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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
cerebral buff queen of the night people who are hurt
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Chocolate church building
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Appetizing hell
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Chocolate church building
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Appetizing hell
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Chocolate church building
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
charismatic piazza
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cq
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
multi-colored boltzmann
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: cerebral buff queen of the night people who are hurt

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Doobsian headpube gaming laptop

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Doobsian headpube gaming laptop

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Doobsian headpube gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Doobsian headpube gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Doobsian headpube gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Doobsian headpube gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Doobsian headpube gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Doobsian headpube gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49128622)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Chocolate church building

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Appetizing hell

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Chocolate church building

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Appetizing hell

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Chocolate church building

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Iridescent jap

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: obsidian wonderful athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Irradiated Metal Masturbator Den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: charismatic piazza

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: odious topaz faggot firefighter

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Titillating Striped Hyena

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Iridescent jap

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: multi-colored boltzmann

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Provocative awkward point

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: big slimy fat ankles

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49105022)