The truth:

Epstein and Trump were close friends in the 90s but stopped talking to each other after Epstein's bust in 2005. That's also when Maxwell broke off contact with Epstein.

So Trump and Epstein go back, bigly. Trump has no reason to think he's on any kind of list, but he was tight as a drum with this guy for a long time. Until he wasn't.

As to whether Trump should pardon Maxwell: if Trump knew Maxwell, it was before 2005. He would have had no dealings with her for over a decade by the time she was arrested. And pre-2005 there's no particular reason to think Trump would have had any significant connection to her. He was probably tight with Epstein, but so what? Hence, he doesn't really know Maxwell and doesn't know what she'd say if she talked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2).#49103672)

Date: July 15th, 2025 3:42 PM

Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK

Nothing Tucker is saying is true. There were no blackmail tapes, and the guy never worked for Mossad. That was never even practical. It never made any real sense because there was never any effective way to release the blackmail. It's like the pager bombs: once you do it, you give away your methods and you can never do it again.

The truth:

Epstein and Trump were close friends in the 90s but stopped talking to each other after Epstein's second bust in 2005. That's also when Maxwell broke off contact with Epstein.

So Trump and Epstein go back, bigly. Trump has no reason to think he's on any kind of list, but he was tight as a drum with this guy for a long time. Until he wasn't.

As to whether Trump should pardon Maxwell: if Trump knew Maxwell, it was before 2005. He would have had no dealings with her for over a decade by the time she was arrested. And pre-2005 there's no particular reason to think Trump would have had any significant connection to her. He was probably tight with Epstein, but so what? Hence, he doesn't really know Maxwell and doesn't know what she'd say if she talked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2#49103672)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2).#49103698)

He openly worked with that group of kikes in the 90s who were affiliated with Mossad. Forget the name, it was like study group or something. I'm sure someone else will chime in with it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2).#49103680)

It was literally called the study group lol. I mean Epstein for sure worked with these guys this is public knowledge. But I agree with you that Trump and others who are still active in public life hadn't been associating with him for a long time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2).#49103688)

Date: July 15th, 2025 3:51 PM

Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK

That looks like an American jew thing. I mean I see the connection, but I can also see an American Jew getting roped into that without ever once setting foot in Israel. If you want to convince me there's a Mossad connection I'd need to see more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2#49103695)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2).#49103700)

Trump, along with others including Clinton, also appeared several times on flight logs for Epstein’s private jet.

A 2002 New York magazine profile of Epstein quoted Trump. “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Trump said. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Both men said that they subsequently had a falling-out. Trump has said their friendship ended before Epstein pleaded guilty to procuring a minor for prostitution in 2008, served time in a Florida jail and registered as a sex offender.

When Epstein was arrested again in 2019, Trump said he hadn’t talked to Epstein for about 15 years. “I knew him like everybody in Palm Beach knew him,” Trump said in the Oval Office at that time. “I was not a fan of his, that I can tell you.”

https://www.wsj.com/politics/trump-jeffrey-epstein-birthday-letter-we-have-certain-things-in-common-f918d796?mod=author_content_page_1_pos_1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2).#49110166)

how does he do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2).#49110185)

Mossad and the 100 men implicated in 'the files' have a gun to Trump's head to bury it. they've already killed multiple people involved (including Epstein himself).

there's no practical way Trump could try to be a hero and 'release the files' -- implicating everyone from the King of England to Israel to half the US power elite. it would be the end of the presiding world order, total collapse. there's no incentive for Trump to do it. he loses everything in the process.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2).#49110200)

like you said, there's never been any incentive for anyone in the US government to investigate this. it doesn't make any sense that people in the US government would have overseen investigation and data collection on a case (assuming this is true) that essentially completely de-legitimizes the establishment order

either this general theory is true, in which case it makes no sense for there to be info kept "on file" that vindicates it, or it's not true, in which case there isn't any info on file because it's not real

either way i really just don't think that the government has or ever had any "epstein files" to begin with, beyond what they've already released earlier this year (flight logs, contact book, etc)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2).#49110215)

The real "news" isn't the absence of blackmail tapes, it's that the investigation into Prince Andrew is now closed and there's no risk the US will seek to extradite his ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2).#49110231)

there is redacted FBI testimony from the girls (many of whom have since died suspiciously) detailing who/what/when/where.

there is plenty to release. there hasn't even been a proper investigation.

we know how much 'baby oil' Puff Daddy had in his residence down to the tenth of an ounce, but we have zero details about anything related to Epstein.

(if we're equivocating on the meaning of 'the files' to say 'there are no files because we haven't investigated' then do the investigation, sure)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2).#49110238)

the entire sex "angle" of the epstein case is just a non starter. he and maxwell groomed girls for epstein to bang and then some of them banged the other guys who he invited to his parties. i assume trump is one of the guys who banged one of these girls at least once and that's why he's so paranoid about the whole epstein thing. this kind of goofy prole bait meaningless nonsense doesn't matter at all and yet sadly it's what 99% of people actually care about

the meaningful meat of the scandal - if there is a scandal - is epstein's involvement with mossad and US intelligence. it seems extremely unlikely that any evidence of this exists in the hands of the US government, for the reasons i laid out in my post above. whether or not this is true, we're never going to see any evidence about it, for the reasons i laid out above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2).#49110265)

saying 'oh, the sex stuff is salacious prolebait' is retarded. it's the whole point.

you do blackmail by collecting blackmail material. that's how it is accomplished ---> that's what is at least in part on the hard drives. or else there is a trail to follow to Mossad or wherever. follow?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2).#49110294)

you are dumb as shit and historically illiterate if you do not understand the phenomenon of kompromat/blackmail.

this is you: 'Hurr DuRr! Blackmail is impossible because, like, once someone does it it will never work again! It must therefore never have existed'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2).#49110321)

https://theamericansun.substack.com/p/epstein-was-a-money-guy

this is a pretty good summary of my POV on the matter. yes, epstein was a jewish/israeli/mossad agent who worked for and with jews to facilitate jewish interests. no, he didn't collect blackmail on people or run a blackmail operation. no, he wasn't a "pedophile" or whatever goofy prole "consensual heterosexual sex with hot teens is heckin bad" nonsense people want to believe. yes, he was a bad dude because jews and jewish interests and jewish influence in the west is a bad thing

it's very unlikely that the government has any hard evidence that "proves" any of this, because he almost certainly helped elements of the US government illicitly move money around, too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750713&forum_id=2).#49110329)