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where would libs stand if tariffs were exclusively used to fund free healthcare?

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Odious tantric kitty people who are hurt
  04/07/25
economic ruin for some, tranny bathrooms for all
gold rigor
  04/07/25
libs literally are pretending that tariffs don't actually pr...
Emerald gunner
  04/07/25
well i mean the revenue is dependent on consumption, but one...
Odious tantric kitty people who are hurt
  04/07/25
your last sentence is word vomit. lowering any tax rates he...
Emerald gunner
  04/07/25
yes and no. agree that on the face of it reducing the t...
Odious tantric kitty people who are hurt
  04/07/25
the reality is that lowering taxes favors people keeping mor...
Emerald gunner
  04/07/25
i never said it was a form of government spending (hence why...
Odious tantric kitty people who are hurt
  04/07/25
this is a shockingly retarded poast even by post-2017 XO sta...
chrome razzle-dazzle clown
  04/07/25
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swashbuckling gay therapy foreskin
  04/07/25
It's Trump who claimed they will eliminate the trade deficit...
Histrionic ocher boistinker
  04/07/25
thank for the CCP update
Emerald gunner
  04/07/25
lol. if the tariffs were a shocking, unqualified success and...
mahogany beady-eyed tanning salon genital piercing
  04/07/25
LOL! Is this Conservative Financial Porn?
Smoky Mad Cow Disease
  04/07/25
do you think the use of the word “shocking” is m...
mahogany beady-eyed tanning salon genital piercing
  04/07/25
How do we “fix” our trade deficit? Explain what ...
excitant copper pocket flask theater
  04/07/25
lib here. id say "not like this, not by him" wo...
judgmental comical weed whacker love of her life
  04/07/25
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Smoky Mad Cow Disease
  04/07/25
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maniacal motley church sneaky criminal
  04/07/25
Free healthcare would be awful for jewmaerica and go against...
Racy rigpig resort
  04/07/25
It's the worst way to raise revenue. One of the key argument...
umber laughsome orchestra pit trust fund
  04/07/25
i agree (see my own poast above) but it was more a rhetorica...
Odious tantric kitty people who are hurt
  04/07/25
it also creates jobs here which are at the lower level. you ...
navy location persian
  04/07/25
https://x.com/frankthepunk1/status/1908199080087449964 ...
Racy rigpig resort
  04/07/25
no. why?
navy location persian
  04/07/25
lol @ $30/hr factory jobs ever coming back
Odious tantric kitty people who are hurt
  04/07/25
lol at them not coming back.
Emerald gunner
  04/07/25
I’m sure those factory jobs will still be desirable no...
excitant copper pocket flask theater
  04/07/25
"taxing megacorps is regressive" you must have ...
harsh gas station
  04/07/25
universal healthcare...better way to fund it libs have shit...
maniacal motley church sneaky criminal
  04/07/25
its easily done but it would be antithetical to america's ra...
Racy rigpig resort
  04/07/25
it's not easily done, dipshit negative rights = easily done...
maniacal motley church sneaky criminal
  04/07/25
Again, no. It's easily do-able. What makes an american harde...
Racy rigpig resort
  04/07/25
to be clear, of course it's easily doable if you just do it ...
maniacal motley church sneaky criminal
  04/07/25
you pee sitting down and fart cum from your asshole and you ...
Emerald gunner
  04/07/25
Trump would be hurting GC unnecessarily just like the dictat...
Talented cordovan menage
  04/07/25
“healthcare” is 98% scam bullshit
Flesh Concupiscible Indirect Expression
  04/07/25
What a totally relevant and valid hypo!
zippy point affirmative action
  04/07/25
I oppose anything that helps Trumpmos so I would vehemently ...
Cracking scourge upon the earth church building
  04/07/25
most "Red States" are like 45% dem anyways you fuc...
Emerald gunner
  04/08/25


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Date: April 7th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Odious tantric kitty people who are hurt



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Date: April 7th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: gold rigor

economic ruin for some, tranny bathrooms for all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823638)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 9:53 AM
Author: Emerald gunner

libs literally are pretending that tariffs don't actually produce additional revenue. they also view lowering tax rates as a form of govt spending.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823644)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Odious tantric kitty people who are hurt

well i mean the revenue is dependent on consumption, but one can assume that a certain amount of consumption will endure even post tariffs. these tariffs are, for all intents and purposes, a federal sales tax.

lowering income tax rates is not spending but replacing a progressive income tax with a flat sales tax (assuming the tax cuts are disproportionately enjoyed by those in higher income brackets) is hugely regressive and --irionically-- will hurt poor red state proles the most.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823687)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:56 AM
Author: Emerald gunner

your last sentence is word vomit. lowering any tax rates helps anyone who pays taxes in said brackets because they keep more of their money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823998)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 11:51 AM
Author: Odious tantric kitty people who are hurt

yes and no.

agree that on the face of it reducing the tax rate in every bracket has the practical effect of reducing the effective tax for everyone.

the reality --which i'm sure you know-- is that such "tax cuts" typically favor higher earners by either a/ focusing adjustments more on the higher tax bracket thresholds than the lower ones and b/ also focusing rate cuts also more on the higher tax bracket ranges.

moreover, my primary point was that a flat sales tax is punitive to the extent that lower earners are unlikely to enjoy offsetting income tax cuts to the same extent that higher earners do: if you can show me a real example of where this wasn't the case i would be happy to be enlightened

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824188)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: Emerald gunner

the reality is that lowering taxes favors people keeping more their money, which they have earned and belongs to them. it is not at all a form of govt spending.

you are yammering about national sales tax. that is what has essentially happened the last 4 years with Biden's intentionally manufactured inflation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824664)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Odious tantric kitty people who are hurt

i never said it was a form of government spending (hence why i prefaced my original answer as "yes and no" - the yes being that i agree with you that it does not meet any definition of spending). i simply said that the opportunity cost of granting such cuts is generally foregone govt spending.

inflation =/= sales tax (or a tariff), as with the former the government is not the end recipient of the additional dollars paid as they are with the latter mechanism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824830)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 4:03 PM
Author: chrome razzle-dazzle clown

this is a shockingly retarded poast even by post-2017 XO standards and you should feel bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48825158)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: swashbuckling gay therapy foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824164)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: Histrionic ocher boistinker

It's Trump who claimed they will eliminate the trade deficit. With many of these countries purchasing essentially nothing from us because they're far too poor, they would not generate revenue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824205)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 1:49 PM
Author: Emerald gunner

thank for the CCP update

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824668)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: mahogany beady-eyed tanning salon genital piercing

lol. if the tariffs were a shocking, unqualified success and we fixed our trade deficits, balanced our budget, brought in enough revenue to fund universal healthcare and eliminate taxes, and ushered in a new pax americana, trump would have still said “pussy.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823714)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: Smoky Mad Cow Disease

LOL!

Is this Conservative Financial Porn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823756)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: mahogany beady-eyed tanning salon genital piercing

do you think the use of the word “shocking” is meant to indicate that the presented hypothetical is the expected and predictable result? let me guess: you didn’t have eggs for breakfast this morning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823843)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: excitant copper pocket flask theater

How do we “fix” our trade deficit? Explain what you think that means.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823771)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: judgmental comical weed whacker love of her life

lib here. id say "not like this, not by him"

would be 100% fine if the next dem does it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823744)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:13 AM
Author: Smoky Mad Cow Disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823757)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 11:05 AM
Author: maniacal motley church sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824033)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: Racy rigpig resort

Free healthcare would be awful for jewmaerica and go against its founding principle. Namely that the commodity labourers have to work to survive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823774)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: umber laughsome orchestra pit trust fund

It's the worst way to raise revenue. One of the key arguments that left-of-center policy makers make when discussing taxation is that targeting tax increases on the wealthy has by far the least amount of impact on the economy because at higher incomes and wealth the marginal propensity to consume and even invest is much lower. Tariffs go in the opposite direction. It's very regressive tax.

And what's the expected revenue to be generated from these tariffs? A couple hundred billion a year, maybe? That's not a lot considering the size of the annual budget. A lot of negative impact for peanuts.

The TLDR answer is the amount of tariffs to raise enough to pay for something as big as universal healthcare would destroy the economy. We would need to find a better way to fund it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823810)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:22 AM
Author: Odious tantric kitty people who are hurt

i agree (see my own poast above) but it was more a rhetorical question

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823816)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:22 AM
Author: navy location persian

it also creates jobs here which are at the lower level. you think pooors would rather work at walmart making $15/hr with slightly lower taxes or in a factory making $30/hr with slightly higher taxes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823818)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: Racy rigpig resort

https://x.com/frankthepunk1/status/1908199080087449964

you would pay for his legs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823848)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:59 AM
Author: navy location persian

no. why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824014)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:27 AM
Author: Odious tantric kitty people who are hurt

lol @ $30/hr factory jobs ever coming back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823852)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 2:02 PM
Author: Emerald gunner

lol at them not coming back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824713)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:17 PM
Author: excitant copper pocket flask theater

I’m sure those factory jobs will still be desirable now that every union in the country has been gutted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48826234)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:30 AM
Author: harsh gas station

"taxing megacorps is regressive"

you must have to stand up when you poast stuff like this because the cum blasting out of your asshole would lift you from your seat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48823867)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: maniacal motley church sneaky criminal

universal healthcare...better way to fund it

libs have shit for brains

the best way to fund universal healthcare is to realize that there is no such thing as universal healthcare and any attempt to accomplish it will be an expensive, inefficient clusterfuck for all involved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824039)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 11:09 AM
Author: Racy rigpig resort

its easily done but it would be antithetical to america's raizon d'etre

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824046)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: maniacal motley church sneaky criminal

it's not easily done, dipshit

negative rights = easily done

positive rights = expensive, inefficient clusterfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824064)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 11:18 AM
Author: Racy rigpig resort

Again, no. It's easily do-able. What makes an american harder to treat than a swede? Besides obesity and maybe more genetic diversity (for genetical med problems)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824075)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: maniacal motley church sneaky criminal

to be clear, of course it's easily doable if you just do it

the idea that it can be done in an effective, fair, inexpensive, efficient manner...lol, fuck no

positive rights are just a form of theft dressed up as compassion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824083)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 2:01 PM
Author: Emerald gunner

you pee sitting down and fart cum from your asshole and you aren't American and don't even like this country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824709)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 10:57 AM
Author: Talented cordovan menage

Trump would be hurting GC unnecessarily just like the dictator he is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824006)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 2:02 PM
Author: Flesh Concupiscible Indirect Expression

“healthcare” is 98% scam bullshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824716)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 2:16 PM
Author: zippy point affirmative action

What a totally relevant and valid hypo!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824762)



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Date: April 7th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Cracking scourge upon the earth church building

I oppose anything that helps Trumpmos so I would vehemently oppose this.

No free healthcare for Trumpmos.

No tariffs to support worthless Trumpmo "jobs."

Also, I fully support Canada, Mexico, EU, and even China in their trade war targeting red states. Just bought some Canadian shit yesterday in fact. LOL fuck Kentucky, fuck Tennessee, those fags can eat shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48824841)



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Date: April 8th, 2025 10:51 AM
Author: Emerald gunner

most "Red States" are like 45% dem anyways you fucktard. maybe everyone should just oppose hyperpolitical TDS dipshits like you instead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5706755&forum_id=2).#48827283)