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Alasdair MacIntyre: “the new dark ages which are already upon us”

This paragraph in particular really stuck with me. “...
Startled Masturbator
  02/16/21
link plz
turquoise narrow-minded boltzmann
  03/29/21
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue
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  03/29/21
"construction of local forms of community within which ...
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*hair shirted Thomists gather itt*
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this is a second Renaissance
Flickering ape clown
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just another retard who spent his life inside the ivory towe...
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Harsh but fair
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After Virtue is 180
glittery snowy internal respiration
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he is 180
excitant native
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That poaster that linked the society decline post 71 graphs ...
Startled Masturbator
  02/16/21
link? what books of his have you read?
excitant native
  02/16/21
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue https://you...
Startled Masturbator
  02/16/21
The visigoths were smarter & more moral than the romans
beta bistre temple digit ratio
  02/16/21
Hard to make a distinction by the end.
Startled Masturbator
  02/16/21
only of you're a drunk Roman
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Lol @ premils
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quit trying to relate the present day situation to ancient h...
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even the most optimistic accounts of american culture / empi...
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i was in customs once in santo domingo, and some black dude ...
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dominicans are unironically natsoc
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Date: February 16th, 2021 11:21 AM
Author: Startled Masturbator

This paragraph in particular really stuck with me.

“A crucial turning point in that earlier history occurred when men and women of good will turned aside from the task of shoring up the Roman imperium and ceased to identify the continuation of civility and moral community with the maintenance of that imperium. What they set themselves to achieve instead often not recognizing fully what they were doing—was the construction of new forms of community within which the moral life could be sustained so that both morality and civility might survive the coming ages of barbarism and darkness. If my account of our moral condition is correct, we ought also to conclude that for some time now we too have reached that turning point. What matters at this stage is the construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained through the new dark ages which are already upon us.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#41954317)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: turquoise narrow-minded boltzmann

link plz

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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:31 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#42183802)



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Date: October 11th, 2021 11:14 PM
Author: opaque persian

"construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained"

move to the sticks and make good with everyone you can.

sounds good to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#43258556)



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Date: March 14th, 2024 2:35 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:14 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: topaz french chef



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: Trip Dog Poop



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:18 PM
Author: lake hyperventilating legal warrant

*hair shirted Thomists gather itt*

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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:26 PM
Author: Flickering ape clown

this is a second Renaissance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#41957423)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:28 PM
Author: Alcoholic whorehouse

just another retard who spent his life inside the ivory tower reading classical bullshit and seeing vandals and visigoths everywhere when he ventures outside the campus. charles taylor is tcr communitarian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#41957439)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:30 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator

Harsh but fair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#41957810)



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 11:18 AM
Author: Vengeful sound barrier



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: Galvanic forum



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Date: June 5th, 2023 10:52 PM
Author: Vengeful sound barrier



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:40 PM
Author: glittery snowy internal respiration

After Virtue is 180

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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:31 PM
Author: excitant native

he is 180

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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:34 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator

That poaster that linked the society decline post 71 graphs really drove home the point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#41957825)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:50 PM
Author: excitant native

link?

what books of his have you read?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#41957902)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue

https://youtu.be/7_ssRpso9e8?t=2626

This little snippet really drives it home though and makes the leap from seemingly magical tech to us being in a full fledge culture extinction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#41958239)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:44 PM
Author: beta bistre temple digit ratio

The visigoths were smarter & more moral than the romans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#41957873)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:46 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator

Hard to make a distinction by the end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#41957881)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 9:37 PM
Author: Khaki university fat ankles

only of you're a drunk Roman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#41958115)



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Date: February 17th, 2021 7:38 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: February 17th, 2021 7:39 PM
Author: Sticky comical locale

Lol @ premils

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#41963758)



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Date: February 20th, 2021 11:50 AM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: February 20th, 2021 12:03 PM
Author: excitant native



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Date: March 2nd, 2021 12:19 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: March 18th, 2021 12:02 AM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:26 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:27 PM
Author: puce demanding associate

quit trying to relate the present day situation to ancient history...it's not the same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#42183780)



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Date: October 21st, 2021 1:48 PM
Author: turquoise narrow-minded boltzmann

It is always dangerous to draw too precise parallels between one historical period and another; and among the most misleading of such parallels are those which have been drawn between our own age in Europe and North America and the epoch in which the Roman empire declined into the Dark Ages. Nonetheless certain parallels there are. A crucial turning point in that earlier history occurred when men and women of good will turned aside from the task of shoring up the Roman imperium and ceased to identify the continuation of civility and moral community with the maintenance of that imperium. What they set themselves to achieve instead–often not recognizing fully what they were doing–was the construction of new forms of community within which the moral life could be sustained so that both morality and civility might survive the coming ages of barbarism and darkness. If my account of our moral condition, we ought also to conclude that for some time now we too have reached that turning point. What matters at this stage is the construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained through the new dark ages which are already upon us. And if the tradition of the virtues was able to survive the horrors of the last dark ages, we are not entirely without grounds for hope. This time, however, the barbarians are not waiting beyond the frontiers; they have already been governing us for quite some time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#43308041)



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Date: April 14th, 2021 10:16 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 11:15 AM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: April 30th, 2021 7:19 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: October 1st, 2021 12:10 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:42 AM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:48 AM
Author: gay hideous den friendly grandma

even the most optimistic accounts of american culture / empire now have to admit that there is, by any description, no shared purpose. all the "good" things that can happen these days are things that would benefit you or your family. Get comparatively rich, get a better job, etc. No one even considers benefits to the community or "America". And sure as shit no one will accept personal detriment for America's improvement.

This has to be a clear sign that it's over. Im reminded of those videos of Army doods all saying "lol fuck the Army, my recruiter lied, this sucks", rating it as they would a job or college. Imagine asking enlisted men to consider their lives as contributing to America's glory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#43235671)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:53 AM
Author: misunderstood step-uncle's house



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Date: October 7th, 2021 10:19 AM
Author: gay hideous den friendly grandma

i was in customs once in santo domingo, and some black dude got pulled out of line. "are you dominican?" they asked him

The dude got all worked up, "me?! Dominican as fuck! Pure blood. Dominican to my core!" etc

Tried to imagine someone being so insulted and prideful about being american, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2).#43235780)



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Date: August 27th, 2024 8:12 PM
Author: turquoise narrow-minded boltzmann

dominicans are unironically natsoc

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Date: October 7th, 2021 10:29 AM
Author: Startled Masturbator

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSdnESSU-WRTBliI5nWkh_dlW_H3tOaxC

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Date: October 11th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: October 21st, 2021 1:45 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: March 3rd, 2022 7:03 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: March 4th, 2022 10:32 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: March 4th, 2022 10:38 PM
Author: titillating canary theatre



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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:47 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: April 25th, 2022 1:27 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: June 3rd, 2023 6:48 PM
Author: Offensive frisky locus



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Date: June 5th, 2023 10:03 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:30 PM
Author: hyperactive crackhouse

every age deals with this and it's the MONASTIC communities who carry the flame when the wheels come off.



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Date: November 7th, 2023 8:33 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: February 27th, 2024 8:32 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: February 27th, 2024 8:37 PM
Author: multi-colored wine candlestick maker



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Date: August 27th, 2024 8:06 PM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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Date: July 9th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: Startled Masturbator



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