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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Angry cocky address
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
light mad-dog skullcap site
  12/16/25
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Angry cocky address
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
bistre stage patrolman
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
light mad-dog skullcap site
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
bistre stage patrolman
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
light mad-dog skullcap site
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
bistre stage patrolman
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Angry cocky address
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
light mad-dog skullcap site
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
bistre stage patrolman
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
light mad-dog skullcap site
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Shlomo Dreidlowitz
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Norm McDonalds
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  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Bronze Cruise Ship Voyeur
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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Bronze Cruise Ship Voyeur
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Talented Flushed Corn Cake
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
light mad-dog skullcap site
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
mind-boggling gunner cumskin
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
light mad-dog skullcap site
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
bearded metal weed whacker senate
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Norm McDonalds
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Purple temple
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Salmon out-of-control stage
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potluck
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Norm McDonalds
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Norm McDonalds
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Shlomo Dreidlowitz
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Apoplectic dopamine trump supporter
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Angry cocky address



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: light mad-dog skullcap site

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Angry cocky address

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: bistre stage patrolman

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: light mad-dog skullcap site

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: bistre stage patrolman

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: light mad-dog skullcap site

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: bistre stage patrolman

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Angry cocky address

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: light mad-dog skullcap site

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: bistre stage patrolman

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: light mad-dog skullcap site

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Shlomo Dreidlowitz

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Norm McDonalds (דירה בתחתונים)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,




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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Bronze Cruise Ship Voyeur

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: light mad-dog skullcap site

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Bronze Cruise Ship Voyeur



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Talented Flushed Corn Cake

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: light mad-dog skullcap site

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: mind-boggling gunner cumskin

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: light mad-dog skullcap site

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: bearded metal weed whacker senate

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: light mad-dog skullcap site



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Norm McDonalds (דירה בתחתונים)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Purple temple

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Salmon out-of-control stage

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,




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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: potluck



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Norm McDonalds (דירה בתחתונים)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Norm McDonalds (דירה בתחתונים)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Shlomo Dreidlowitz

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Apoplectic dopamine trump supporter

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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