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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Big Amethyst Den
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
ultramarine degenerate rigor
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
ultramarine degenerate rigor
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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cq
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Big Amethyst Den

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Sable razzle-dazzle resort travel guidebook

just walk outside bro

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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Sable razzle-dazzle resort travel guidebook

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49128622)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: gay garrison stock car

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: ultramarine degenerate rigor

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: gay garrison stock car

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: ultramarine degenerate rigor

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: gay garrison stock car

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: trip rusted private investor

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Dead aphrodisiac boltzmann volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: charismatic cruise ship toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: carnelian deep office

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Disturbing Purple Coffee Pot Lay

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: wonderful senate

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: trip rusted private investor

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Excitant giraffe

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Swashbuckling therapy kitchen

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: passionate sticky gas station

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2).#49105022)