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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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racy friendly grandma chapel
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
orange persian
  12/16/25
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racy friendly grandma chapel
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
infuriating underhanded pozpig halford
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
orange persian
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
infuriating underhanded pozpig halford
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
orange persian
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
infuriating underhanded pozpig halford
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
racy friendly grandma chapel
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
orange persian
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
infuriating underhanded pozpig halford
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
orange persian
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
infuriating underhanded pozpig halford
  12/17/25
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racy friendly grandma chapel
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orange persian
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
geriatric new version love of her life
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
orange persian
  12/16/25
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geriatric new version love of her life
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
glittery twisted dingle berry travel guidebook
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
orange persian
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
violent magenta stead idea he suggested
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
orange persian
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Obsidian concupiscible roommate
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orange persian
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racy friendly grandma chapel
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Big Chest-beating Institution
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Mint Fighting Locale Deer Antler
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orange persian
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Big Chest-beating Institution
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racy friendly grandma chapel
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racy friendly grandma chapel
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
infuriating underhanded pozpig halford
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Fluffy mind-boggling whorehouse brethren
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: racy friendly grandma chapel



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: orange persian

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: racy friendly grandma chapel

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: infuriating underhanded pozpig halford

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: orange persian

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: infuriating underhanded pozpig halford

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: orange persian

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: infuriating underhanded pozpig halford

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: racy friendly grandma chapel

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: orange persian

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: infuriating underhanded pozpig halford

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: orange persian

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: infuriating underhanded pozpig halford

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: racy friendly grandma chapel



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: orange persian



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: geriatric new version love of her life

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: orange persian

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: geriatric new version love of her life



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: glittery twisted dingle berry travel guidebook

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: orange persian

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: violent magenta stead idea he suggested

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: orange persian

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Obsidian concupiscible roommate

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: orange persian



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: racy friendly grandma chapel



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Big Chest-beating Institution

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Mint Fighting Locale Deer Antler

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: orange persian



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Big Chest-beating Institution



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: racy friendly grandma chapel



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: racy friendly grandma chapel



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: infuriating underhanded pozpig halford

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Fluffy mind-boggling whorehouse brethren

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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