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Fallout is GTA for smart people. Hth.

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Abusive Temple
  09/09/13
GTA V will be the greatest game of all time hth.
Magical Forum Fanboi
  09/09/13
It doesn't appeal to me at all. It probably won't be t...
Abusive Temple
  09/09/13
are you retarded?
fear-inspiring candlestick maker
  09/09/13
GTA games always have shitty stories and the gameplay is nev...
Abusive Temple
  09/09/13
San Andreas had a fantastic story IMO.
Magical Forum Fanboi
  09/09/13
I thought it was boring and shitty. I will give GTA this tho...
Abusive Temple
  09/09/13
Shitty by what standard? Obviously San andreas' story is ...
Magical Forum Fanboi
  09/09/13
"s but it's as good as anything in Western game" ...
Abusive Temple
  09/09/13
why are RPGs the only metric you are can compare this too? G...
Black hot parlour
  09/09/13
Action games should have good stories too, so I'm not sure w...
Abusive Temple
  09/09/13
did not say that they "didnt care" about the story...
Black hot parlour
  09/09/13
I guess we just disagree about the importance of story in vi...
Abusive Temple
  09/09/13
I think story is important for RPGs, but I would never say s...
Black hot parlour
  09/09/13
cr. GTA IV has the most variety of missions of any GTA game ...
Racy Boistinker
  09/09/13
I skipped all the cut scenes so when I had to make a choice ...
galvanic fighting kitchen digit ratio
  09/09/13
I do think that games like FIFA are in a lower tier
Abusive Temple
  09/09/13
lol at you
Black hot parlour
  09/09/13
Lol. JFC. I guess you would need someone to play with to...
fear-inspiring candlestick maker
  09/09/13
Calm down man, you seem like you are MAF that we have differ...
Abusive Temple
  09/09/13
Skyrim is boring as shit, but real RPGs like mass effect or ...
insecure macaca coffee pot
  09/09/13
I thought GTA IV had too much story actually, I get bored wa...
Wine Stubborn Abode
  09/09/13
lol @ the "immersive sandbox." You can play pool a...
galvanic fighting kitchen digit ratio
  09/09/13
GTA IV is the number one game of all time on metacritic. ...
Well-lubricated dilemma
  09/09/13
I'm not sure why you think that's a good argument, but okay.
Abusive Temple
  09/09/13
"It probably won't be top 20 though."
Well-lubricated dilemma
  09/09/13
"I think that everyone else accepts metacritic as a ran...
Abusive Temple
  09/09/13
lol
Black hot parlour
  09/09/13
pwned
fear-inspiring candlestick maker
  09/09/13
If it's anything like the others it will get boring right ar...
galvanic fighting kitchen digit ratio
  09/09/13
To be fair, I actually agree that GTA games largely get b...
Magical Forum Fanboi
  09/09/13
tbf, Vice City holds its own
Well-lubricated dilemma
  09/09/13
this is retarded, they're very different games, both great
Black hot parlour
  09/09/13
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Aqua Institution Organic Girlfriend
  06/25/26
Overrated POS the real deal this fall will be the new X-C...
irate fragrant pit
  09/09/13
Are you referring to X-Com Declassified? Because it is SPS (...
fear-inspiring candlestick maker
  09/09/13
no, it's expansion to Enemies unknown, its called enemies wi...
irate fragrant pit
  09/09/13
(typical clitdicked gook)
Cerebral Charcoal Whorehouse
  09/09/13
Smart people play EU.
appetizing native
  09/09/13
Lulz, EU is an alright turn based strategy game
fear-inspiring candlestick maker
  09/09/13
its the GOAT grand strategy game
Black hot parlour
  09/09/13
Eh, I would have to say the original Rome Total War is
fear-inspiring candlestick maker
  09/09/13
I would have to say you are wrong
Black hot parlour
  09/09/13
You're done here, there, everywhere.
appetizing native
  09/09/13
what is so good about EU
fear-inspiring candlestick maker
  09/09/13
It's the potus of games. Go back to Mortal Kombat bro.
appetizing native
  09/09/13
wtf is EU
Idiotic locale
  09/09/13
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Universalis
Abusive Temple
  09/09/13
(retard)
Cerebral Charcoal Whorehouse
  09/09/13
why does op keep making these shitty threads
Racy Boistinker
  09/09/13
lol at the idea that your taste in video games has to do wit...
Cerebral Charcoal Whorehouse
  09/09/13
will there be a new fallout? that's the only video game i ca...
Topaz Titillating Ladyboy
  09/09/13
...
Disrespectful Tantric Death Wish
  09/18/13
lol at you manchilds playing video games
180 genital piercing party of the first part
  09/09/13
I'm sure you're doing much more prestigious things with your...
apoplectic red state
  09/10/13
biglaw, drinking, fucking, poasting
180 genital piercing party of the first part
  09/10/13
cr
apoplectic red state
  09/10/13
no hobbies?
Black hot parlour
  09/10/13
cardio, violent sports, cooking for girls before I fuck them
180 genital piercing party of the first part
  09/10/13
nothing creative at all? im not saying you should pick up ga...
Black hot parlour
  09/10/13
how is gaming creative? I cook, and that certainly has more ...
180 genital piercing party of the first part
  09/10/13
im not saying gaming is creative at all, its not. i meant so...
Black hot parlour
  09/10/13
I write all day for a living. fuck that. I want to spend my ...
180 genital piercing party of the first part
  09/10/13
you can do all of these things and still sustain a hobby
Black hot parlour
  09/10/13
Ever watch some tv or a movie?
apoplectic red state
  09/10/13
at gym or while cooking. otherwise too passive for me
180 genital piercing party of the first part
  09/10/13
More like GTA is a smart person's Saints Row.
apoplectic red state
  09/10/13
I enjoyed both I found fallout to be the more intelligent ga...
pearly nursing home
  09/10/13


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Date: September 9th, 2013 8:45 PM
Author: Abusive Temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022442)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 8:49 PM
Author: Magical Forum Fanboi

GTA V will be the greatest game of all time hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022472)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 8:51 PM
Author: Abusive Temple

It doesn't appeal to me at all.

It probably won't be top 20 though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022492)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 8:54 PM
Author: fear-inspiring candlestick maker

are you retarded?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022522)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 8:57 PM
Author: Abusive Temple

GTA games always have shitty stories and the gameplay is never really that fun. Although I haven't played GTA V, I feel like they made it too much like past GTA games rather than trying to move beyond them and take the series to the next level. They should have dropped stuff like the wanted meter and made it more like Fallout/Skyrim. The amount of money they spend on this game is staggering and that shows in the graphics, but graphics can only take you so far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022553)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:00 PM
Author: Magical Forum Fanboi

San Andreas had a fantastic story IMO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022578)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:04 PM
Author: Abusive Temple

I thought it was boring and shitty. I will give GTA this though, the voice acting really is second to none. I feel like they could do amazing things with all the money they spend on these games, but the gameplay is always boring and repetitive. It's a shame really.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022612)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:08 PM
Author: Magical Forum Fanboi

Shitty by what standard?

Obviously San andreas' story is nothing compared to old Squaresoft RPGs but it's as good as anything in Western games (which I'll admit tend to be pretty weak story wise in general but the Japanese aren't making anything on the level of Chrono Trigger anymore so the standard is different).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022655)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:09 PM
Author: Abusive Temple

"s but it's as good as anything in Western game"

Play Planescape Torment or Baldur's Gate and then get back to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022662)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:13 PM
Author: Black hot parlour

why are RPGs the only metric you are can compare this too? GTA is an sandbox action game, the story is should be an after-thought at best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022710)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:15 PM
Author: Abusive Temple

Action games should have good stories too, so I'm not sure what your point is. I also don't know why Rockstar would spend insane amounts of money on all this voice acting if they didn't care about the story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022723)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:22 PM
Author: Black hot parlour

did not say that they "didnt care" about the story, obviously, but the emphasis is not primarily on story like it is an a RPG. no one plays GTA for the story (unlike most RPGs), they do it to go fuck some stuff up and play exciting/fun missions in an immersive sandbox where you're given the freedom to do whatever you want and crazy stuff happens frequently. You are missing the entire point of this game, and its not surprising that you dont understand its rampant popularity and critical acclaim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022778)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:24 PM
Author: Abusive Temple

I guess we just disagree about the importance of story in video games. I think it's one of the most important elements, and having a bad story really holds a game back imho. In any case, GTA also has shitty and repetitive gameplay. It gives you the freedom to wander around killing people, not the freedom to explore and do interesting things (including killing people). It's clearly worse than games like Skyrim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022804)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:30 PM
Author: Black hot parlour

I think story is important for RPGs, but I would never say story is important in every game. By this metric, FIFA would be unplayable

skyrim gets repetitive eventually, "Go to the town of Bumblefuck and retrieve my buttplug from a locked box in the nun's quarters in exchange for the key to Lord Byron's wardrobe" gets old after about 40~hours. GTAIV (which you haven't even played) has a large variance of missions and from what ive seen of GTAV, it has even more variance.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022839)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:32 PM
Author: Racy Boistinker

cr. GTA IV has the most variety of missions of any GTA game i've played. the racing sequences alone were more interesting than any actual racing game. there were also multiple points at which you're asked to make a decision that critically impacts the game's narrative. the op has literally no fucking clue what he's babbling about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022853)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 10:05 PM
Author: galvanic fighting kitchen digit ratio

I skipped all the cut scenes so when I had to make a choice I had no idea wtf I was doing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24023141)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:32 PM
Author: Abusive Temple

I do think that games like FIFA are in a lower tier

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022855)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:33 PM
Author: Black hot parlour

lol at you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022863)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:39 PM
Author: fear-inspiring candlestick maker

Lol. JFC.

I guess you would need someone to play with to truly enjoy the game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022898)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:40 PM
Author: Abusive Temple

Calm down man, you seem like you are MAF that we have different tastes in video games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022907)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 11:19 PM
Author: insecure macaca coffee pot

Skyrim is boring as shit, but real RPGs like mass effect or baldur's gate are far superior.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24023712)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 11:11 PM
Author: Wine Stubborn Abode

I thought GTA IV had too much story actually, I get bored watching long cut scenes, just want to play.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24023650)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 10:51 PM
Author: galvanic fighting kitchen digit ratio

lol @ the "immersive sandbox." You can play pool and watch Katt Williams do standbox. BFD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24023510)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:04 PM
Author: Well-lubricated dilemma

GTA IV is the number one game of all time on metacritic.

Only one game can dislodge it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022618)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:06 PM
Author: Abusive Temple

I'm not sure why you think that's a good argument, but okay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022633)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:07 PM
Author: Well-lubricated dilemma

"It probably won't be top 20 though."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022641)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:10 PM
Author: Abusive Temple

"I think that everyone else accepts metacritic as a ranking system"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022672)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:10 PM
Author: Black hot parlour

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022685)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:10 PM
Author: fear-inspiring candlestick maker

pwned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022680)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 8:56 PM
Author: galvanic fighting kitchen digit ratio

If it's anything like the others it will get boring right around the same time you realize you've heard all the shit on the radio. They should have a feature where the radio gets updated online with new material.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022540)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 8:59 PM
Author: Magical Forum Fanboi

To be fair,

I actually agree that GTA games largely get by on a certain novelty factor and tend to become stale as fuck when it wears off, but V looks like it's going to have so much new shit going on, and such compelling characters, that this installment will buck the trend and be the series' GOAT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022569)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:06 PM
Author: Well-lubricated dilemma

tbf,

Vice City holds its own

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022627)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:07 PM
Author: Black hot parlour

this is retarded, they're very different games, both great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022636)



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Date: June 25th, 2026 4:17 PM
Author: Aqua Institution Organic Girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#49962751)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:18 PM
Author: irate fragrant pit

Overrated POS

the real deal this fall will be the new X-COM expansion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022746)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:20 PM
Author: fear-inspiring candlestick maker

Are you referring to X-Com Declassified? Because it is SPS (and I like X-Com enemy unknown)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022761)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:23 PM
Author: irate fragrant pit

no, it's expansion to Enemies unknown, its called enemies within. it's gonna be siiick:

http://xcom.wikia.com/wiki/XCOM:_Enemy_Within

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022790)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 10:27 PM
Author: Cerebral Charcoal Whorehouse

(typical clitdicked gook)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24023339)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:19 PM
Author: appetizing native

Smart people play EU.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022754)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:21 PM
Author: fear-inspiring candlestick maker

Lulz, EU is an alright turn based strategy game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022769)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:22 PM
Author: Black hot parlour

its the GOAT grand strategy game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022782)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:23 PM
Author: fear-inspiring candlestick maker

Eh, I would have to say the original Rome Total War is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022786)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:24 PM
Author: Black hot parlour

I would have to say you are wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022805)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:25 PM
Author: appetizing native

You're done here, there, everywhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022810)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:26 PM
Author: fear-inspiring candlestick maker

what is so good about EU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022819)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:22 PM
Author: appetizing native

It's the potus of games. Go back to Mortal Kombat bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022783)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:24 PM
Author: Idiotic locale

wtf is EU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022798)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:25 PM
Author: Abusive Temple

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Universalis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022813)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 10:27 PM
Author: Cerebral Charcoal Whorehouse

(retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24023341)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 9:20 PM
Author: Racy Boistinker

why does op keep making these shitty threads

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24022756)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 10:28 PM
Author: Cerebral Charcoal Whorehouse

lol at the idea that your taste in video games has to do with how "smart" you are. and lol at the idea that GTA isnt the only video game series worth playing in existence. kill your self you clitdicked virginal chink.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24023349)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 11:17 PM
Author: Topaz Titillating Ladyboy

will there be a new fallout? that's the only video game i care about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24023695)



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Date: September 18th, 2013 1:05 AM
Author: Disrespectful Tantric Death Wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24069371)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 11:36 PM
Author: 180 genital piercing party of the first part

lol at you manchilds playing video games

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24023846)



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Date: September 10th, 2013 12:01 AM
Author: apoplectic red state

I'm sure you're doing much more prestigious things with your time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24024009)



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Date: September 10th, 2013 12:02 AM
Author: 180 genital piercing party of the first part

biglaw, drinking, fucking, poasting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24024017)



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Date: September 10th, 2013 12:04 AM
Author: apoplectic red state

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24024034)



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Date: September 10th, 2013 12:04 AM
Author: Black hot parlour

no hobbies?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24024036)



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Date: September 10th, 2013 12:05 AM
Author: 180 genital piercing party of the first part

cardio, violent sports, cooking for girls before I fuck them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24024046)



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Date: September 10th, 2013 12:07 AM
Author: Black hot parlour

nothing creative at all? im not saying you should pick up gaming, but try to expand your horizons a little bit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24024068)



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Date: September 10th, 2013 12:09 AM
Author: 180 genital piercing party of the first part

how is gaming creative? I cook, and that certainly has more creative value than little basement boys manipulating pixels. also read a shitton, though that isn't really creative

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24024077)



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Date: September 10th, 2013 12:11 AM
Author: Black hot parlour

im not saying gaming is creative at all, its not. i meant something creative like writing or music performance. i feel like then you'd have a better appreciation for a hobby with limited utility

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24024096)



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Date: September 10th, 2013 12:13 AM
Author: 180 genital piercing party of the first part

I write all day for a living. fuck that. I want to spend my time fucking, eating, drinking or creating with my hands (even if it is just fingering some stupid NYC girl to orgasm)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24024118)



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Date: September 10th, 2013 12:18 AM
Author: Black hot parlour

you can do all of these things and still sustain a hobby

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24024165)



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Date: September 10th, 2013 12:13 AM
Author: apoplectic red state

Ever watch some tv or a movie?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24024123)



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Date: September 10th, 2013 12:15 AM
Author: 180 genital piercing party of the first part

at gym or while cooking. otherwise too passive for me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2358555&forum_id=2).#24024140)



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Date: September 10th, 2013 12:01 AM
Author: apoplectic red state

More like GTA is a smart person's Saints Row.

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Date: September 10th, 2013 12:04 AM
Author: pearly nursing home

I enjoyed both I found fallout to be the more intelligent game. Its story is a subtle and at times satirical take on American wartime culture. The characters are surprisingly deep and it's hard for player not to feel empathy for those many lost souls that you encounter in those barren wastelands. Some of the little stories that emerge from the sidequests were surprisingly clever.

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