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onyx free-loading institution alpha
  04/08/25
Been using a mix of claude and deepseek.
bat-shit-crazy greedy garrison digit ratio
  04/08/25
What tasks are these good at?
onyx free-loading institution alpha
  04/08/25
ive only had the balls to use it to proofread and summarize
Clear Anal Nursing Home Dysfunction
  04/08/25
I haven't found anything that's good for real legal research...
~~(> ' ' )>
  04/09/25
Summarizing low risk dense blocks of text and documents. Gi...
bat-shit-crazy greedy garrison digit ratio
  04/08/25
Does one do certain things better?
onyx free-loading institution alpha
  04/08/25
Claudes terms of service are more amenable to data privacy. ...
bat-shit-crazy greedy garrison digit ratio
  04/08/25
ty
onyx free-loading institution alpha
  04/08/25
Cr. But they can change at any time. Still don’t eve...
Trade Wars Are Good And Easy To Win
  04/09/25
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Oh, you tirade?
  04/13/25
I think all the major ones are good for things like that. Dr...
~~(> ' ' )>
  04/09/25
Generates very basic forms and gives you the relevant statut...
Trade Wars Are Good And Easy To Win
  04/09/25
I've had huge problems with cites.
~~(> ' ' )>
  04/09/25
I only use it for statutory cites and then I actually read t...
Trade Wars Are Good And Easy To Win
  04/09/25
I've found it most useful for drafting some emails and for p...
~~(> ' ' )>
  04/09/25
For research or drafting?
Big potus circlehead
  04/08/25
For anything that a shitlaw solo might do
onyx free-loading institution alpha
  04/08/25
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Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  04/10/25
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michael doodikoff
  04/10/25
I wish it could summarize redlines but it seems to be retard...
180 effete french chef
  04/08/25
Can it do trusts
onyx free-loading institution alpha
  04/08/25
Try accepting all the changes as a new document and ask it t...
.,..,..,.,,..,..,,,,,,,,..,...,.,.,.,
  04/11/25
Relevant to my interests
Drunken self-centered son of senegal generalized bond
  04/08/25
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scholarship
  04/09/25
Grok is solid tbh
Lake Church Building Pisswyrm
  04/08/25
For law?
scholarship
  04/09/25
Harvey AI https://www.harvey.ai/ This is what’s c...
Irate pervert main people
  04/08/25
Weird they don’t say how much it costs
scholarship
  04/09/25
I’m sure each end user license is less than a first ye...
Emperor CRISPR Chad von Neumann III
  04/10/25
i love how everyone in this video is dressed/groomed like a ...
androgenital distance
  04/09/25
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scholarship
  04/09/25
Claude
Trade Wars Are Good And Easy To Win
  04/09/25
Claude seems to have taken a step back from last summer.
David Poaster Wallace
  04/10/25
I am in-house so I need basic first-year level help understa...
Trade Wars Are Good And Easy To Win
  04/10/25
ChatGPT as of two days ago still cites caselaw that is compl...
pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp
  04/09/25
the deep research mode doesn't.
.,..,..,.,,..,..,,,,,,,,..,...,.,.,.,
  04/11/25
They're all terrible for litigation, what kind of shit monke...
Faggottini
  04/10/25
The Westlaw AI is fine for finding cases for basic propositi...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  04/10/25
think its called edge
androgenital distance
  04/10/25
If you’ve ever had a TTT summer associate (we used to ...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  04/10/25
ChatGPT Pro deep search is best for research by a mile
,.,.,.,........,....,,,..
  04/10/25
how much is that
michael doodikoff
  04/10/25
200 per month and I’d pay more
,.,.,.,........,....,,,..
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Wang Hernandez
  04/10/25
Does it do real research and writing for you without making ...
scholarship
  04/10/25
Yes. The drawback is it often takes like 10 minutes. So you ...
,.,.,.,........,....,,,..
  04/10/25
180. What kind of stuff do you use it for?
scholarship
  04/10/25
Anything that I either know little about or that has lots of...
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scholarship
  04/10/25
The Gemini deep research is also good and might be better
,.,.,.,....,.,..,.,.,.
  04/10/25
Agreed. Wish they would come to an agreement with Westlaw t...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  04/11/25
I used Chat GTP to help a friend draft a motion to dismiss ...
Wang Hernandez
  04/10/25
i have learned to not let it do research on it and its cites...
michael doodikoff
  04/10/25
I’m not a litigator so can’t speak to that but i...
,.,.,.,........,....,,,..
  04/10/25
it's weird because if you ask it to draft a research point t...
.,..,..,.,,..,..,,,,,,,,..,...,.,.,.,
  04/12/25
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Blanka
  04/13/25
I used notebookLM to summarize depo transcripts. Was pretty ...
LathamTouchedMe
  04/10/25
Switched to Gemini from Claude, GPT-4o, Deepseek and even QW...
ChadGPT-5
  04/10/25
I usually ask chat gpt 3.5 mini high and Gron 3 both when I ...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,....,:,..,:.:.,:.::,
  04/13/25
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1911311541728653739
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  04/13/25
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scholarship
  04/14/25
Whats his moniker
Senior Ethics Official
  04/15/25


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Date: April 8th, 2025 7:41 PM
Author: onyx free-loading institution alpha



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Date: April 8th, 2025 7:43 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy greedy garrison digit ratio

Been using a mix of claude and deepseek.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48829036)



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Date: April 8th, 2025 7:44 PM
Author: onyx free-loading institution alpha

What tasks are these good at?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48829039)



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Date: April 8th, 2025 7:47 PM
Author: Clear Anal Nursing Home Dysfunction

ive only had the balls to use it to proofread and summarize

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48829046)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 1:11 PM
Author: ~~(> ' ' )>

I haven't found anything that's good for real legal research and writing yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48831473)



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Date: April 8th, 2025 7:47 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy greedy garrison digit ratio

Summarizing low risk dense blocks of text and documents. Giving you a layman's primer on any topic.

Drafting language for bullshit letters.

Ita a personal assistant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48829047)



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Date: April 8th, 2025 7:58 PM
Author: onyx free-loading institution alpha

Does one do certain things better?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48829080)



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Date: April 8th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy greedy garrison digit ratio

Claudes terms of service are more amenable to data privacy. But it has stricter data limits.

Deep seek is fine for most things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48829247)



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Date: April 8th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: onyx free-loading institution alpha

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48829276)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: Trade Wars Are Good And Easy To Win

Cr. But they can change at any time. Still don’t ever put anything confidential in there or you can get ethics pwned.

If you out that in DeepSeek it’s 100 percent going in China’s file on you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48833104)



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Date: April 13th, 2025 6:23 PM
Author: Oh, you tirade?



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Date: April 9th, 2025 1:12 PM
Author: ~~(> ' ' )>

I think all the major ones are good for things like that. Drafting demand letters seems to be on the outer edge of their abilities. Often iffy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48831478)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 1:12 PM
Author: Trade Wars Are Good And Easy To Win

Generates very basic forms and gives you the relevant statutory cites

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48831477)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: ~~(> ' ' )>

I've had huge problems with cites.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48831511)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 1:53 PM
Author: Trade Wars Are Good And Easy To Win

I only use it for statutory cites and then I actually read the statute. I still do the work, but it saves me 30 minutes on the front end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48831652)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: ~~(> ' ' )>

I've found it most useful for drafting some emails and for proofreading. Sometimes it's pretty good for brainstorming theories.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48831719)



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Date: April 8th, 2025 7:47 PM
Author: Big potus circlehead

For research or drafting?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48829045)



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Date: April 8th, 2025 7:49 PM
Author: onyx free-loading institution alpha

For anything that a shitlaw solo might do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48829051)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 6:16 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband



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Date: April 10th, 2025 6:23 PM
Author: michael doodikoff



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Date: April 8th, 2025 7:52 PM
Author: 180 effete french chef

I wish it could summarize redlines but it seems to be retarded at doing so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48829059)



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Date: April 8th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: onyx free-loading institution alpha

Can it do trusts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48829222)



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Date: April 11th, 2025 2:19 AM
Author: .,..,..,.,,..,..,,,,,,,,..,...,.,.,.,


Try accepting all the changes as a new document and ask it to compare it to the old one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48836809)



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Date: April 8th, 2025 7:59 PM
Author: Drunken self-centered son of senegal generalized bond

Relevant to my interests

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48829083)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 1:10 PM
Author: scholarship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48831470)



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Date: April 8th, 2025 8:52 PM
Author: Lake Church Building Pisswyrm

Grok is solid tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48829230)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 1:12 PM
Author: scholarship

For law?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48831476)



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Date: April 8th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Irate pervert main people

Harvey AI

https://www.harvey.ai/

This is what’s coming for us all (it isn’t)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48829264)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 1:12 PM
Author: scholarship

Weird they don’t say how much it costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48831479)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 6:10 PM
Author: Emperor CRISPR Chad von Neumann III

I’m sure each end user license is less than a first year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835545)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: androgenital distance

i love how everyone in this video is dressed/groomed like a total yuppie faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48831688)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 7:57 PM
Author: scholarship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48832952)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 1:11 PM
Author: Trade Wars Are Good And Easy To Win

Claude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48831474)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 6:16 PM
Author: David Poaster Wallace

Claude seems to have taken a step back from last summer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835563)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 7:57 PM
Author: Trade Wars Are Good And Easy To Win

I am in-house so I need basic first-year level help understanding of all 50 states constantly. It would probably be terrible in a real practice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835896)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:46 PM
Author: pitbulls eating your face in hell forever tp

ChatGPT as of two days ago still cites caselaw that is completely made up so not that one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48833098)



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Date: April 11th, 2025 2:19 AM
Author: .,..,..,.,,..,..,,,,,,,,..,...,.,.,.,


the deep research mode doesn't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48836811)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: Faggottini

They're all terrible for litigation, what kind of shit monkey work are u ppl doing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835558)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 6:17 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

The Westlaw AI is fine for finding cases for basic propositions when you don't want to make your brain get tired by figuring out how parentheses work in Boolean searches.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835565)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: androgenital distance

think its called edge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835659)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 7:01 PM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

If you’ve ever had a TTT summer associate (we used to hire them from the local LS as like a community-engagement thing), edge is about that quality.

I.e., you ask for research into a specific, somewhat nuanced topic, and it instead answers a different, more general, and easier-to-research question, almost always with complete disregard to what your litigation position/POV is (lot of “your case is irrecoverably doomed, sorry”-type answers).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835732)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 6:21 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,........,....,,,..


ChatGPT Pro deep search is best for research by a mile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835573)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 6:24 PM
Author: michael doodikoff

how much is that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835583)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 6:25 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,........,....,,,..


200 per month and I’d pay more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835586)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 6:26 PM
Author: Wang Hernandez



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835591)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 7:06 PM
Author: scholarship

Does it do real research and writing for you without making stuff up?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835755)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 7:08 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,........,....,,,..


Yes. The drawback is it often takes like 10 minutes. So you have to craft solid prompts. But it’s nice. I’ll hit it with a deep search and go back to work and toggle back 10-15 minutes later and be ready to blast someone else. Welcome to the new world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835760)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 7:10 PM
Author: scholarship

180. What kind of stuff do you use it for?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835764)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 7:12 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,........,....,,,..


Anything that I either know little about or that has lots of moving parts. The latter usually involves attaching a bunch of PDFs and emails. The former I just want to educate myself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835771)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 7:20 PM
Author: scholarship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835789)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 7:25 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,....,.,..,.,.,.

The Gemini deep research is also good and might be better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835815)



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Date: April 11th, 2025 1:44 AM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

Agreed. Wish they would come to an agreement with Westlaw to make WL's resources available to it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48836788)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 6:26 PM
Author: Wang Hernandez

I used Chat GTP to help a friend draft a motion to dismiss a criminal complaint. My friend is charged with making phone calls with an “intent to annoy.” So we raised a first amendment challenge. I was pretty impressed with what Chat GTP spat out with some prompting. Scary for sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835588)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 6:31 PM
Author: michael doodikoff

i have learned to not let it do research on it and its cites and statutes are wrong all the time.

however, if you feed it the cases and statutes and general arguments you want to make, it does a pretty good job of getting a lot of the way there, even comes up with some arguments I didn't think of a lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835618)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 6:35 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,........,....,,,..


I’m not a litigator so can’t speak to that but it’s amazing at research tranny stuff and market standards if you know what you’re talking about to begin with. My experience with AI is it essentially mirrors the person using it. If you’re a nutjob then it’s going to double down and turn you into an even insaner version of a nutjob. But if you know what you’re talking about it’s really powerful with some prompting and editing. And it will only get better. Eventually they’ll probably take out the bias toward the user or there will be paid people per industry segment feeding it the positions or whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835638)



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Date: April 12th, 2025 9:47 PM
Author: .,..,..,.,,..,..,,,,,,,,..,...,.,.,.,


it's weird because if you ask it to draft a research point the assertions it makes themselves are usually mostly accurate even when they're backed up by fake cases. so it still can be helpful to get you on the right track as long as you're sure to to never trust its cases (which just as often real cases that don't have anything to do with the point cited for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48841650)



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Date: April 13th, 2025 3:39 PM
Author: Blanka



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48843026)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 7:01 PM
Author: LathamTouchedMe

I used notebookLM to summarize depo transcripts. Was pretty impressed. I asked it questions about witness narrative, contradictions, weakest arguments etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835739)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 7:10 PM
Author: ChadGPT-5

Switched to Gemini from Claude, GPT-4o, Deepseek and even QWEN. Google models feel more efficient but it's only been a couple of weeks running them for debugging javascript, Python, and .NET blocks of code.

The above is for hobby projects though, for the law- it's hammer and chisel to the stone tablets.

Update: Incurred $75 in Gemini costs, but mostly from multi-model stuff...switching back to GPT-4o

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48835765)



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Date: April 13th, 2025 3:48 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,....,:,..,:.:.,:.::,


I usually ask chat gpt 3.5 mini high and Gron 3 both when I have a question.

Chat GPT 3.5 deep search is the best but I can only do 2 per week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48843053)



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Date: April 13th, 2025 6:12 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1911311541728653739

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48843358)



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Date: April 14th, 2025 4:15 PM
Author: scholarship

!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48846270)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 8:56 AM
Author: Senior Ethics Official

Whats his moniker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707679&forum_id=2).#48848679)