Date: July 16th, 2026 11:42 AM
Author: Basque man, US citizen
perspective and they both get angry at you for not seeing this ages old ethnic blood feud from a particular Slavic or Germano-Slavic volk perspective (and it'd just be disrespectful to do anything more than merely simulate such a thing, anyhow)
I side with Ukraine as the benefits for the US are far higher now that any hope of a lasting detente with US-Russia relations has been tanked over the last couple of decades and also I guess it's a more sympathetic sort of tale but the Ukrainians who get angry at Americans for not seeing it in the same terms that they do is also quite a stale bit of thought
In any case this bit of foreign policy is not a bit that either side of that conflict can ever expect Americans to see the way they do and expectations from Ukrainians or Russians should be set around that bar
The moral high ground is currently held by Ukraine. At the same time there should be a wider understanding of just how insane and morally/culturally corrosive the collapse of the Soviet Union was for Russians on the ground and the slav hate needs to be examined with compassion as these are a "peoples made sick" by the inculcation and injection of extremely foreign and ill-intentioned cultural and economic facets. Seriously what happened with Gorbachev and Yeltsin was a horrific tragedy for Russians and the Russian culture and social fabric and not because I'm a communist (i'm not) or a Slavophile (I can be) but simply as an appreciator of what a state in good working order and direction can do for its people. This entire episode (the failure of perestroika, the desperation and moral panic of the anti-SFSR counter-coup, the preceding slow decay and then all-at-once collapse of the Russian public sphere and the empowerment of truly sick, crass, and anti-national Russian oligarchs) is not taught at all in the US from a Russian perspective. You are more likely to hear a Balt or an Estonian with little but ethnic hatred for the poor slav bloviate on this topic in the US than you are a credible and qualified Russian moderate. These series of events color the entire process surrounding the Russian military operation. American planners do not understand the context of the conflict and so American planners tend to make the wrong decisions or put down the wrong sorts of objectives for it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883208&forum_id=2,#50003932)