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If you still own a Tesla your insurance is about to go up
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Date: March 19th, 2025 9:36 AM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. https://insideevs.com/news/753730/tesla-insurance-vandalism-elon-musk/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5696499&forum_id=2).#48761641) |
Date: March 19th, 2025 9:55 AM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5696499&forum_id=2).#48761698) |
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Date: March 19th, 2025 9:58 AM Author: Juan Eighty *diapered tuna winks at you as you open your 2025 insurance quote* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5696499&forum_id=2).#48761707) |
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Date: March 19th, 2025 10:28 AM Author: .,.,.,,.,,..,,,.,.,...,.,,.,. Why would you own a POS EV? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5696499&forum_id=2).#48761793) |
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Date: March 19th, 2025 10:32 AM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. EVs are fine Teslas just have shit quality (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5696499&forum_id=2).#48761810) |
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Date: March 19th, 2025 10:35 AM Author: ..,,....,,.,..,,..,,...,...,,....,..., No they don't they're the best ones actually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5696499&forum_id=2).#48761823) |
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Date: March 19th, 2025 10:56 AM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. Grok, what are the top EV brands in terms of overall build quality?
Here’s the ranking based on problems per 100 vehicles, from fewest to most, using the J.D. Power study as a primary benchmark, supplemented by brand performance trends:
1. BMW - Approximate PP100: ~186-200 • BMW’s EVs, like the i4 and iX, benefit from the brand’s strong showing in dependability. Porsche scored 186 PP100 in the J.D. Power study, and BMW’s premium brand performance is typically competitive, often slightly better or on par with mass-market leaders. Consumer Reports also praises BMW EVs for build quality, suggesting fewer issues than the BEV average of 223 PP100. 2. Porsche - PP100: 186 • Porsche ranks third among premium brands in the J.D. Power study with 186 PP100, reflecting high dependability for models like the Taycan. Its reputation for engineering excellence supports a low problem rate, despite the complexity of EV systems. 3. Hyundai - Approximate PP100: ~200-210 • Hyundai doesn’t have a specific PP100 listed in the study for its EVs alone, but its mass-market reliability is strong, often aligning with or slightly better than the industry average of 202 PP100. The Ioniq 5 and 6 score well in Consumer Reports for reliability, suggesting they fall below the BEV average of 223 PP100. 4. Kia - Approximate PP100: ~200-215 • Kia, closely tied to Hyundai, likely mirrors its sibling’s performance. The EV6 and EV9 are noted for quality in reviews, but mass-market brands saw a 16 PP100 increase in 2025 due to software issues. Kia’s PP100 is estimated near Hyundai’s, slightly above the industry average but below the BEV norm. 5. Rivian - Approximate PP100: ~220-230 • Rivian, as a newer EV maker, isn’t explicitly ranked in the J.D. Power study, but BEVs improved by 33 PP100 year-over-year to 223 PP100. Rivian’s R1T and R1S have faced initial quality hiccups typical of startups, yet owner feedback and updates suggest they’re aligning with or slightly above the BEV average. 6. Lucid - Approximate PP100: ~225-235 • Lucid also lacks a specific PP100 in the study, but as a luxury EV brand, it’s likely near the BEV average of 223 PP100 or slightly higher. Early production challenges with the Air have been noted, though its premium build may mitigate some issues over time. 7. Tesla - Approximate PP100: ~230-250 • Tesla’s dependability is trickier to pin down precisely. The J.D. Power study doesn’t isolate Tesla’s PP100, but BEVs at 223 PP100 include Tesla’s significant market share. Consumer Reports often ranks Tesla lower for reliability due to build quality and tech issues, and posts on X (e.g., from March 13, 2025) claim Tesla scored last among EVs. This suggests a PP100 notably above the BEV average, possibly 230-250.
Notes on the Ranking:
• Data Gaps: J.D. Power provides brand-specific PP100 for Porsche (186), Lexus (140), and others, but not all EV-focused brands like Tesla, Rivian, or Lucid are individually detailed. I’ve estimated based on BEV trends (223 PP100) and brand reputation. • Context: The 2025 study reflects 2022 models, so newer 2025 models (e.g., Kia EV9, Rivian updates) may improve over time. BEVs have narrowed the gap with gas vehicles (200 PP100), showing progress. • Assumptions: Tesla’s higher ranking for problems aligns with sentiment on X and Consumer Reports’ critiques, though exact PP100 is inferred. Hyundai and Kia benefit from mass-market reliability trends, while BMW and Porsche leverage premium engineering.
This ranking prioritizes Porsche and BMW for fewer problems, followed by Hyundai and Kia, with Rivian and Lucid in the middle, and Tesla trailing due to reported reliability challenges. If you need a deeper dive into a specific brand, let me know! |
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Date: March 19th, 2025 10:34 AM Author: .,..,,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,..,.., Their insurance already was sky high because they are shoddy cars with PURE SHIT service and repair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5696499&forum_id=2).#48761817) |
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Date: March 19th, 2025 10:39 AM Author: biglaw associate asking if link is worksafe @ 11pm "Tesla owners could soon start paying higher insurance premiums because of Elon Musk's political antics"
So, Elon siding with Trump and wanting to cut government spending is causing Teslas to spontaneously combust? |
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Date: March 19th, 2025 10:56 AM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. pretty much (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5696499&forum_id=2).#48761904) |
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Date: March 19th, 2025 10:58 AM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. Fair: blacks paying higher insurance rates for living in areas with higher rates of vandalism
Not fair: whites paying higher insurance rates for driving vehicles with higher rates of vandalism |