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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:22 PM Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Sneaky Criminal Lets pretend there is no conspiracy theory, no anti white sentiment, that somehow basically every western country is doing this for some pragmatic reason, what is it?
They all want to grow population to keep up with china& india for some reason?
Or it really is just about keeping ponzi pension schemes going as long as possible?
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:25 PM Author: irradiated stead electric furnace debt based economies need growth and the natives aren't reproducing. it's a math problem. the thing is they should only be taking working aged men, who produce and take very little. once you let the women in along with their 5 kids it's a big L. also we should be waiving in skilled workers, not day laborers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291263) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:26 PM Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Sneaky Criminal Why do they care so much about economies. A lot of it is just theoretical shit. We could all stay in and work through our backlogs while we have a recession for a few years no big deal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291268) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:31 PM Author: irradiated stead electric furnace it wouldn't be a recession, it would be a generational decline until things got cheap enough for people to have kids again or for foreign capital to buy it all up and take a run at it. as far as i know there is no economic system for such a deflationary economy. it just spirals out of control. japan has kind of gotten away with it for a couple decades but i don't think it's a rosy picture for the young. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291281) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:37 PM Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Sneaky Criminal Sure their birthrates are a disaster but Japanese gamers have little to no backlogs, and their ecosystems are recovering as the land depopulates (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291302) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:37 PM Author: irradiated stead electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291304) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:41 PM Author: Avocado Theatre Private Investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291318) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 9:58 PM Author: Twinkling passionate piazza immigrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49292822) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:52 PM Author: Startled office Are you talking about gaming backlogs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291371) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 2:37 PM Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Sneaky Criminal Is there any other kind? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291693) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 2:38 PM Author: bearded stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291699) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 10:06 PM Author: diverse tattoo den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49292826) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 4:18 PM Author: bespoke glittery roommate "also we should be waiving in skilled workers, not day laborers. "
Who the fuck else is going to pick crops? |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 6:45 PM Author: lavender boyish theater stage the robots built by the skilled workers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49292387) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:28 PM Author: contagious brass stage liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291274) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:31 PM Author: Avocado Theatre Private Investor There is a steelman for the US model of mass immigration specifically. We get the very best legitimately high human capital from all over the world, and we get serviceable brown "Hispanic" slave labor via the southern border who are relatively docile and mostly not hostile to the native population or culture
This only applies to the US though. There can only be one preferred global destination for the highest human capital labor and that place will also be the preferred destination for the most cost effective slave labor because it will be the wealthiest
Compare to other Anglosphere countries and Europe who import literally completely worthless sand niggers and actual Africa niggers and jeets. All these groups are openly hostile to the native white populations and they do not do anything useful at all, literally just hostile parasites upon the host populations |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:33 PM Author: irradiated stead electric furnace taking in arabs is insane (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291291) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 2:45 PM Author: outnumbered shimmering knife mad-dog skullcap the very best legitimately high human capital from Pakistan coming to America to murder your daughter for exposing her ankles in public (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291712) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:41 PM Author: Tan vengeful national weed whacker "who are relatively docile and mostly not hostile to the native population or culture"
are you fucking kidding me? "latinos" have ruined literally dozens if not hundreds of American cities. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:43 PM Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291324) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:45 PM Author: Avocado Theatre Private Investor I agree but this is not mutually exclusive with what I said, read it again
Obviously I do not support any form of non white immigration to our country. I'm just explaining the benefits of it (they do exist) but overall the juice is clearly not at all worth the squeeze |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:48 PM Author: Tan vengeful national weed whacker also "very best legitimately high human capital from all over the world" literally are just turds and chinks who work for peanuts and grift our country for everything they possibly can. in many cases they're outright spies for the CCP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291347) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:49 PM Author: Odious circlehead home yep (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291353) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:52 PM Author: Avocado Theatre Private Investor Are you stupid?
America objectively gets the highest human capital from all over the world. This is just a fact. We also get a bunch of relatively worthless chinks and now a bunch of literally worthless turds
These are not mutually exclusive things nor are they even related to each other in this discussion |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:57 PM Author: Tan vengeful national weed whacker bringing in hoards of chinks and turds so we can have a few dozen "high IQ" CEO turds who push GC above America's interests isn't close to worth it and actually harms this country. even if it adds a few thousandths to the gdp %. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291402) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:59 PM Author: multi-colored turquoise area okay, but that’s a value judgment and the people making these decisions pretty clearly have a very different set of values. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291411) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 1:06 PM Author: Avocado Theatre Private Investor These aren't mutually exclusive things! They're not related to each other! My god I'm trying not to be a dick but come on man
America could, if it was not captured by corrupt hostile interests, easily reform its immigration system and only allow in the legitimately very best human capital. We don't get the useless chinks and turds *because* we get the best people. We get them *in spite of* it. They're entirely different immigration processes, even
But is it even a net positive for us even take in the very best human capital? That is a legitimate question. I think not. I think that these people inevitably warp society in net negative ways even if they do make real, significant contributions. But there do exist hypothetical worlds in which this model could work net positively |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 2:20 PM Author: Tan vengeful national weed whacker it seems like it would be easier to just not let in anyone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291664) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 5:31 PM Author: Avocado Theatre Private Investor Agreed and also better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49292214) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 7:42 PM Author: vermilion excitant bbw menage This is kind of what the $100k fee does. It no longer makes sense to bring someone into the country who only generates $60 or $80k of valuable over their domestic replacement. Companies that have real need for value-generating talent can pony up the money to apply. H1Bs are ultimately a lottery, so by removing the low value slots from the lottery, the high value slots have a higher chance of getting selected.
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 7:38 PM Author: vermilion excitant bbw menage We definitely don’t get “the best” human capital coming to the US., though we do attract higher quality talent than other countries. The overwhelming majority of the best, most highly trained and educated human capital stays within the country it was generated in. Occasionally we pick up the best a country has to offer, like when political instability pushes people out of Haiti, Pakistan, Vietnam, etc. but that is the exception, not the rule. The idea that America is somehow permanently scooping up the brightest minds from high growth countries like India and China (which combined make up 85% of the H1Bs we issue) is ludicrous.
Additionally, there are negative externalities to sucking all the high-human capital individuals out of a country. Something like 95% of Haiti’s physicians migrate to the US. Haiti’s educational pipeline is basically wasted money since everyone they give a college education to leaves the country rather than fixing it. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: Avocado Theatre Private Investor ok, change my statement to "the best human capital in the world that wants to emigrate from its home country." i agree, that's more precise. i don't agree with your "overwhelming majority..." statement though
the negative externalities don't matter. i don't give a shit about any non-white countries at all, and neither does any other honest white american |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 9:55 PM Author: vermilion excitant bbw menage I don’t give a fuck about Haiti itself; it’s a negative externality because it’s violent mess that now sends tens of thousands of “refugees” to America on a “temporary” protected status. Same goes with the rest of Central America and the Caribbean. We get a few doctors and 20k refugees with the equivalent of a third grade education. That’s a high price to pay for talent we could easily generate domestically
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 2:34 PM Author: Trip Peach Gaping Bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291689) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:39 PM Author: Odious circlehead home it's a pressure release valve on the prices of goods, especially if it's unskilled or general labor i'm not a fan of ice going after hispanics for this reason. the most corrosive immigration is all legal or quasi-legal H1B or lutheran or catholic-aided african refugee type abuse |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:50 PM Author: Laughsome address Business owners want cheap labor. Therefore they lobby for cheap labor.
Not hard. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 12:57 PM Author: multi-colored turquoise area several good answers above. also, the u.s. owes tens of trillions of dollars in debt and its native population is largely replicating bimodally with the common outcomes being either (i) producers of negative economic value or (ii) single child of ~40yo parents with no instilled national allegiance. somebody is going to need to be around in 50+ years to hold the bag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291400) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 2:40 PM Author: bearded stag film I think it’s labor, esp cheap labor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291703) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 4:29 PM Author: Heady site legend 100%. You can type out a 1000 word essay like the dumb asses above, but it just boils down to cheap labor.
This is one of those issues that should unite the left & right on economic grounds, but lefty idiots have to make it about race. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 2:43 PM Author: curious institution macaca There isn't a non-sinister coherent explanation that could apply to both the US and Western Europe. For the US, you could say that illegal immigration has always been required by business and that they are just following the work which there aren't enough natives to do. Many of them even go back during recessions. But that doesn't work for Europe because they are importing welfare cases that do not work at all and that they often do not allow to work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291710) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 2:46 PM Author: Unhinged black woman rigor Boomers need dem pensions and healthcare. Stupid wasteful welfare programs in general need to be funded by artificial GDP growth via population growth, but the natives won't have kids because of birth control pills and psychological warfare (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291714) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 5:54 PM Author: soul-stirring base police squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49292283) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 2:46 PM Author: emerald flickering round eye Stupid to keep them out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291715) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 2:49 PM Author: High-end market pretending no Talmudic malice? quarterly numbers have to go up forever, to do that you can't have "one blood, one soil, one nation" anymore bc that's THOOOOO 19th c. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49291720) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 5:25 PM Author: pale hairraiser half-breed castizo futurism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49292192) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 10:07 PM Author: rough-skinned jew ... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49292828) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 5:49 PM Author: mischievous state it isn't a conspiracy to note that our elites are rootless cosmopolitans that are avowedly seeking a world post nation states and would like to remove borders as a barrier to anything that juices their net worths (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49292270) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 7:29 PM Author: High-end market cr this is in no way controversial (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49292502) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 7:44 PM Author: Arousing Khaki Windowlicker We need them to do important jobs that Americans won't do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49292542) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: shaky station It's pretty easy - wealthy people make policy in America and (i) wealthy people have been taught by colleges to look out for those less fortunate especially other races, (ii) wealthy people benefit greatly from cheap labor from their businesses, their house cleaners, their landscapers, their nannies and (iii) wealth people don't face the same externalities (their kids go to private school, they don't compete for the same housing stock, they don't compete for the same jobs, they don't live in the crime neighborhoods, etc.
From that perspective its obvious - a wealthy white woman gets to pay some one $10/hour to watch her kids AND gets to consider herself a progressive hero for doing so. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 9:57 PM Author: Titillating orchestra pit Cheap labor? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778663&forum_id=2).#49292821) |