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Gemini has gotten better at shitlaw

I painstakingly had gpt and Claude separately review a hosti...
big trump supporter
  07/08/25
If all you need is draft language, you can run Gemma on a $2...
Beady-eyed clown parlour
  07/08/25
Gemma is not anywhere close to 2.5 pro. Completely different...
Crimson school cafeteria cuckold
  07/08/25
For writing shitlaw motions and pleadings it's fine. I'm on ...
Beady-eyed clown parlour
  07/08/25
oh great, now we will have two rats suing each other with an...
disgusting foreskin
  07/08/25
No, legal writing will just become less SHITTY than it curre...
Beady-eyed clown parlour
  07/08/25
It’s fucking awesome at it. Been paying for Claude too...
Orange adventurous lettuce
  07/08/25
Yeah it's awesome at shitlaw I think it would get wrecke...
big trump supporter
  07/08/25
It gets antitrust up and down, if that's complicated
Beady-eyed clown parlour
  07/08/25
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Orange adventurous lettuce
  07/09/25
The gemini deep think model is supposed to launch soon and l...
Crimson school cafeteria cuckold
  07/08/25
what does Gemini cost?
well-lubricated hell
  07/09/25
I added it to my google workspace for like $7 per user over ...
Orange adventurous lettuce
  07/09/25
tyft
well-lubricated hell
  07/09/25
Gemini will make shitlaw attorneys obsolete. Thank god.
Azure cracking tanning salon
  07/09/25
It will make them better writers. You'll be so fucking thank...
Beady-eyed clown parlour
  07/09/25
It’s definitely made paralegals obsolete. And maybe yo...
Orange adventurous lettuce
  07/09/25
Is that what they're telling you in your 1L classes?
Spruce Lay
  07/09/25
Yes. Lots of people have dropped out. Only the thirstiest sc...
Orange adventurous lettuce
  07/09/25
Good news. Sounds like the next generation of The Stewards O...
Spruce Lay
  07/09/25
Only so many teats at which to suckle
Orange adventurous lettuce
  07/09/25
This is it. AI operates at like a 3rd year level now. You ar...
glittery apoplectic scourge upon the earth
  07/09/25
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Orange adventurous lettuce
  07/09/25
did you see the recent article about the SCOTUS litigator wh...
well-lubricated hell
  07/09/25
No that’s 180. I use it to argue with me in text and i...
Orange adventurous lettuce
  07/09/25
It's good for deposition prep. You can tell it what admissio...
Beady-eyed clown parlour
  07/09/25
Just used it to create a timeline for a 200 page police repo...
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Date: July 8th, 2025 7:38 PM
Author: big trump supporter

I painstakingly had gpt and Claude separately review a hostile client situation and draft a proposed email. Claude was more breezy and casual and GPT was robotically professional.

Had Gemini Pro 2.5 look at both drafts and pick one, it said they're both shitty and absolutely DO NOT SEND EITHER. Gave me a huge list of bulleted feedback and cited actual bar ethics / rules. I told it to just write the damn thing itself from scratch

Then I showed the Gemini draft to Claude and GPT and both were like "oh yeah that's way better than mine"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49083885)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 7:39 PM
Author: Beady-eyed clown parlour

If all you need is draft language, you can run Gemma on a $200 graphics card and get equally good results. It's just a quantized version of Gemini, and quantization doesn't really affect it's writing ability

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49083887)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 9:06 PM
Author: Crimson school cafeteria cuckold

Gemma is not anywhere close to 2.5 pro. Completely different models

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49084199)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 9:08 PM
Author: Beady-eyed clown parlour

For writing shitlaw motions and pleadings it's fine. I'm on Gemma3 12b, but Gemma2 was good enough. And no, Google didn't train two totally different LLMs but only commercialize one of them. lmao they both got trained on Google's in-house legal docs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49084213)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 7:40 PM
Author: disgusting foreskin

oh great, now we will have two rats suing each other with an army of AI agents.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49083889)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 7:51 PM
Author: Beady-eyed clown parlour

No, legal writing will just become less SHITTY than it currently is. Sorry you SUCK at it too much to appreciate the difference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49083927)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Orange adventurous lettuce

It’s fucking awesome at it. Been paying for Claude too but it beats Claude pretty regularly and sometimes just blows everything else out of the water. Got best overall on BigLaw Bench recently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49083941)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 9:01 PM
Author: big trump supporter

Yeah it's awesome at shitlaw

I think it would get wrecked at anything complicated like appeals or medmal tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49084177)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 9:06 PM
Author: Beady-eyed clown parlour

It gets antitrust up and down, if that's complicated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49084202)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Orange adventurous lettuce



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Date: July 8th, 2025 9:05 PM
Author: Crimson school cafeteria cuckold

The gemini deep think model is supposed to launch soon and looks significantly better. Going to be 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49084198)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: well-lubricated hell

what does Gemini cost?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49087451)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: Orange adventurous lettuce

I added it to my google workspace for like $7 per user over the basic plan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49087470)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: well-lubricated hell

tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49087478)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 5:02 PM
Author: Azure cracking tanning salon

Gemini will make shitlaw attorneys obsolete. Thank god.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49087472)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Beady-eyed clown parlour

It will make them better writers. You'll be so fucking thankful just for that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49087476)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 6:50 PM
Author: Orange adventurous lettuce

It’s definitely made paralegals obsolete. And maybe young associates too. Someone still has to show up in court. Would suck being fresh out of law school right now. AI will make a lot of people rethink their whole staffing situation. The ladder has been yanked up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49087792)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Spruce Lay

Is that what they're telling you in your 1L classes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49087798)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 6:54 PM
Author: Orange adventurous lettuce

Yes. Lots of people have dropped out. Only the thirstiest scholars remain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49087806)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: Spruce Lay

Good news. Sounds like the next generation of The Stewards Of The Law will be only the people who really want to be there. Who are doing it for the Love Of The Law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49087809)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: Orange adventurous lettuce

Only so many teats at which to suckle

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49087871)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 7:04 PM
Author: glittery apoplectic scourge upon the earth

This is it. AI operates at like a 3rd year level now. You are always going to need senior associates and partners to review its work. The difference is that you need to spend a few mins prompting it and you have a work product that could take a junior or paralegal multiple days to complete. Not sure how this is going to play out but AI Will definitely fuck up junior/admin staffing and the hourly billing model.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49087848)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 7:18 PM
Author: Orange adventurous lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49087872)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 7:07 PM
Author: well-lubricated hell

did you see the recent article about the SCOTUS litigator who used AI to mock out a full oral argument using a sim of his own voice? will we ever reach the point where a lawyer can vouch to the court that he trained AI to make his oral arguments for him?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49087852)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: Orange adventurous lettuce

No that’s 180. I use it to argue with me in text and it’s really helpful. It scolded me the other day when I asked it about some different options in a case. It was like “absolutely don’t even consider this one thing as an option it’s the dumbest possible thing you could do” and then wrote a long article about why and made a chart of all the choices I had and the different outcomes at various stages. It’s really useful at telling you what not to do and I think a lot of people ignore this capability

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49087884)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: Beady-eyed clown parlour

It's good for deposition prep. You can tell it what admissions you the deponent to make, what obstacles you expect etc, and game things out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49088711)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 9:11 PM
Author: marvelous fuchsia theatre tattoo

Just used it to create a timeline for a 200 page police report for me and list of witnesses with their statements. Pretty cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747770&forum_id=2).#49088293)



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Date: July 9th, 2025 11:24 PM
Author: Orange adventurous lettuce



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