\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
Saffron Concupiscible Tank
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
kink-friendly church building faggot firefighter
  06/15/18
...
talented famous landscape painting
  06/15/18
...
talented famous landscape painting
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
excitant dull doctorate nibblets
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
Greedy hyperactive laser beams
  10/06/21
...
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  02/12/22
...
Echoes of Wisdom
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
Cheese-eating hairless pozpig
  06/15/18
...
talented famous landscape painting
  06/15/18
...
fighting lodge dog poop
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
Cheese-eating hairless pozpig
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
Vermilion big-titted ticket booth internal respiration
  06/15/18
...
Crimson Hunting Ground Windowlicker
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
talented famous landscape painting
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
Hilarious senate pisswyrm
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
Slimy provocative house
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
Zippy immigrant property
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
excitant dull doctorate nibblets
  06/15/18
sounds 180
Cheese-eating hairless pozpig
  06/15/18
...
Crimson Hunting Ground Windowlicker
  06/15/18
...
fighting lodge dog poop
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
shimmering dingle berry
  06/15/18
...
talented famous landscape painting
  06/15/18
...
kink-friendly church building faggot firefighter
  06/15/18
...
fighting lodge dog poop
  06/15/18
https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
fighting lodge dog poop
  06/15/18
...
Zippy immigrant property
  06/15/18
...
swollen idea he suggested
  06/15/18
...
fighting lodge dog poop
  02/15/21
...
swollen idea he suggested
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  10/06/21
...
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  01/18/25
...
I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
Arousing blue hall dragon
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
pearly bawdyhouse gay wizard
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
pearly bawdyhouse gay wizard
  06/15/18
Explain
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  06/15/18
...
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  06/16/18
...
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  09/04/18
...
swollen idea he suggested
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
Spectacular University Halford
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
Elite wonderful brunch chad
  06/15/18
...
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  02/12/21
...
stubborn multi-colored affirmative action
  02/12/21
...
fighting lodge dog poop
  02/15/21
...
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
twisted pungent locale
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
big pea-brained cuck
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
supple opaque gaming laptop stage
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
supple opaque gaming laptop stage
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Contagious center
  02/12/21
...
stubborn multi-colored affirmative action
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
twisted pungent locale
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Contagious center
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
bronze judgmental theatre
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
Contagious center
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
bronze judgmental theatre
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
big pea-brained cuck
  02/12/21
lol no
onyx shrine nowag
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
Curious pit friendly grandma
  02/15/21
...
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  06/29/21
...
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  10/06/21
...
Violent naked fortuitous meteor
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
histrionic chapel
  10/06/21
...
tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner
  02/12/22


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252934)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Saffron Concupiscible Tank

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252952)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: kink-friendly church building faggot firefighter

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253562)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: talented famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253586)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: talented famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43955228)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: excitant dull doctorate nibblets

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252972)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: Greedy hyperactive laser beams

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43231415)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43955203)



Reply Favorite

Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: Echoes of Wisdom ((zurich is stained))



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#49178217)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Cheese-eating hairless pozpig

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252979)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: talented famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253066)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: fighting lodge dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253623)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Cheese-eating hairless pozpig

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252984)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Vermilion big-titted ticket booth internal respiration

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252989)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Crimson Hunting Ground Windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253024)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: talented famous landscape painting

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253068)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Hilarious senate pisswyrm

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252986)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Slimy provocative house

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935785)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Zippy immigrant property

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252995)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: excitant dull doctorate nibblets

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253002)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Cheese-eating hairless pozpig

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253004)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Crimson Hunting Ground Windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253030)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: fighting lodge dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253696)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: shimmering dingle berry

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253012)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: talented famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253073)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: kink-friendly church building faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253597)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: fighting lodge dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253628)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: fighting lodge dog poop

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253692)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Zippy immigrant property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253708)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: swollen idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36254559)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: fighting lodge dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41949790)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: swollen idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43231423)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43231447)



Reply Favorite

Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#48564541)



Reply Favorite

Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#49178251)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Arousing blue hall dragon

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253074)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253521)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: pearly bawdyhouse gay wizard

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253537)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner

Eat my dick nigger lover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253786)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: pearly bawdyhouse gay wizard

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36254215)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36254517)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36256523)



Reply Favorite

Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36743851)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: swollen idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36254823)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Spectacular University Halford

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253827)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: Elite wonderful brunch chad

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36254339)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933386)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: stubborn multi-colored affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933826)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: fighting lodge dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41949789)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43271055)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: twisted pungent locale

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933507)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: big pea-brained cuck

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933521)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933783)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: supple opaque gaming laptop stage

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933832)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933852)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: supple opaque gaming laptop stage

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933882)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41949761)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Contagious center

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933851)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: stubborn multi-colored affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933950)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: twisted pungent locale

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935758)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Contagious center

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935989)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: bronze judgmental theatre

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935999)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Contagious center

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41936016)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: bronze judgmental theatre

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41936043)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: big pea-brained cuck

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935792)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: onyx shrine nowag

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935828)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: Curious pit friendly grandma

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41949811)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#42703414)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43231403)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Violent naked fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43231440)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: histrionic chapel

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43231452)



Reply Favorite

Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: tripping know-it-all twinkling uncleanness corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43955207)