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There isn't enough electricity grid capacity to sustain mass AI adoption or more

development to AGI levels. And the modular nuclear generator...
average/ordinary/typical citizen/person
  12/28/24
We're going to have to go back to nuclear. Also expect a pus...
Post nut horror
  12/30/24
What company is in the business of designing/constructing ne...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  12/30/24
I guess that means nobody can do it, ever.
Post nut horror
  12/30/24
We don't have a permanent waste disposal facility. Kav wrote...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  12/30/24
Guess so! Lol!
Post nut horror
  12/30/24
Congress ORDERED the executive branch to find a permanent so...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  12/30/24
good
cock of michael obama
  12/28/24
Yes. But we also need them for xo security certificates.
average/ordinary/typical citizen/person
  12/28/24
Any AI nerds want to try to disprove this
average/ordinary/typical citizen/person
  12/29/24
https://youtu.be/SkmrUWyZThQ?si=KRaAENK9jVf5Hcig
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  12/30/24
The grid will respond to demand signals. If the demand is gr...
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  12/29/24
We will never build another nuclear power plant in America
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  12/29/24
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  12/30/24
ljl this is only true because Nvidia GPUs are energy HOGS ma...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  12/30/24
This is why Sam Altman is funding fusion research and he cla...
"'''''"'''"""''''"
  12/30/24
AI can just write better software to lessen the energy requi...
cowgod
  12/30/24
They will just raise electricity prices to levels unaffordab...
pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp
  12/30/24
I'm sure this seems far-fetched to most people but I really ...
Oh, you travel?
  12/30/24
AI can't come up with a solution?
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  12/30/24
The exact amount of electricity consumed per question I answ...
Diane Rehm talking dirty
  12/30/24
See libs this is why we need to have wars for oil
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  12/30/24


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Date: December 28th, 2024 11:57 PM
Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person

development to AGI levels. And the modular nuclear generators are never going to happen.

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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:19 PM
Author: Post nut horror

We're going to have to go back to nuclear. Also expect a push for "clean coal."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48501581)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:19 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


What company is in the business of designing/constructing new nuke reactors?

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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:24 PM
Author: Post nut horror

I guess that means nobody can do it, ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48501600)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:28 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


We don't have a permanent waste disposal facility. Kav wrote an opinion on this when he was on the DC Circuit. Guess I'm the only poaster who paid any attention to his judicial record.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48501615)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:58 PM
Author: Post nut horror

Guess so! Lol!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48501744)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 2:36 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Congress ORDERED the executive branch to find a permanent solution. Better get on it!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48501885)



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Date: December 28th, 2024 11:57 PM
Author: cock of michael obama

good

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Date: December 28th, 2024 11:58 PM
Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person

Yes. But we also need them for xo security certificates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48497711)



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Date: December 29th, 2024 9:31 PM
Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person

Any AI nerds want to try to disprove this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48500127)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:23 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


https://youtu.be/SkmrUWyZThQ?si=KRaAENK9jVf5Hcig

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48501598)



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Date: December 29th, 2024 9:36 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,....,:,..,:.:.,:.::,


The grid will respond to demand signals. If the demand is great enough, there will be new conventional nuclear generation Facilities built. But to start out with it is very easy to build a ton of gas CTs. The AI boom is actually what will save us from over reliance on wind and solar, and the reliability problems that over reliance would create.



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Date: December 29th, 2024 11:10 PM
Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person

We will never build another nuclear power plant in America

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48500307)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:16 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,....,:,..,:.:.,:.::,




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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:17 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


ljl this is only true because Nvidia GPUs are energy HOGS manufactured on outdated process nodes. The only company that makes worse GPUs is AMD.

Apple silicon doesn't doesn't have this problem. Neither does Qualcomm now. Enjoy paying $20k for less VRAM than you can get in a Macbook, TSINAH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48501577)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:21 PM
Author: "'''''"'''"""''''"

This is why Sam Altman is funding fusion research and he claims we will achieve sustainable fusion reactions by the end of the decade

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48501590)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:30 PM
Author: cowgod

AI can just write better software to lessen the energy requirements imo. Sega Genesis/32X has higher energy requirements than PS5. It’s possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48501621)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:30 PM
Author: pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp

They will just raise electricity prices to levels unaffordable for households and consumers to force rationing and rolling brown-outs for hours every day like in South Africa.

Regular people will sit shivering in the dark, munching on cold bugs in their micro-studio apartments, while the massive AI data centers glow and hum with energy off in the distance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48501623)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:35 PM
Author: Oh, you travel? ( )

I'm sure this seems far-fetched to most people but I really believe it could be the future. We are barreling down the path to a cold war between technocrat Elites and "average citizens" eventually escalating to a hard purge as Uncle Ted predicted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48501641)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:37 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


AI can't come up with a solution?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48501646)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:55 PM
Author: Diane Rehm talking dirty (🐿️ )

The exact amount of electricity consumed per question I answer depends on various factors, such as the complexity of the query, the underlying hardware (servers), and the overall infrastructure that powers the model. However, we can give a general idea of the electricity consumption involved in running large AI models like mine.

Key Factors Affecting Electricity Usage:

1. Model Size: Larger models, like GPT-4, consume more energy to process queries than smaller ones. The deeper the neural network, the more computation is needed.

2. Server Load: The number of users and queries being processed at any given time affects the overall power consumption. High demand can lead to more servers being activated.

3. Data Centers: AI models like mine run on clusters of high-performance GPUs or specialized hardware (e.g., TPUs) located in data centers. The energy consumption of these data centers includes cooling, power for servers, and other infrastructure.

4. Query Complexity: Simpler queries likely require less computation, while more complex or multi-turn interactions consume more energy.

General Estimation:

It’s difficult to pinpoint the exact energy cost for each query, but research into AI model energy consumption can provide a rough idea.

1. Energy per Inference:

• A single query or inference (answer) from a model like GPT-3 or GPT-4 could range from 0.1 kWh to 1 kWh depending on the size of the model, the hardware used, and the complexity of the query.

• For comparison, 1 kWh is about the energy needed to power a standard light bulb for 10-12 hours or run a microwave for 15-20 minutes.

2. Total Data Center Energy:

• Large data centers that host AI models can consume tens of megawatt-hours (MWh) per day, depending on the scale. However, the actual energy used for each query is a fraction of that total.

Conclusion:

While it’s hard to pinpoint the exact electricity consumption per question, each query likely consumes a very small amount of energy, possibly in the range of 0.1 to 1 watt-hour (Wh). Given the rapid advancements in more energy-efficient hardware and optimizations in data centers, the energy footprint per query is continuously decreasing, but it still adds up at scale across millions or billions of interactions.

The energy consumption is largely driven by the infrastructure behind the AI, including both hardware and cooling needs in the data centers, and not just the direct computational work of answering a single question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48501725)



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Date: December 30th, 2024 1:56 PM
Author: "'''''"'''"""''''"

See libs this is why we need to have wars for oil

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5656162&forum_id=2).#48501732)