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Why does "AAA gaming" cost so much anymore? The developer tools are simple

There isn't that much magic required to make these fancy gra...
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It’s the voice acting and music/sound design afaict. T...
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I've always skipped every cutscene in every video game. Once...
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The MGS games are pretty dense and esoteric as far as video ...
Wonderful flirting round eye
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You know what’s even more insane? Death Stranding
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Yeah yeah I’ll get to it champ.
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Why can't I just hit ESC and skip to the game? It woudn'nt d...
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You can always skip cutscenes if you want to afaik.
Wonderful flirting round eye
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Once in a while there's one you absolutely cannot skip, and ...
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Most of them are horrible. MGS is a triumph but it started a...
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Western narratives don’t even come close to MGS ime. T...
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By far GTA has been the best among western games I’ve ...
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I played through the entirety of RDR2 because it was like a ...
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IIRC this game was another one where you snipe guard towers ...
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MGS5 maybe. The gameplay has evolved over the course of the ...
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I only ever liked scripted games where they give you a disti...
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In GTA it’s fun to go on rampages imo
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The cops should be realistic. There shouldn't be an infinite...
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They call in the FBI and army you philistine
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That's fine, it should still be realistic. In real life the ...
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The FBI isn’t much stronger than the cops iirc
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Right, but they can also take their time. You could be on th...
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C-suite salaries & benefits, hundreds of email girl prod...
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Western developers make like a 7% ROI on software. It’...
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could just skip the whole thing and put the money right in t...
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It’s not “AAA” if you aren’t setting...
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What do you mean "supposed to be?" Hardly anything...
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I mean in software in general. Because the only cost is pay...
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Re-read OP
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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: spectacular disturbing useless brakes stag film

There isn't that much magic required to make these fancy graphics anymore, and ray tracing will make it even easier in the future. If a "AAA game" is just a game with fancy graphics, it's a meaningless term.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851149)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:27 PM
Author: Wonderful flirting round eye

It’s the voice acting and music/sound design afaict. There’s all kinds of shovelware on Steam with “good graphix” and TTT production values.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851159)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: spectacular disturbing useless brakes stag film

I've always skipped every cutscene in every video game. Once I played MGS and the opening cutscene was so long I just went and did chores until it was over. I don't believe any of these games have compelling plots or character arcs. Super Mario games have plenty of that without cutscenes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851164)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Wonderful flirting round eye

The MGS games are pretty dense and esoteric as far as video game plots go imo. They are legitimately insane which is always a mark of genius. Btw MGS3 is being re-released in October, gonna be great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851168)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:34 PM
Author: Flushed fragrant home

You know what’s even more insane? Death Stranding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851171)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:35 PM
Author: Wonderful flirting round eye

Yeah yeah I’ll get to it champ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851175)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:40 PM
Author: spectacular disturbing useless brakes stag film

Why can't I just hit ESC and skip to the game? It woudn'nt deprive you the ability to watch cutscenes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851190)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:47 PM
Author: Wonderful flirting round eye

You can always skip cutscenes if you want to afaik.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851220)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 10:11 PM
Author: spectacular disturbing useless brakes stag film

Once in a while there's one you absolutely cannot skip, and sometimes I have to make dialogue choices without knowing who you're talking to or what they're even talking about. When I played Cyberpunk it seemed like it was just 30 minutes of dialogue choices, and if you didn't watch the cutscenes they didn't make any sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851318)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:35 PM
Author: Flushed fragrant home

Most of them are horrible. MGS is a triumph but it started a trend with copycat westerners

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851176)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:37 PM
Author: Wonderful flirting round eye

Western narratives don’t even come close to MGS ime. The most competent has been GTA/RDR through recreating Hollywood tropes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851182)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:42 PM
Author: Flushed fragrant home

By far GTA has been the best among western games I’ve played afaik. RDR was too boring for me to get into iirc. Westerns need something interesting about them like John Wayne or insane Italian filmmaking or else 😴

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851197)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:53 PM
Author: Wonderful flirting round eye

I played through the entirety of RDR2 because it was like a 50s epic western, like Rio Bravo. GTA5 was basically Heat but worse. I don’t know if GTA6 can transcend the extremely lame cultural milieu that permeates almost every piece of entertainment now. It will probably be like a Fast and Furious movie with Latinix concessions and make me want to stop playing imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851237)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:41 PM
Author: spectacular disturbing useless brakes stag film

IIRC this game was another one where you snipe guard towers and alarms, then collect loot after you've sniped everyone from a mile away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851193)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:44 PM
Author: Flushed fragrant home

MGS5 maybe. The gameplay has evolved over the course of the series. Ground Zeroes was the best part of the whole series by far in terms of “stealth gameplay.”



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851205)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:45 PM
Author: spectacular disturbing useless brakes stag film

I only ever liked scripted games where they give you a distinct mission. I remember liking the Splinter Cell games. GTAshit is just the same thing on repeat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851214)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:47 PM
Author: Flushed fragrant home

In GTA it’s fun to go on rampages imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851219)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:55 PM
Author: spectacular disturbing useless brakes stag film

The cops should be realistic. There shouldn't be an infinite number of them appearing out of nowhere just because your crimes were severe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851247)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 10:04 PM
Author: Flushed fragrant home

They call in the FBI and army you philistine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851291)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: spectacular disturbing useless brakes stag film

That's fine, it should still be realistic. In real life the FBI wouldn't be able to stop you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851322)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 10:27 PM
Author: Flushed fragrant home

The FBI isn’t much stronger than the cops iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851392)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 10:32 PM
Author: spectacular disturbing useless brakes stag film

Right, but they can also take their time. You could be on their "most wanted" list for a few years, then BAM! when you least expect it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851409)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:36 PM
Author: adventurous at-the-ready station pervert

C-suite salaries & benefits, hundreds of email girl product managers, shareholder profits, pretty much whatever we want

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851178)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 9:45 PM
Author: Flushed fragrant home

Western developers make like a 7% ROI on software. It’s supposed to be like 40%. It’s fucking software. The only cost is Engineering.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851212)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 10:04 PM
Author: adventurous at-the-ready station pervert

could just skip the whole thing and put the money right in the market

it's all fucking make work anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851293)



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Date: April 15th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: Flushed fragrant home

It’s not “AAA” if you aren’t setting money on fire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851405)



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Date: April 16th, 2025 12:21 AM
Author: spectacular disturbing useless brakes stag film

What do you mean "supposed to be?" Hardly anything these developers do is value added.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48851772)



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Date: April 16th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Flushed fragrant home

I mean in software in general. Because the only cost is paying Nerds. Especially when there’s. I expensive Cartridge involved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48852115)



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Date: April 16th, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: spectacular disturbing useless brakes stag film

Re-read OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5711292&forum_id=2).#48852798)