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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
Cream toilet seat faggotry
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
unholy carmine senate skinny woman
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
Arousing Insane Affirmative Action
  06/15/18
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Adventurous Principal's Office
  06/15/18
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Adventurous Principal's Office
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
electric den alpha
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
Metal Gas Station
  10/06/21
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Cream toilet seat faggotry
  02/12/22
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Coprophilia Johnny
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
ivory hyperactive dingle berry
  06/15/18
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Adventurous Principal's Office
  06/15/18
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Pungent Fishy Place Of Business Newt
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
ivory hyperactive dingle berry
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
confused foreskin
  06/15/18
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Demanding area coffee pot
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
Adventurous Principal's Office
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
Magical talented french chef
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
deranged address
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
plum partner
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
electric den alpha
  06/15/18
sounds 180
ivory hyperactive dingle berry
  06/15/18
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Demanding area coffee pot
  06/15/18
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Pungent Fishy Place Of Business Newt
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
talking swashbuckling school turdskin
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Adventurous Principal's Office
  06/15/18
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Arousing Insane Affirmative Action
  06/15/18
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Pungent Fishy Place Of Business Newt
  06/15/18
https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
Pungent Fishy Place Of Business Newt
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plum partner
  06/15/18
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Hairraiser green cumskin theatre
  06/15/18
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Pungent Fishy Place Of Business Newt
  02/15/21
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Hairraiser green cumskin theatre
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
Cream toilet seat faggotry
  10/06/21
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Cream toilet seat faggotry
  01/18/25
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
erotic pervert chad
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
Cream toilet seat faggotry
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
Topaz garrison
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
Cream toilet seat faggotry
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
Topaz garrison
  06/15/18
Explain
Cream toilet seat faggotry
  06/15/18
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Cream toilet seat faggotry
  06/16/18
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Cream toilet seat faggotry
  09/04/18
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Hairraiser green cumskin theatre
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
Awkward razzle-dazzle stag film marketing idea
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
outnumbered resort
  06/15/18
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Cream toilet seat faggotry
  02/12/21
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brilliant flickering ladyboy
  02/12/21
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Pungent Fishy Place Of Business Newt
  02/15/21
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Cream toilet seat faggotry
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
maize locale
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
Concupiscible abnormal wrinkle
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
Cream toilet seat faggotry
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
underhanded galvanic trust fund
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
Cream toilet seat faggotry
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
underhanded galvanic trust fund
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
Cream toilet seat faggotry
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Orange flatulent hall hominid
  02/12/21
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brilliant flickering ladyboy
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
maize locale
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Orange flatulent hall hominid
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
Brindle spectacular base immigrant
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
Orange flatulent hall hominid
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
Brindle spectacular base immigrant
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
Concupiscible abnormal wrinkle
  02/12/21
lol no
geriatric irate sneaky criminal useless brakes
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
Charismatic Location
  02/15/21
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Cream toilet seat faggotry
  06/29/21
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Cream toilet seat faggotry
  10/06/21
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Pea-brained Appetizing Abode Degenerate
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
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  10/06/21
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Cream toilet seat faggotry
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: unholy carmine senate skinny woman

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Arousing Insane Affirmative Action

As I understand it.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Adventurous Principal's Office



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: Adventurous Principal's Office



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: electric den alpha

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: Metal Gas Station

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: Coprophilia Johnny ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: ivory hyperactive dingle berry

they have no debt as I understand it

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Adventurous Principal's Office



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Pungent Fishy Place Of Business Newt



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: ivory hyperactive dingle berry

260k is a huge salary

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: confused foreskin

goes a long way in shaker heights

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Demanding area coffee pot



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Adventurous Principal's Office

Cr. Thats city janitor money

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Magical talented french chef

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: deranged address

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: plum partner

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: electric den alpha

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: ivory hyperactive dingle berry

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Demanding area coffee pot



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Pungent Fishy Place Of Business Newt



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: talking swashbuckling school turdskin

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Adventurous Principal's Office



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Arousing Insane Affirmative Action



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Pungent Fishy Place Of Business Newt



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Pungent Fishy Place Of Business Newt

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: plum partner



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Hairraiser green cumskin theatre



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Pungent Fishy Place Of Business Newt



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: Hairraiser green cumskin theatre



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: erotic pervert chad

omg 260k where do they get off

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Topaz garrison

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry

Eat my dick nigger lover

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Topaz garrison

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry

Explain

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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Hairraiser green cumskin theatre



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Awkward razzle-dazzle stag film marketing idea

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: outnumbered resort

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: brilliant flickering ladyboy



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Pungent Fishy Place Of Business Newt



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: maize locale

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: Concupiscible abnormal wrinkle

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: underhanded galvanic trust fund

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: underhanded galvanic trust fund

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Orange flatulent hall hominid

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: brilliant flickering ladyboy



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: maize locale

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Orange flatulent hall hominid

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: Brindle spectacular base immigrant

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Orange flatulent hall hominid

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: Brindle spectacular base immigrant

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: Concupiscible abnormal wrinkle

(Stevie Brogan)

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: geriatric irate sneaky criminal useless brakes

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: Charismatic Location

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Pea-brained Appetizing Abode Degenerate



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: flirting cordovan personal credit line

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2).#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: Cream toilet seat faggotry



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