunity...
Harsh stead scourge upon the earth
  01/08/26
Violating policy = doing your job? Wow, government employmen...
exciting meetinghouse
  01/08/26
i'm not sure you and i are focusing on the key issue. abs...
Harsh stead scourge upon the earth
  01/08/26
So there are no consequences for "fucking up" if y...
exciting meetinghouse
  01/08/26
absolute immunity is quite rare, as i understand it. qual...
Harsh stead scourge upon the earth
  01/08/26
I'm stupid so please bear with me: if there's a written agen...
exciting meetinghouse
  01/08/26
that's my understanding, yes. AI is a doctrine for fuck-up s...
Harsh stead scourge upon the earth
  01/09/26
If he accidentally shot the driver I can see it, but this gu...
exciting meetinghouse
  01/09/26


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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: exciting meetinghouse



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: Appetizing slap-happy shrine

yes it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573122)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: exciting meetinghouse

Why does it exist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573211)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:44 PM
Author: Appetizing slap-happy shrine

because White people (your Betters) decided that it should

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573240)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: exciting meetinghouse

Why?

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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:19 PM
Author: idiotic glassy menage old irish cottage

yes, it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573125)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:22 PM
Author: exciting meetinghouse

Why does it exist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573148)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:33 PM
Author: idiotic glassy menage old irish cottage

who cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573205)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:34 PM
Author: exciting meetinghouse

Anyone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573210)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:20 PM
Author: Swashbuckling really tough guy

(Stephen Miller’s intern)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573130)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:21 PM
Author: azure black woman

Never heard of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573138)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: Gaped Odious Newt Parlour

It's the immunity that applies to judges and (in certain circumstances) prosecutors and legislators.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573213)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:15 PM
Author: exciting meetinghouse

So judges and legislators can murder people and no one can arrest them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573368)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:26 PM
Author: Harsh stead scourge upon the earth

it applies only to acts done in the scope of the role.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573411)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: exciting meetinghouse

Wow. So the DHS donkey who violated DHS policy doesn't enjoy absolute immunity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573417)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:27 PM
Author: Harsh stead scourge upon the earth

i have no idea if absolute immunity applies to the MN killing.

in general, though, the question of whether something is in the scope does not turn on whether policy was violated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573790)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:36 PM
Author: exciting meetinghouse

DHS agents violating DHS policies are operating within the scope of their duties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573813)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: Harsh stead scourge upon the earth

that's the entire point, and the power, of absolute immunity. there is no need to decide whether a judge or legislator who is following policy should get immunity.

the entire issue arises when a judge or legislator is doing their job and massively errs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573965)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:27 PM
Author: exciting meetinghouse

Violating policy = doing your job? Wow, government employment is amazing!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573971)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:33 PM
Author: Harsh stead scourge upon the earth

i'm not sure you and i are focusing on the key issue.

absolute immunity becomes an issue when someone arguably fucks up. it doesn't become an issue when someone follows policy.

so if a judge makes a massively erroneous ruling but wasn't bribed, etc., then it was within the scope of the job but was outside policy -- and the judge gets absolute immunity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573986)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:34 PM
Author: exciting meetinghouse

So there are no consequences for "fucking up" if you work for the government

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49573991)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: Harsh stead scourge upon the earth

absolute immunity is quite rare, as i understand it.

qualified immunity is more common, but even there it is broadly applied. cons have wanted to trim back or even decimate QI but libs have opposed that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49574651)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:38 PM
Author: exciting meetinghouse

I'm stupid so please bear with me: if there's a written agency policy that says "don't shoot moving vehicles," but an agency official shoots into a moving a vehicle, can the agency official still claim he was acting within the scope of his duties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49574741)



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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:05 AM
Author: Harsh stead scourge upon the earth

that's my understanding, yes. AI is a doctrine for fuck-up situations. but if you're doing more or less the official function, even if you get it wrong, it's within the scope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49574789)



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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:15 AM
Author: exciting meetinghouse

If he accidentally shot the driver I can see it, but this guy had extensive training and indemnifying him is a bad look for any employer. I guess I'll leave it there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2).#49574803)