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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Excitant rehab selfie
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
concupiscible sanctuary
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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nyuug
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Bespoke talking set
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Shivering thriller corner
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Bespoke talking set
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Shivering thriller corner
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Bespoke talking set
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
titillating point
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dark nudist piazza
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Self-centered arousing meetinghouse preventive strike
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cq
Claret 180 feces deer antler
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
Bright startling national security agency
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
titillating point
  07/02/25
i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
Supple duck-like volcanic crater
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
drab indirect expression internal respiration
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
Henna temple patrolman
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Excitant rehab selfie

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: concupiscible sanctuary

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: concupiscible sanctuary

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: concupiscible sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: concupiscible sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: concupiscible sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: concupiscible sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: concupiscible sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: concupiscible sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: concupiscible sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: concupiscible sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: concupiscible sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49117359)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Bespoke talking set

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Shivering thriller corner

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Bespoke talking set

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Shivering thriller corner

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Bespoke talking set

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: titillating point

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Filthy indecent garrison gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: dark nudist piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Self-centered arousing meetinghouse preventive strike

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Claret 180 feces deer antler

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Bright startling national security agency

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: titillating point

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Supple duck-like volcanic crater

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: drab indirect expression internal respiration

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Henna temple patrolman

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49105022)