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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
frozen alcoholic field
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Twinkling feces
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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nyuug
  07/20/25
Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Flesh new version school cafeteria
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
pea-brained step-uncle's house filthpig
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Flesh new version school cafeteria
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
pea-brained step-uncle's house filthpig
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Flesh new version school cafeteria
  05/29/25
Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
Exhilarant public bath twinkling uncleanness
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sepia queen of the night lodge
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shimmering hissy fit property
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
multi-colored theatre dragon
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cq
Mildly autistic diverse home depressive
  05/29/25
I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
Ruddy Sick Corner
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
Exhilarant public bath twinkling uncleanness
  07/02/25
i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
dull address
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
Dashing black woman
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: frozen alcoholic field

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Twinkling feces

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Twinkling feces

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Twinkling feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Twinkling feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Twinkling feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Twinkling feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Twinkling feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Twinkling feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Twinkling feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Twinkling feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Twinkling feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49117359)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Flesh new version school cafeteria

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: pea-brained step-uncle's house filthpig

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Flesh new version school cafeteria

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: pea-brained step-uncle's house filthpig

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Flesh new version school cafeteria

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Exhilarant public bath twinkling uncleanness

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: sepia queen of the night lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: shimmering hissy fit property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: multi-colored theatre dragon

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Mildly autistic diverse home depressive

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Ruddy Sick Corner

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Exhilarant public bath twinkling uncleanness

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: dull address

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Dashing black woman

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Light digit ratio

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49105022)