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Employment in America (1607 - 2025):
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Date: November 6th, 2025 9:07 AM Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,. i support this; most jobs are useless and most people are useless at their jobs:
https://www.challengergray.com/blog/october-challenger-report-153074-job-cuts-on-cost-cutting-ai/
October Challenger Report: 153,074 Job Cuts on Cost-Cutting & AI JOB CUTS SURPASS 1 MILLION; HIGHEST OCTOBER TOTAL SINCE 2003. COMPANIES CITE COST-CUTTING, AI IN OCTOBER
Published November 6, 2025
U.S.-based employers announced 153,074 job cuts in October, up 175% from the 55,597 cuts announced in October 2024. It is up 183% from the 54,064 job cuts announced one month prior, according to a report released Thursday from global outplacement and executive coaching firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas.
“October’s pace of job cutting was much higher than average for the month. Some industries are correcting after the hiring boom of the pandemic, but this comes as AI adoption, softening consumer and corporate spending, and rising costs drive belt-tightening and hiring freezes. Those laid off now are finding it harder to quickly secure new roles, which could further loosen the labor market,” said Andy Challenger, workplace expert and chief revenue officer for Challenger, Gray & Christmas.
Through October, employers have announced 1,099,500 job cuts, an increase of 65% from the 664,839 announced in the first ten months of last year. It is up 44% from the 761,358 cuts announced in all of 2024. Year-to-date job cuts are at the highest level since 2020 when 2,304,755 cuts were announced through October.
Not only did individual companies announce large layoff totals in October, but a higher number of companies announced job cut plans. Challenger tracked nearly 450 individual job cut plans in October, compared to just under 400 in September. March, which had the largest number of job cuts this year primarily due to cuts at the Federal level, saw roughly 350 individual announcements.
October’s total is the highest for the month since October 2003, when 171,874 cuts were recorded. That month, large announcements occurred in Retail due to acquisitions and in Telecommunication as cell phones gained wide adoption.
“This is the highest total for October in over 20 years, and the highest total for a single month in the fourth quarter since 2008. Like in 2003, a disruptive technology is changing the landscape,” said Challenger.
“Over the last decade, companies have shied away from announcing layoffs in the fourth quarter, so it’s surprising to see so many in October. With the onset of social media, and the ability for workers to share their negative experiences with their employers, the trend of announcing layoffs before the holidays fell away, a practice that seemed particularly cruel,” said Challenger.
In fact, between 2003 and 2013, the fourth quarter averaged 74,733 job cuts a month. In the following decade, the monthly average in the fourth quarter fell to 42,927. For October, the average job cut total from 2014 to 2024 was 47,086.
“At a time when job creation is at its lowest point in years, the optics of announcing layoffs in the fourth quarter are particularly unfavorable,” he added. WHICH INDUSTRIES ARE CUTTING THE MOST IN OCTOBER?
Technology continues to lead in private-sector job cuts as companies restructure amid AI integration, slower demand, and efficiency pressures. In October, the sector announced 33,281 job cuts, up sharply from 5,639 in September. For the year, Technology firms have announced 141,159 job cuts, up 17% from the 120,470 announced through the same period in 2024.
Retailers announced 2,431 job cuts in October, down from 2,577 the prior month, but the sector remains among the hardest hit this year. So far in 2025, Retail has announced 88,664 job cuts, a 145% increase from the 36,136 announced through October last year. The sector continues to face cost pressures, shifting consumer habits, and ongoing store closures.
The Services sector, which includes companies that provide support to other businesses such as cleaning, staffing, and outsourcing firms, announced 1,990 job cuts in October, down from 6,290 in September. Year to date, the sector has announced 63,580 job cuts, up 62% from the 39,296 announced through October 2024.
Warehousing led all industries in October cuts, announcing 47,878 job cuts, up from 984 in September. Year to date, the sector has cut 90,418 jobs, a 378% increase from the 18,904 cuts announced in the same period last year. The surge suggests ongoing overcapacity and automation-driven restructuring following pandemic-era growth.
Consumer Products companies announced 3,409 job cuts in October, up from 1,983 in September. For the year, the sector has announced 41,033 job cuts, up 21% from the 33,865 cuts announced during the same period in 2024, as companies adjust production and workforce levels amid softening demand and changing consumer preferences.
Non-profits continue to be impacted by Government funding as well as rising costs. These entities announced plans to cut 27,651 this year, an increase of 419% from the 5,329 announced by this point in 2024.
The Media industry has announced 16,680 cuts so far in 2025, up 26% from the 13,279 cuts announced in the first ten months of last year.
News, which Challenger tracks as a subset of Media and includes broadcast, digital, and print, has announced 2,075 job cuts so far this year, 337 of which occurred in October. That is the highest monthly total since 462 in May. For the year, News cuts are down 41% from the 3,520 cuts announced during the same period last year. WHY ARE COMPANIES CUTTING IN 2025?
“DOGE Impact” remains the leading reason for job cut announcements in 2025, cited in 293,753 planned layoffs so far this year. This includes direct reductions to the Federal workforce and its contractors. An additional 20,976 cuts have been attributed to DOGE Downstream Impact, which reflects the loss of federal funding to private and non-profit entities.
In October alone, Cost-Cutting was the top reason employers cited for job reductions, responsible for 50,437 announced layoffs. Artificial Intelligence (AI) was the second-most cited factor, leading to 31,039 job cuts as companies continue to restructure and automate. AI has been cited for 48,414 job cuts this year.
Market and Economic Conditions accounted for another 21,104 cuts in October, bringing the year-to-date total for this reason to 229,331, while Closings of stores, units, and plants resulted in 16,739 cuts for the month and 161,391 for the year. Restructuring was cited in 7,588 October announcements, for a total of 108,038 so far in 2025.
The Midwest logged 351 CEO exits year-to-date, up 6% from 332 in 2024. Illinois led the region with 72 CEO departures, compared to 57 last year. Indiana nearly doubled to 38 from 20, and Iowa rose to 23 from 11. Meanwhile, Ohio declined slightly to 61 from 71, and Michigan dropped to 29 from 41 HIRING PLANS IN 2025
Through October, U.S. employers have announced 488,077 planned hires, down 35% from the 750,333 announced at this point in 2024. It is the lowest year-to-date total since 2011, when 459,971 new hires were planned. On average, employers have announced 48,808 new hires per month, the lowest monthly average since 2011, when an average of 44,798 new hires occurred monthly.
Included in Challenger’s hiring figure are 372,520 seasonal hiring plans through October (Table 8), the lowest number of announced seasonal hires through October since Challenger began tracking them in 2012.
“It’s possible with rate cuts and a strong showing in November, companies may make a late season push for employees, but at this point, we do not expect a strong seasonal hiring environment in 2025,” said Challenger.
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Date: November 6th, 2025 9:11 AM Author: I was Robbed Challenger, Grey, and Christmas. wow Jamie pull up the Netanyahu golden calf quote wrt America |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 9:14 AM Author: SneakersSO The “everything that everyone does is useless” line is always liberal artists and lawyers saying it. Engineers never say they about “everyone.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794193&forum_id=2).#49406675) |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 9:18 AM Author: I was Robbed a huge segment of the economy is makework. it's not bad, it sustains life, we like having the diversity of work slots available on the job board (right?), it's good to have more people doing things, it's not really something that anyone good natured is supposed to be looking too hard at that particular critique only comes out when people start getting snippy because some people get to make 80k a year as a golf caddy while some make 90k a year working 90 hours a week in law or what have you |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 9:30 AM Author: UhOh it's not quite make work yet, but it's about to be. has anyone explored the ethics of make work? the psychology of it? i know the russians had people digging ditches and stuff, but those were serfs who were barely sentient. what happens when the educated masses realize they're completely unnecessary? do they accept the theater of make work? is it better than doing nothing? i imagine it's a cognitive dissonance thing, where the more the trivial the job gets the more defensive and self important the people doing it become. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794193&forum_id=2).#49406712) |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 9:33 AM Author: I was Robbed i think the idea is that you use the workplace to create meaning and realistically if you work in an office that's creating and selling Pet Rocks or slink-ees or what have you it's not actually "useless" it's bonus stuff, but it still creates value in the market |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 9:35 AM Author: UhOh a life spent creating value in the market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794193&forum_id=2).#49406734) |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 9:37 AM Author: I was Robbed with good work/life balance that isn't really the issue, right? it's all this other shit like HR political commissars and bosses grinding you and your life to the bone to squeeze out another ten tiles on their newly paved pool deck and a stagnant minimum wage vis a vis a rising CPI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794193&forum_id=2).#49406738) |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 9:41 AM Author: UhOh yeah that's fair, an artisan's life sounds pretty nice and fulfilling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794193&forum_id=2).#49406743) |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 11:07 AM Author: Comparative Advantage Vonnegut explored this in Player Piano. I think his conclusion was that most people do want to work and feel useful, dumber people wont notice what theyre doing is makework, but smarter people (like the engineers who got rid of most of the jobs before they lost their own) see through the farce and feel sad about digging ditches and filling them up again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794193&forum_id=2).#49406936) |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 9:24 AM Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,. what percentage of the US workforce is both engineering and in active development or maintenance? my broader view is that the existing system of 'jobs' is bound to undergo a longer-term crisis and evolution due to technological pressures, and that it will work a lot better to embrace this early than to try and jam scaffolding into an outmoded model as it collapses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794193&forum_id=2).#49406693) |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 9:49 AM Author: SneakersSO The people saying everything is white-collar makework are usually white collar makework doers
Engineers and proles just call out the fake job people and liberal artists. They don’t call out “everything.”
The PURE makework is probably 80% done by Women and black people imo. if you’re an adult male this is not your world. But even the federal government employs “only” 2000000k. |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 9:58 AM Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,. critical employment to maintain the system as such as probably around 15% of the workforce, which was revealed during the covid era. the 'AI' thing hasn't even changed the system that much just yet, but it has made it tentatively more acceptable for companies to start rationalizing employment in a more detailed way, and that is mainly leading to big job cuts.
that's not going to stop. |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 9:35 AM Author: Sweet Pajeet Yet we "need" more and more immigrants. Educated birdshits just need to get humbled and start doing landscaping and whatnot. It's time to reintroduce humility and hard work as American values. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794193&forum_id=2).#49406729) |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 9:52 AM Author: SneakersSO One idea I’ve never heard is rounding up everyone who’s ever bombed undergrad or grad OCI and just giving them another shot at not being frozen out of society. Because all of these people are working at Homegoods or self-taught Engineering and got offshored to Indians. Round them all up and bring them to internment camps. And then let them fight the Indians to the death in the desert. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794193&forum_id=2).#49406789) |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 10:47 AM Author: Roblox (Vivek) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794193&forum_id=2).#49406885) |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 10:55 AM Author: Noah Tannenbaum Yes lay off as many people as possible in the next 3 years. Also get rid of gig jobs like uber and replace with Waymo. Socialist revolution cannot come soon enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794193&forum_id=2).#49406899) |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 10:57 AM Author: Covid was a Hoax the actual robotics jobs wont be around for 25 years. the email jobs are toast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794193&forum_id=2).#49406903) |