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Should I go to law school or stick with consulting? (Cost benefit analysis)
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:06 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015596) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:06 PM Author: crawly domesticated mad cow disease go to law school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015601) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:43 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32018139) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:41 PM Author: dun wonderful double fault university you won't last that long in consulting.
this is also stupid bc it doesn't factor in living expenses or savings every year. you suck at analyzing shit. |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:43 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32018137) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:45 PM Author: dun wonderful double fault university learn how to do proper analysis and maybe I'll hire you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32018157) |
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Date: February 14th, 2017 10:02 PM Author: Startled institution gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32624328) |
Date: November 29th, 2016 1:08 PM Author: excitant sinister weed whacker either way, stfu about it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015612) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:11 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015640) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:46 PM Author: dun wonderful double fault university while we're at it can you bash your head against the sidewalk enough times so you aren't capable of poasting anymore? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32018164) |
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Date: November 30th, 2016 3:03 AM Author: yellow idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32021670) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:09 PM Author: Orchid church gunner yfwgi but it's unlikely you'll end up in biglaw given your age (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015619) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:11 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015635) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:14 PM Author: cerise beady-eyed range ceo It kind of is, though the benefit is marginal past 2 yrs. on the other hand, you're at a huge disadvantage trying to pull allnighters fixing commas in your 30s and being a fuckboy to seniors your age. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015667) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:41 PM Author: contagious old irish cottage idea he suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015868) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:22 PM Author: orange dashing nowag What year did you graduate UG? If you will be ~28 at OCI you'll be fine IME, idk what these posters are talking about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015717) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:38 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish Would be 34 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015835) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:43 PM Author: orange dashing nowag Yeah plenty of people at my non-HYS t14 were around that age. Average entering age is like 26 or something, I was on the young end obviously as KJD. "Top" OCI outcomes of my friend group were a current 30yr old going SullCrom, 29 yr old going to WC and a 30 yr old ex military bro going to Gibson Dunn LA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015878) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:43 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015885) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:45 PM Author: orange dashing nowag They're right about the senior associates though, but ymmv ofcourse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015890) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:51 PM Author: Razzle painfully honest corner How was northwestern (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015929) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:56 PM Author: orange dashing nowag CCN, hoe. I'll start saying t6 like a true faggot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015971) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:00 PM Author: Stirring wagecucks How was NYU? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015996) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:02 PM Author: orange dashing nowag Is that one still better than shiTTTcago? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016022) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:12 PM Author: dull resort volcanic crater Have you even taken the lsat yet/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015644) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:12 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish Jesus not the official but I know the lsat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015651) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:13 PM Author: dull resort volcanic crater take the real lsat, find out what you get, then decide (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015656) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:19 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish Ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015700) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:21 PM Author: Odious stage messiness depends on what law school you get into
Btw, how sure are you of your progression in consulTTTing |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:27 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish It would be a t13 if I go
Not sure man. It's not hard work, just tedious and a bit mind numbing
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:27 PM Author: provocative heaven fanboi lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015763) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:40 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish Ljl at my shittttty life right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015851) |
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Date: November 30th, 2016 9:06 AM Author: aphrodisiac parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32022265) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2017 2:44 PM Author: bossy hairraiser menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#33837389) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:28 PM Author: mewling jew stead debt should be $250-300k. also need to factor in interest obviously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015769) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:36 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish Dammit Donny
I'm not paying full freight to go to LS |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:47 PM Author: mewling jew stead that's what you say now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015903) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:37 PM Author: provocative heaven fanboi also kinda strong assumption on in house 3 years in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015826) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:47 PM Author: Exhilarant becky True but assuming more biglaw makes the model seem more pro law school.
Also sum borrowed =/= sum repaid. If you borrow 115k you're paying back far more than 115 |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:55 PM Author: Translucent aromatic shrine moar biglaw = better life, lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32019931) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:40 PM Author: Orchid church gunner yfwgi but have you considered going to b-school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015849) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:41 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015863) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:46 PM Author: Orchid church gunner yfwgi but are you aware that law school may only get you above the $200k bump for two or three years and then seriously impair your ability to ever get back there again? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015896) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:49 PM Author: excitant sinister weed whacker lol at law school guaranteeing $200k+ in salary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015915) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:50 PM Author: orange dashing nowag HE JUST WONT LISTEN (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015918) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:52 PM Author: excitant sinister weed whacker honestly, I want him to go just so I can see how he reacts after he figures out law school isn't all its cracked up to be (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015938) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:54 PM Author: orange dashing nowag and by "not cracked up to be", we mean an absolute fucking scam where everyone hopes that they can transition "to the business side". Whatever though, we tried. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015957) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:55 PM Author: excitant sinister weed whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015965) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:51 PM Author: Razzle painfully honest corner Start the in-house salary at 250 Also assume four years of biglaw
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:52 PM Author: orange dashing nowag Dude wtf. No way 250k in-house is even remotely guaranteed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015942) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:54 PM Author: Razzle painfully honest corner In this market of you pick the right practice area it's a safe assumption (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015953) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:03 PM Author: vivacious sandwich property You need 5-7 years of biglaw, plus good firm, and you will still be looking for a year or so at lower payingin house
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:03 PM Author: Razzle painfully honest corner (shittigator) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016033) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:14 PM Author: vivacious sandwich property Nah, they need like 8 to 10 years biglaw and most won't get inhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016503) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:15 PM Author: orange dashing nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016515) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:35 PM Author: provocative heaven fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016636) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:41 PM Author: jade parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32019800) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:53 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish We're going to make peterman great again!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015949) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:52 PM Author: misanthropic lodge Suicide is painless brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015933) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:52 PM Author: mewling jew stead law isn't fun. just work your chill consulting job and find some good hobbies. living for work is TTT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015941) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:53 PM Author: bossy hairraiser menage you need to build in probabilities for these things
not everyone gets biglaw |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:54 PM Author: Razzle painfully honest corner Assuming t14 90% of people who want biglaw get it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015955) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:55 PM Author: orange dashing nowag This is not true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015966) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:56 PM Author: Razzle painfully honest corner In today's market it definitely is fag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015972) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:59 PM Author: orange dashing nowag (GULC 2L still hoping for the best) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32015988) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:02 PM Author: Razzle painfully honest corner Last year 85% of CLS oci participants got an offer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016016) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:03 PM Author: orange dashing nowag Oh wow, #4 school, great metric for the t14.
"55.1% of all graduates secured job offers by graduation."
GULC 2014 |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:37 PM Author: Stirring wagecucks 44.1% (BL+FC, GULC 2015)
https://www.lstreports.com/compare/gulc/berkeley/michigan/
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:14 PM Author: orange dashing nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016507) |
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Date: February 14th, 2017 9:53 PM Author: garnet spectacular pozpig address lol horrible if tru (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32624256) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:04 PM Author: gaped location Right. Your "90% of t14" is way too high. Gulc is the biggest school in the T14 and it probably doesn't get 50% in biglaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016036) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:05 PM Author: Razzle painfully honest corner Gulc is a special case though. Cornell has similar offer rates. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016052) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:23 PM Author: Anal Hateful Locale 80% of T6 is more like it. The people who "didn't want it" and "always planned to do public interest" are lying. HTH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016562) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:01 PM Author: provocative heaven fanboi eh, it's a pretty high probability. not saying you will get a job you enjoy or a practice group you want, but pretty much anyone in t14 who doestn have debilitating aspergers can get some kind of amlaw250 firm - look at TMF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016005) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:05 PM Author: orange dashing nowag Bottom 30% was still precarious at my school, but you're right. I think 90% is a little overblown though, a few people "realized they didn't want biglaw" around Sept 20th (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016051) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:08 PM Author: provocative heaven fanboi fair. tbf should probably knock out GULC too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016081) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:06 PM Author: mewling jew stead leave dork enlightenment alone, asshole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016058) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:07 PM Author: bossy hairraiser menage these numbers are more appropriate for v100 than 250 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016070) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:42 PM Author: Stirring wagecucks Only T5 gets anywhere close to that.
CLS: 79.2% CHI: 82.7% NYU: 68.1%
https://www.lstreports.com/compare/columbia/chicago/nyu/
Note, 155 NYU 2015 grads didn't get BL or FC. There aren't THAT many PI bleeding hearts at NYU. 155.
86 CLS 2015 grads walking away without BL or FC is also sickening. 86.
34 CHI 2015 grads getting blown out is OK. |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:46 PM Author: provocative heaven fanboi what is BL/FC?
also you have to count clerks, they are most liekly qualified for biglaw |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:47 PM Author: Stirring wagecucks Big Law/Federal Clerk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016316) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:52 PM Author: Razzle painfully honest corner Those reports are post grad. I'm talking about oci participants. Many people get offers but do something besides clerking or biglaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016350) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:25 PM Author: orange dashing nowag "Many people" do not do anything except for clerking or biglaw. What kind of anecdotal bullshit are you pulling this from? 98% of 2L SAs w/ BL+FC offers accept them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016581) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:26 PM Author: Razzle painfully honest corner Go fuck urself u TTT faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016588) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:29 PM Author: orange dashing nowag Pumos are really channelling their inner 7th grader today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016603) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:25 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish (Bottom 1/3rd nyu 3L) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016583) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:01 PM Author: gaped location lol at that comically low debt figure. You know you pay interest on those loans. Don't go to law school. I told you about my experiences from a T6. The median salaries 5+ years out for recent grads are mediocre. Many have left the practice entirely. You also don't have a good handle on the odds of those paths you mapped out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016009) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:03 PM Author: bossy hairraiser menage cr
ljl @ him also assuming positive earnings in 2l and 3l |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:34 PM Author: Duck-like affirmative action What kind of consultant makes 112k at Sr. Mgr? Those titles sound like DeloiTTTe but the salaries are off.
Get into MBB and you'll be clearing 200k+ as a 2-3rd year and your exit ops are more like 250k+ |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:37 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish Yeah I'll just get MBB bro! Brb while I JUST DO get MBB
I work in a PR firm |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:44 PM Author: Duck-like affirmative action If you go MBA with previous consulting background, MBB is not hard to cop. Aside from that, even big4 consulting matches MBB on base salary. The only diff between MBB and big4 is that bonus pay takes off, and MBB has better exit opps. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016296) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:56 PM Author: aphrodisiac parlour what's their base salaries (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016376) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:13 PM Author: Duck-like affirmative action Everyone is matching McK at 152 base for post-MBA hires.
Even Deloittte makes mid 200's once you hit manager levels |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:26 PM Author: Anal Hateful Locale I'm starting to think he's just elaborate, long game B school and bulge bracket/consulting flame. The salary numbers in his OP are dumb as hell. Corpdevbots in F100 make like 2x that scale in are country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016586) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:40 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016663) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:40 PM Author: aphrodisiac parlour Hmm seems like it's better to be a sales Chad pulling down 400k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32018099) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:50 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish JUST DO! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32018203) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:34 PM Author: Razzle painfully honest corner Working for big 4 consulting is kind of pathetic though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016629) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:37 PM Author: Duck-like affirmative action The exit opps are not quite as lucrative as biglaw, but have much higher probability of success. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016646) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:40 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish I work in gov consulting, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016669) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:43 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish how so? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32018126) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:47 PM Author: Khaki hyperactive ratface goyim you have to factor in a recession/depression. You think you can land those jobs easily in a downturn economy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016317) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:50 PM Author: fear-inspiring theater This is meaningless without probability weightings. Your chances of $180k in house after 3 years is about 10%. Your chance of biglaw is higher, maybe 75% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016331) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:14 PM Author: vivacious sandwich property Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016506) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:28 PM Author: provocative heaven fanboi his chance of biglaw right now is like 5%
if he takes the LSAT and gets a 170+, it probably jumps to 50%+
of course, he ist just gonna keep posting this for the next 3 years instead of taking the freaki nLSAT |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:24 PM Author: bateful immigrant point DO NOT GO. STAY AS A CONSULTANT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016571) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:34 PM Author: White market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016633) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:35 PM Author: orange dashing nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016638) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:27 PM Author: bossy hairraiser menage peterman crying losing hoap itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016591) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:28 PM Author: Anal Hateful Locale If you have autism-linked OCD to the point of needing medical interventions (and based on your poasting history there's like a 35% chance that you do), then go to law school and gun your dick off. If not, you'd be a moron to not go to b school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016593) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:38 PM Author: White market wouldn't getting an MBA be better? Did you score 170+ on the LSAT and have a 3.7+ GPA? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016650) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:47 PM Author: orange dashing nowag He hasn't taken it yet lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016721) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:39 PM Author: White market also how to cop consulting gig? t20 ls bottom of class here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016656) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:39 PM Author: excitant sinister weed whacker It's crazy that 90% of people in this thread are telling him not to go and he'll still convince himself that it's a good idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016659) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:42 PM Author: diverse naked theater stage I made the decision to go to LS because I had nothing else, u wanting to go is just because you have a faggot mentality (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016684) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:45 PM Author: bossy hairraiser menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32016704) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 5:44 PM Author: Startled institution gaping TTT.
No accounting for chances of failure and success.
No accounting for consequences of failure. Failed consulting to law (or something else) is possible. If you fail at law, you're dog food -- the cheap Walmart brand.
No accounting for income/hour. |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:37 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish JESUS this thread ballooned while I was going through the THIRD ITERATION of a powerpoint deck for SHREW BOSS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32018075) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:39 PM Author: bossy hairraiser menage little did you know that your hold was being BLOWN OUT as you were (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32018090) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:40 PM Author: Stirring wagecucks I think he just skulks around with a permanently prolapsed ass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32018104) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:43 PM Author: aphrodisiac parlour Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32018127) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:49 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish LOL NO:
ITT:
-A guy that thinks all MBA grads make 152k; thinks that copping MBB post-MBA isnt hard; that MBB jobs are more desirable than biglaw
-Poasters throwing around GULC despite my EXPLICIT declaration that I would not attend GULC
-Poasters assuming I would take out 250-300k in loans despite my EXPLICIT declaration that I would not attend LS at full sticker
-No one recognizing that GOVERNMENT CONSULTING HAS LITTLE TO NO EXIT OPPS/and is probably the most tttt of any "white collar" industry
-No one recognizing that LS would allow me to GTFO of DC
-No one recognizing that Law can ACTUALLY be interesting/useful in some life/career situations |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:10 PM Author: bossy hairraiser menage you:
- assuming that getting into a competitive mba program is a probable outcome for you
- assuming that getting a job at mbb, some of the more prestigious businesses in the world, will be "easy" for you because some dude on the internet said these are not hard jobs to get
- assuming that, if you went through with the LS application process and received some acceptances but no good scholarships, you would have the wherewithal and clarity of mind to walk away from your acceptances rather than burden yourself with 250-300k in loans because your unbearable and insufferable angst will not let you walk away from your special little law school acceptance letter
- assuming that you will outgun all of the other gunner snowflakes at your law school and get biglaw
- assuming that it will go well
- assuming that you will get a well-paid in-house gig just like that out of biglaw and live happily ever after
you've simply cherrypicked a few nice-sounding nuggets from a thread which is overwhelmingly critical and belittling of your thinking.
underlying all of this is your denial that your life will proceed unto some unprestigious end, which conflicts with the mentality with which you were brought up, which tells you that you are special and must do something prestigious
even if you went to law, you would be disillusioned with it quickly, realize the financial outcome is not much better than what you would have had if you continued with what you have now, and realize that nobody thinks much the better of you for being a middling lawyer
you simply have to come to terms with the fact that society does not give a shit about 99.9999% of people, and that you will die and rot as an unremarkable bundle of cells which will be forgotten five years after you die - the same realization that the other 99.9999% of people on this earth must come to
but you can't let yourself do that yet because you think you're special, so you'll continue to draft contrived arguments and excel spreadsheets to justify going to law school, none of which are grounded in reality but which are simply the fruits of your continued grasping at straws, hoping to once and for all find something that tells you that yes, you can be something too - which you can't, and which 99.9999% of people can't.
the sooner you learn that, and the sooner you stop rationalizing your romantic hopes, the better. |
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Date: November 30th, 2016 3:30 AM Author: bossy hairraiser menage ADDENDUM (and i reiterate that you are flame and have always been, but i will humor you):
your problem is also that you can't stop seeking validation because you have absolutely no sense of what you want in life and therefore spend your days begging others to tell you what is "the right thing to do"
the right thing to do is whatever you value in life
if you are honestly so vain that what you value in life is the superficial (and minuscule, probably nonexistent) prestige that comes along with being able to tell someone that you're a lawyer, then fucking do it (though i pity you if this is the case)
if you value something else, do something else
but at this point you're probably more knowledgeable about the factual pros and cons of going to law school than perhaps anyone in the history of the board
*your* problem is that you don't know how to give yourself a set of values and goals and how to be content and confident in them as your own.
one day you talk about going to law school. the next, continuing with your work. the next, moving to portland to become a bartender.
it is clear that you have absolutely zero vision of what you want your life to be, and lack the ability to think seriously about what *you* value and what *you* espouse in this life.
no more information is going to help you in deciding whether you should go to law school. you know the facts (though you appear to be in denial of some of them in hopes of justifying going to law school).
but you are clearly a hollow human being who has no sense of himself whatsoever and who is therefore forced to turn to sources of external validation for a sense of meaning in life.
and this is why you are so drawn to law - your life is meaningless now because you don't know how to give yourself meaning, and you think that pursuing some nice, socially-espoused white-collar profession might give you meaning again.
but you fail to see that the problem is not your profession now - it is *you* - because regardless of whether you are a lawyer or a mailman, you lack the ability to sense meaning in your life, and this will not change if you become a lawyer. you will still feel empty, just with fewer hours to yourself and more debt to pay.
either find meaning in something or admit that life is meaningless and stop grasping outside of yourself. |
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Date: February 1st, 2017 12:34 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32518484) |
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Date: November 30th, 2016 9:12 AM Author: bateful immigrant point PWN PWN PWN (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32022311) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:43 PM Author: Fluffy multi-colored roommate stfu peterman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32018130) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:45 PM Author: Stirring wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32018151) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:39 PM Author: jade parlor Listen to me closely. You will not get biglaw. Counting on that is ridiculous. Counting on that kind of in-house salary after three years of biglaw is ridiculous. Even if meant for flame and attention, if one part of your lizard brain hopes they are plausible, then your delusions are eventually going to overwhelm your rational judgment. You need to refasten yourself to reality before you slide over the edge. Persistent flame is often the result of latent desire.
You will likely end up at GW, eagerly pursuing GULC's night program transfer stats at every opportunity, your eye on the prize, such as it is. Then you will barely finish top 1/3 even though your classmates are mostly retards. That is because you are also not that smart and you likely don't have the drive to out-compete the true grinders. You have no idea what you're dealing with.
You will do nothing 1L summer. 2L summer you might get to clerk for free for a county trial court judge or break your ass at some pseudo-shitlaw insurance defense factory that doesn't have an actual hiring program. Or god help you, some bumfuck prosecutor's office where you will gain valuable experience aping the other knuckle-dragging $50K/yr junior prosecutors as you push paper on traffic infractions.
Maybe you bust your ass and game your course load after 1L. You become a citation slave on some awful secondary journal. You pad your resume with every dumbfuck clinic and useless student group your LS has to offer. 6 months post-graduation you might secure an entry-level gig at the Maryland AG's office dealing with assembly line health and social services cases. You will make $56K and live in some dystopian massive apartment complex in Silver Spring or wherever your god awful satellite office is located. You will be grateful and relieved for this job because it has healthcare and at least you're not prosecuting DUIs, churning out blue collar divorces, or most likely of all, fully unemployed. You will have minimum $150Kish in debt for your grand efforts and three wasted years. You will never make a great deal of money or achieve much as a lawyer. You will be on the wrong side of 40.
Go learn a trade if you want quality of life and decent money. 1/20 or worse that you even sniff biglaw or something nearly as lucrative at any time during your 'career.' You must get over yourself. You have nothing special to offer this industry, you probably don't have the stones for real trial work (most don't no matter what you think of yourself), and nobody gives a fuck about a late 30s consultant who only wants to be in the profession because he thinks it's going to pay him handsomely despite his total dearth of value.
Law schools are filled with people like you. Law schools are filled with miserable and unfulfilled people who all think they're precious and the world owes them something. Stop listening to the siren song of your own ego and think about what you actually want to do with the short amount of time you have left on this planet, you foolish, self-important little man.
Sincerely brother, I hope that helps. Don't do it. All you'll ever hear form me on the subject. |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:41 PM Author: provocative heaven fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32019805) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:50 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish Eat shit faggot! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32019872) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:51 PM Author: jade parlor "feel free to critique or lay comment" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32019893) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:53 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish http://imgur.com/a/2freR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32019903) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:54 PM Author: jade parlor That's the guy who whipped your ass in contracts because he knows nobody particularly wants or needs to hire him. And he'll never, ever get anyone to service his chocobar if he can't throw modestly UMC cash around. While you were jerking off to Instragram accounts you ferreted out with Tinder matches and demanding that XO rate your hairline at 3:30 in the morning, he was memorizing and re-organizing his securities reg outline for the fourth time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32019915) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:59 PM Author: orange dashing nowag Scathing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32019977) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:29 AM Author: bossy hairraiser menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#33835722) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:55 PM Author: provocative heaven fanboi in peterman's defense he claims to have a 3.9 from ivy or wahtefver so he's a grinder. as long as he cops a 170+ (which is the real sticking point, he's too pussy to take the lsat) his biglaw chances are fairly good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32019925) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:57 PM Author: vivacious sandwich property To be fair,
He got a 3.9 in Poli Sci or some other bullshit degree. |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:00 PM Author: orange dashing nowag Just like 95% of HLS? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32019985) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:00 PM Author: vivacious sandwich property I'm saying that a 3.9 in sleeping and drinking all day studies doesn't really show whether he's a grinder or not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32019989) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:03 PM Author: orange dashing nowag Judging by his general lack of friends around the country, I'm gonna go ahead and assume he wasn't a fratstar getting drunk 5 times a week haha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32020005) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:59 PM Author: jade parlor If he really has a 3.9, then he has a better chance of attending a decent school.
But I don't think a high GPA in genderqueer studies from Dartmouth or wherever is a strong predictor of success in law school. Grade inflation and relaxed standards is par for most non-STEM majors at Ivies. The sort of precocious academic skills that might get a 17 year old admitted to Brown don't really translate when he's dealing law school grinders and the handful of truly bright people in every class.
Also, frankly, don't entirely believe much of what peterman says about himself. 3.9 at X Ivy could very easily be 3.64 at Holy Cross, which means four months from now he'll start demanding that XO tell him $18K/yr at Tulane is a great investment. |
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Date: November 30th, 2016 2:25 AM Author: aphrodisiac parlour Holy Cross is a FINE school brother--a CATHOLIC IVY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32021585) |
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Date: November 30th, 2016 10:35 PM Author: Geriatric spot LOL
holy cross - top destination for working class brookline turds and catholic school dweebs from the midwest. HEY GUYS MY KID GOT INTO HOLY CRAASS NOT BAAHD HE WAS A STRAIGHT AAAR STUDENT |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:00 PM Author: Stirring wagecucks "... 6 months post-graduation you might secure an entry-level gig at the Maryland AG's office dealing with assembly line health and social services cases. You will make $56K and live in some dystopian massive apartment complex in Silver Spring or wherever your god awful satellite office is located."
Too close to home? JFC u r so DONE HERE. |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:01 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish Bro u rlly took offense to my bottom 1/3rd at NYU comment. You should keep your cards closer to ur chest! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32019990) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:04 PM Author: orange dashing nowag WE ARE TRYING TO HELP YOU FAGGOT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32020011) |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:13 PM Author: Stirring wagecucks I'm happy to admit that I'm below median at CCN, where I have a $90,000 scholly and where I'm biglaw secure.
You need to stop running this flame into the ashes. |
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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:14 PM Author: insane tanning salon death wish BIGLAW SECURITY! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32020106) |
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Date: November 30th, 2016 3:45 AM Author: underhanded kitty cat giraffe cot DAMN peterman's asshold got BLOWN OUT itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32021711) |
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Date: November 30th, 2016 9:10 AM Author: excitant sinister weed whacker wow so Peterman went pumo because of this thread? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32022294) |
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Date: November 30th, 2016 10:37 PM Author: Geriatric spot he's a manic little twink. whenever he gets smacked down hard he'll pumo up for a few hours while he licks his wounds before realizing he's far too addicted to the bantam weight anonymous internet attention he gets here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2).#32028351) |
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