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Book rec for boys ?

any books you read or wish you had read in high school? look...
pale trip parlour toaster
  12/18/25
I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderso...
hideous house
  12/18/25
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712? Reasonable price, ...
insane chocolate windowlicker sandwich
  12/18/25
...
up-to-no-good rehab haunted graveyard
  12/18/25
"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys...
Beady-eyed locale selfie
  12/19/25
this is now forever in my search history I want you dead,...
Beady-eyed locale selfie
  12/19/25
mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel
light mexican
  12/18/25
A few offhand: -On the Shortness of Life - Seneca -Sta...
Coral razzle-dazzle shitlib orchestra pit
  12/18/25
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&a...
Beady-eyed locale selfie
  12/19/25
or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of...
mind-boggling lilac voyeur knife
  12/19/25
The Illustrated Man Odyssey The International Jew 1984 M...
bearded hospital
  12/18/25
Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters
Salmon Macaca Cumskin
  12/18/25
i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer readin...
pale trip parlour toaster
  12/18/25
Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Ce...
Salmon Macaca Cumskin
  12/18/25
they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your...
pale trip parlour toaster
  12/18/25
180
Salmon Macaca Cumskin
  12/18/25
The eyes and the impossible sourdough heart of samurai...
frozen range laser beams
  12/18/25
rocket boys is 180
carnelian church building
  12/18/25
Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo
frozen range laser beams
  12/18/25
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carnelian church building
  12/19/25
weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party...
mind-boggling lilac voyeur knife
  12/22/25
CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" thos...
Orchid mood
  12/18/25
he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that&rsq...
pale trip parlour toaster
  12/18/25
The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)
anal ape
  12/18/25
ty for the recs, this is helpful i just asked him what bo...
pale trip parlour toaster
  12/18/25
Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has rea...
avocado boyish old irish cottage
  12/18/25
seconding count of monte cristo three musketeers is also ...
Indecent vibrant center famous landscape painting
  12/18/25
JackTales 🤡😳
poppy racy stage
  12/18/25
those are for reading out loud , clown
frozen range laser beams
  12/18/25
The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton https://www.amazon...
Wonderful business firm dingle berry
  12/18/25
Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz) We Were Soldiers Once… And...
pungent emerald home jew
  12/18/25
are you seriously recommending a book on manhood written by ...
Big underhanded national security agency circlehead
  12/18/25
I’m not even sure which author you’re talking ab...
pungent emerald home jew
  12/18/25
lol
Big underhanded national security agency circlehead
  12/18/25
he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers &qu...
magenta party of the first part cuck
  12/21/25
Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000
carnelian church building
  12/18/25
No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a bet...
pungent emerald home jew
  12/18/25
James Bond novels Conan (only read the flemming and howard...
Fragrant hissy fit regret
  12/18/25
The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.
Coral razzle-dazzle shitlib orchestra pit
  12/18/25
Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 ...
Fragrant hissy fit regret
  12/18/25
Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new boo...
Coral razzle-dazzle shitlib orchestra pit
  12/18/25
1. Goldfinger 2. Moonraker 3. Casino Royale 4. From Russ...
Fragrant hissy fit regret
  12/19/25
tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I th...
Coral razzle-dazzle shitlib orchestra pit
  12/21/25
cr
carnelian church building
  12/18/25
Anabasis
claret gaping
  12/18/25
...
Big underhanded national security agency circlehead
  12/18/25
Flowers for Algernon
Well-lubricated bawdyhouse mediation
  12/18/25
The Lessons of History - Will & Ariel Durant Man's Sear...
Big underhanded national security agency circlehead
  12/18/25
a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it...
Chrome Adventurous Hell Nibblets
  12/18/25
Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in ...
Offensive vigorous locus
  12/18/25
Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?) Zen and the Art of Motorc...
Purple bateful friendly grandma parlor
  12/18/25
> Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance lol
Big underhanded national security agency circlehead
  12/18/25
read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class i...
pale trip parlour toaster
  12/18/25
zorba the greek
carnelian church building
  12/18/25
...
pungent emerald home jew
  12/18/25
Several good recs already upthread. Some others: The Thin...
Orchid mood
  12/18/25
Cr. list I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit ov...
pungent emerald home jew
  12/18/25
The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorit...
Titillating public bath
  12/18/25
...
Orchid mood
  12/18/25
agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise cau...
magenta party of the first part cuck
  12/22/25
Watership Down A Day No Pigs Would Die 2nd Where the R...
Multi-colored Jewess
  12/18/25
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vermilion associate location
  12/18/25
Starship Troopers Enders Game Johnny Tremain Childhoods E...
sable odious becky
  12/18/25
A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES
Beady-eyed locale selfie
  12/19/25
Neon Bible better rec for younger kid
claret gaping
  12/19/25
abridged edgar allen poe short stories
Mint Dead Kitchen
  12/19/25
https://kommandostore.com/products/republic-of-south-africa-...
floppy stead
  12/26/25


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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: pale trip parlour toaster

any books you read or wish you had read in high school? looking for something that would be motivating / tools for life genre

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: hideous house

I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderson (Broken Sword, Three Hearts and Three Lions) Fritz Lieber (Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser) etc

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: insane chocolate windowlicker sandwich

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712?

Reasonable price, free shipping.

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: up-to-no-good rehab haunted graveyard



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:35 AM
Author: Beady-eyed locale selfie

"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys and crayons, a bubble bath, and lots of love."

-- School Library Journal

"Will undoubtedly be scooped up by families seeking queer representation in board books."

-- Kirkus

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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:42 AM
Author: Beady-eyed locale selfie

this is now forever in my search history

I want you dead, Malk Poo

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: light mexican

mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: Coral razzle-dazzle shitlib orchestra pit

A few offhand:

-On the Shortness of Life - Seneca

-Starship Troopers (the book is much better and more serious than the movie)

-Bonfire of the Vanities

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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:10 AM
Author: Beady-eyed locale selfie

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&forum_id=2#35633765

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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:32 AM
Author: mind-boggling lilac voyeur knife

or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of his vanities

toughens him up a bit.

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: bearded hospital

The Illustrated Man

Odyssey

The International Jew

1984

Meditations

The Myth of Sisyphus

Hamlet

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: Salmon Macaca Cumskin

Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: pale trip parlour toaster

i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer reading assignments



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:34 PM
Author: Salmon Macaca Cumskin

Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Celestine Prophecy, Lord of the Flies.

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: pale trip parlour toaster

they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your other recs, ty!

he just finished peak, so hatchet is a good one

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: Salmon Macaca Cumskin

180

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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:01 PM
Author: frozen range laser beams

The eyes and the impossible

sourdough

heart of samurai

artemis

rocket boys

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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: carnelian church building

rocket boys is 180

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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: frozen range laser beams

Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo

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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:34 AM
Author: carnelian church building



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: mind-boggling lilac voyeur knife

weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party scene at my rural West Virginia high school

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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: Orchid mood

CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" those by HS, especially later in HS?

My 7 year old just read--and really enjoyed--Hatchet.

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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: pale trip parlour toaster

he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that’s more his reading level

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: anal ape

The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: pale trip parlour toaster

ty for the recs, this is helpful

i just asked him what book he’s reading (we’re on a flight) and its war and peace

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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: avocado boyish old irish cottage

Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has read tons of other Russian lit and has a solid grounding in religion and philosophy.

Count of Monte Cristo is a goat novel that is also accessible and really exciting.

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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: Indecent vibrant center famous landscape painting

seconding count of monte cristo

three musketeers is also great and vastly superior to any adaptation

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: poppy racy stage

JackTales 🤡😳

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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: frozen range laser beams

those are for reading out loud , clown



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: Wonderful business firm dingle berry

The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton

https://www.amazon.com/Boy-Pink-Hair-Perez-Hilton/dp/0451234200

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:32 PM
Author: pungent emerald home jew

Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz)

We Were Soldiers Once… And Young (Moore & Galloway)

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage (Lansing)

The Way of Men (Donovan)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Big underhanded national security agency circlehead

are you seriously recommending a book on manhood written by a homo?

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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: pungent emerald home jew

I’m not even sure which author you’re talking about, though I’m 99.99% sure that it’s not Moore or Galloway

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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:41 PM
Author: Big underhanded national security agency circlehead

lol

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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: magenta party of the first part cuck

he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers "androphile," a term he uses to describe romance and sex between masculine men

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Donovan

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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: carnelian church building

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000

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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: pungent emerald home jew

No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a better idea of what it means to be a man and to experience the thrill, the triumph, of surviving impossible odds. Leadership, loyalty, discipline. And then they get home and are like, fuck it, sign me up for WWI’s trenches

My middle son needed a bit of coaching on perseverance, so we read this together and then did a HARD AS FUCK mountain bike camping trip in western NC.

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: Fragrant hissy fit regret

James Bond novels

Conan (only read the flemming and howard originals though)

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:39 PM
Author: Coral razzle-dazzle shitlib orchestra pit

The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:51 PM
Author: Fragrant hissy fit regret

Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 or so) in a summer. all were 180. I tried reading the non-flemming but its not the same. They don't write novels like that anymore.

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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Coral razzle-dazzle shitlib orchestra pit

Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new books to read.

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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Fragrant hissy fit regret

1. Goldfinger

2. Moonraker

3. Casino Royale

4. From Russia With Love

5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

the order changes based on mood but these five are in a tier above.

the rest are all solid. for example, Diamonds are Forever is my least favorite and that is still leagues better than any modern espionage novel.

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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:44 PM
Author: Coral razzle-dazzle shitlib orchestra pit

tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I think.

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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: carnelian church building

cr

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:42 PM
Author: claret gaping

Anabasis

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: Big underhanded national security agency circlehead



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: Well-lubricated bawdyhouse mediation

Flowers for Algernon

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: Big underhanded national security agency circlehead

The Lessons of History - Will & Ariel Durant

Man's Search for Meaning - Viktor Frankl

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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: Chrome Adventurous Hell Nibblets

a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it. great series for boys who like knights, politics, and violence.

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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Offensive vigorous locus

Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in the series

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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: Purple bateful friendly grandma parlor

Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?)

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

Dune

anything recent by Lawrence Millman

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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: Big underhanded national security agency circlehead

> Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

lol

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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: pale trip parlour toaster

read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class in hs. book was so so but class was 180

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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: carnelian church building

zorba the greek



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: pungent emerald home jew



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: Orchid mood

Several good recs already upthread. Some others:

The Things They Carried

Mark Twain--starting with Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn

1984

The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (and throw in The Hobbit)

Infinite Jest

Moby Dick

Blood Meridian

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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:30 PM
Author: pungent emerald home jew

Cr. list

I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit overexposed to the hopelessly feminized librarian space for a time and was looked down upon as kind of trite. But it’s 180

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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Titillating public bath

The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorite. You shouldn't look down on librarian recs. This is all they do

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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: Orchid mood



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: magenta party of the first part cuck

agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise caution with the second and third sentences just given that the values may not be stoic masculine warrior

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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Multi-colored Jewess

Watership Down

A Day No Pigs Would Die

2nd Where the Red Fern Grows

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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:33 PM
Author: vermilion associate location



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:40 PM
Author: sable odious becky

Starship Troopers

Enders Game

Johnny Tremain

Childhoods End

Rama



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:16 AM
Author: Beady-eyed locale selfie

A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES

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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:11 AM
Author: claret gaping

Neon Bible better rec for younger kid

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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:23 AM
Author: Mint Dead Kitchen

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Date: December 26th, 2025 12:37 AM
Author: floppy stead

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