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why did (((they))) fear the sega dreamcast?
| Self-centered Personal Credit Line Becky | 12/03/18 |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 6:52 PM Author: Self-centered Personal Credit Line Becky shut down the greatest console of all time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#37344710) |
Date: December 3rd, 2018 6:53 PM Author: purple electric kitty cat Fred Durst (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#37344715) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 6:53 PM Author: sooty nubile space truly the greatest console of all time
seriously sucked that it didnt dominate |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 6:54 PM Author: Abnormal Voyeur Range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#37344726) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 6:55 PM Author: Gold Toaster iirc poor marketing, notoriously hard to develop for, timing, cost, couldn't compete w PS1 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#37344737) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 6:56 PM Author: Self-centered Personal Credit Line Becky *leans into mic* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#37344739) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:07 PM Author: Gold Toaster I was wrong about developers that was the Saturn but I had a DC and it just couldn't compete w PS1 third party games and then the PS2 really killed it off |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:18 PM Author: umber bat shit crazy piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#37345242) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:20 PM Author: Contagious House sega consistently made dumb choices (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#37345249) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:22 PM Author: tan filthy rigpig explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#37345261) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:23 PM Author: sooty nubile space literally dozens of videos on youtube explaining said failure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#37345266) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:28 PM Author: indecent fat ankles macaca (((j00tube))) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#37345301) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:29 PM Author: Contagious House they were competitive (but still a laggard) during the genesis era
game gear was garbage. no games and terrible garbage battery life.
saturn was their biggest fuck up. expensive, hard-to-develop-for system that didn't have killer games like ff vii or gran turismo. this arguably killed sega.
dreamcast was launched way too early and wasn't nearly as competitive with the ps2 in terms of power or games. |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:09 PM Author: tan filthy rigpig ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#37345572) |
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Date: December 12th, 2022 6:27 PM Author: Beady-eyed international law enforcement agency mood The idea that the dreamcast launched "early" is ludicrous. In fact, it had the strongest launch lineup of all time. The PS2 on the other hand was roundly criticized for its launch lineup. And the claim that the Dreamcast wasn't competitive with PS2 on "power" is dubious when Dreamcast games generally looked better than PS2 games when the PS2 launched and for quite a while after. I'd have to go check the release timeline but my recollection is that PS2 had already been declared the "victor" long before it pulled ahead on games.
Now, the real reasons Dreamcast failed:
-The retail support was terrible. The (((dedicated game stores))) like EB and Gamestop were actively sabotaging Dreamcast, encouraging all customers to skip it and preorder PS2 instead and making fantastical claims about the PS2's power. The amount and prominence of shelf space in big box retailers like Target and Best Buy was also lacking. They treated the system as an afterthought from the very start. How many stores do you remember going to that had working Dreamcast demo units? Dreamcast games were light years beyond PS1 and N64, which looked like complete ass in comparison, but that was never really put in front of the consumer.
-EA turning on Sega fucked them hard and set the stage for other third parties to pull out. Dreamcast had a mass exodus of (((third party support))) while sales and its game lineup were both still pretty strong. These third parties essentially annointed Sony behind the scenes, rather than it being a customer choice based on "power" and "games."
-Launching on the same day as FF8 surely didn't help. New Final Fantasy games were mega-events back then, but the above two issues were much greater factors.
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Date: December 12th, 2022 6:30 PM Author: Apoplectic Shitlib Game gear was awesome, used like 12 batteries though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#45622920) |
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Date: December 12th, 2022 6:35 PM Author: Beady-eyed international law enforcement agency mood I did a new run of Defenders of the Oasis every family vacation. 180 system (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#45622939) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:23 PM Author: Overrated charcoal boiling water property Dudes in my dorm had tons of pirated games on CDRs. Probably didn’t help. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#37345264) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2018 8:25 PM Author: Supple ticket booth factory reset button hard for anything to go toe to toe w/ ps1, it had so many fucking games. n64 was like 'boutique console' that ppl had in addition to ps1s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#37345280) |
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Date: December 12th, 2022 5:57 PM Author: Slippery Sepia Theatre Sweet Tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#45622781) |
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Date: December 12th, 2022 6:35 PM Author: Hyperventilating karate mediation I loved my Dreamcast, but open license/development PlayStation smoked them on 3rd party game library, and Nintendo smoked them on first party game library.
I still think about Shenmue sometimes. |
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Date: December 12th, 2022 7:06 PM Author: Blue Stage sega cd was the goat sega system (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#45623160) |
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Date: December 12th, 2022 8:52 PM Author: titillating legal warrant tattoo A triumph (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#45623974) |
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Date: December 12th, 2022 7:14 PM Author: titillating legal warrant tattoo Important thread. Imo Sega confused audiences, but not in the way traditionally described. The Genesis add-ons were nbd, but Saturn was literally the polar opposite of Genesis. They went from marketing exclusively to Scumbags to exclusively Losers and everyone was incredibly confused. By the time Dreamcast released, N64 fans were admitting defeat w/r/t the genand were getting PS1s, and PS1 bros were relishing their Win in that gen and preparing for the PS2. There was no room for Dreamcast. It was a better product when it came to arcade style games for sure but nobody cared. It’s never been about the games. It’s sour Consoles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#45623220) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 9:35 AM Author: ethereal \\(> ' v ' <)// tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4148227&forum_id=2).#49462158) |