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Date: May 25th, 2026 9:34 PM Author: German pumo
He only courted the daughters of the richest men in town. She was the third he had tried his luck with. He asked her out, she stood him up, he tracked her down, took her for a car ride, told her how successful he would be and asked her to marry him by the end of the ride:
Lyndon already knew, through Gene, who Lady Bird was; he quietly asked her to meet him for breakfast the next morning in the coffee shop of the Driskill Hotel. She says she didn’t plan to, but she was in Austin to consult with an architect about remodeling the Brick House, the architect’s office was next to the Driskill, and as she passed the coffee shop, she saw Lyndon sitting at a table at its window. As he realized she wasn’t planning to join him, he frantically waved at her until she did. Then he took her for a drive. On it, he first showered her with questions (“I never heard so many questions; he really wanted to find out all about me”), and then—this man whose “mind could follow another mind around and get there before it did”—with answers, answers, as she puts it, to “questions that hadn’t been asked.… He told me all sorts of things I thought were extraordinarily direct for a first conversation”—about “his ambitions,” how he was determined to become somebody, and was already well on his way as secretary to a Congressman, a Congressman who was, moreover, a Kleberg, about “his salary … how much insurance he had … his family. It was just as if he was ready to give me a picture of his life and what he might be capable of doing.” And then, on this, their first date, he asked her to marry him. “I thought it was some kind of joke,” she recalls.
Caro, Robert A.. The Path to Power: The Years of Lyndon Johnson I (pp. 474-475). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Date: May 25th, 2026 11:46 PM Author: German pumo
Must be nice to have natural charisma like this- this was being said about LBJ when he was just the 27-year old state leader of some insignificant New Deal agency:
He was more than a reader of men, he was a master of men. And these men, the first on whom he had an opportunity to fully exercise his mastery, not only served him, but loved and idolized him. “I knew that he would be moving into something with a bigger challenge,” Deason says. “I had a sense of destiny for him.” When young Chuck Henderson had still been engaged to Mary, then a secretary back in Ashtabula, Ohio, he wrote to her, she says, “I’m working for the greatest guy in the world. Someday he’s going to be President of the United States. And he’s only twenty-seven years old!” Mary found this hard to believe, but when she arrived in Austin to get married—Lyndon Johnson was best man—and to become a secretary in the NYA offices, she saw at once why Chuck believed it. “I find it hard to understand when I talk about it now,” she says. “But he had what they call now a charisma. He was dynamic, and he had this piercing look, and he knew exactly where he was going, and what he was going to do next, and he had you sold down the river on whatever he was telling you. And you had no doubts that he was going to do what he said—no doubts at all. You never thought of him being only twenty-seven years old. You thought of him like a big figure in history. You felt the power. If he’d pat you on the back, you’d feel so honored. People worked so hard for him because you absolutely adored him. You loved him.”
Caro, Robert A.. The Path to Power: The Years of Lyndon Johnson I (p. 567). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Date: May 28th, 2026 11:05 PM Author: German pumo
LBJ's fighting skills in college:
"Lyndon just had to lie about everything.” He had made a great point of describing himself as a tough man in a fistfight—something believable, despite his awkwardness, because of his size. During a poker game, however, he began arguing with another student, and wouldn’t stop shouting at him. The other boy jumped up and lunged at him. Johnson, without a single gesture of resistance, immediately fell back on a bed and, as his foe approached, began kicking his feet in the air with a frantic, windmilling motion. The other poker players all remember him lying there and kicking—“like a girl,” Horace Richards says—and they remember him shouting: “If you hit me, I’ll kick you! If you hit me, I’ll kick you!” The other men were astonished. Says Whiteside, one of those present: “He was a coward. You know, every kid in the State of Texas had fights then, but he wouldn’t fight. He was an absolute physical coward. And the thing about it was that he had made such a big thing about what a great fighter he was.”
Caro, Robert A.. The Path to Power: The Years of Lyndon Johnson I (p. 261). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Date: May 28th, 2026 11:10 PM Author: German pumo
LBJ's brown-nosing skills in college:
THE REACTION OF the targets of this barrage of compliments is documentation of the adage that where flattery is concerned, no excess is possible. Miss Brogdon, so inflexible about her curfew rules, relaxed them for Lyndon Johnson. The professor at whose feet Johnson sat most often was H. M. Greene, a history professor and debate coach; Johnson may have received a D in the debate course taught by another professor, but he made Greene’s debating team, much to the surprise of students who, like one member of the team, considered him “very forceful, but really not a good speaker at all.”
The key to Johnson’s college career—the key, in fact, to whether he would be able to earn enough money so he could have a college career—was Prexy Evans. The public flattery was nothing to the private flattery (witnessed only by Tom Nichols) that went on in the president’s office, and flattery—a striking humbleness, deference, obsequiousness—was not the only weapon employed; Nichols, a non-competitive man, liked Johnson (Nichols was “red of face, a real country boy whom Lyndon could easily get around,” another professor says), but he couldn’t resist remarking on the pains the student took not only to carry out Evans’ assignments diligently, but to dramatize his diligence.
Mylton Kennedy, who echoes Whiteside’s vivid description of Johnson sitting at his instructors’ knees and drinking in avidly all they had to say, pauses and finally says: “Words won’t come to describe how Lyndon acted toward the faculty—how kowtowing he was, how suck-assing he was, how brown-nosing he was.” And if students disliked Lyndon Johnson because of his attitude toward the faculty, they disliked him even more because of his attitude toward them. If he was obsequious to those above him, he was overbearing to those who were not.
And he wouldn’t let anyone else talk. The young man so eager to sit and listen to the faculty seemed determined that everyone else was going to sit and listen to him. Fellow students who ate at Mrs. Gates’ boardinghouse remember two things about Lyndon Johnson most vividly: how he grabbed for food and gulped it down and grabbed for more, trying always to get more than his share—“He had those long arms, and he would reach out with that fork and get the last biscuit on the plate, even: if it was on the other end of the table, and if there was one pork chop that was bigger than the others, no one was going to get it but Lyndon Johnson,” says one of those students—and how he also grabbed more than his share of the conversation.
Caro, Robert A.. The Path to Power: The Years of Lyndon Johnson I (p. 257). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Date: May 28th, 2026 11:23 PM Author: German pumo
Amazing contrast between LBJ's college days, when he was hated by the entire student body, and several years later where everyone was fawning over his charisma and saying he would be president someday. Guess he just perfected his bullshit act so that it fooled people:
Each edition of the San Marcos yearbook, the Pedagog, contained a section, “The Cat’s Claw,” which mocked students’ foibles. In the 1928 Pedagog, twelve students were selected for such treatment. The treatment of eleven is rather gentle, but the twelfth was Lyndon Johnson. Instead of a picture of Johnson, the editors used a picture of a jackass. The caption beside it read: “As he looks to us on the campus every day.” Johnson, the caption went on, is “From far away, and we sincerely trust he is going back.” And, the caption said, he is a member of the “Sophistry Club. Master of the gentle art of spoofing the general public.”
The Pedagog was not the only publication in which the word “master” was applied to Lyndon Johnson. In the College Star’s humor column appears the following definition: “Bull: Greek philosophy in which Lyndon Johnson has an M.B. degree.” “ ‘Master of Bullshit’—that’s what M.B. means,” says one of Lyndon Johnson’s classmates, Henry Kyle. “He was known as the biggest liar on the campus. In private, when there were no girls around, we called him ‘Bullshit’ Johnson.” He was given the public nickname “Bull.” “When you saw him, that’s what you called him,” says Horace Richards. “ ‘Hiya, Bull.’ ‘Howya doin’, Bull?’ Bull Johnson was his name, as far as we were concerned.” “That was what we called him to his face,” Edward Puls, another classmate, says. “That was what he was generally called. Because of this constant braggadocio. Because he was so full of bullshit, manure, that people just didn’t believe him. Because he was a man who just could not tell the truth.”
Caro, Robert A.. The Path to Power: The Years of Lyndon Johnson I (p. 267). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Date: May 29th, 2026 1:45 AM Author: German pumo
Dude is impossible to pigeonhole - this is from his days teaching dirt-poor Mexicans in his first job after college:
Demanding though he was, moreover, he was demanding in a way that made his students like him. “He put us to work,” says Manuel Sanchez. “But he was the kind of teacher you wanted to work for. You felt an obligation to him and to yourself to do your work.” The children he spanked “still liked him.” He displayed toward these children feelings he had never displayed before. “He just moved right in and took over.… We were all crazy about him.” And he drove himself as hard as he drove the students and other teachers. “He didn’t give himself what we call spare time,” Elizabeth Johnson recalls. For a young man, she says, he was a remarkable disciplinarian—the discipline she is talking about, she makes clear, is self-discipline. He became friendly with a calm, quiet Mexican who had been a farm laborer but had become janitor at the school, Thomas Coronado. He told Coronado that he, too, should learn English, and with his own money bought Coronado a book to learn it from. He always arrived at school before anyone else did, and left later, and therefore had time to tutor Coronado. “After I had learned the letters, I would spell a word in English. Johnson would then pronounce it and I would repeat.”
Caro, Robert A.. The Path to Power: The Years of Lyndon Johnson I (p. 281). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
He's like a completely different guy from one chapter to the next, except for being driven at whatever he did.
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Date: May 29th, 2026 1:52 AM Author: German pumo
Once, moreover, while Johnson was out of the room, Danny Garcia went to the front of the classroom and began imitating the teacher—a performance easy to make funny because of Johnson’s awkward walk. Suddenly the class stopped laughing, and when Garcia turned around, there was the teacher in the doorway. Grabbing the boy by the hand, Johnson took him into an empty room. “I thought I was going to get a lecture,” Garcia recalls, but instead, “He turned me over his knee and whacked me a dozen times,” and as Garcia felt the force of the blows, he realized that Johnson was angrier than he had ever seen him. And when he re-entered the now hushed classroom, Johnson said something that the students considered quite striking. As Amanda Garcia recalls it, he asked them how they could make fun of him: “He told us we were looking at the future President of the United States.”
Caro, Robert A.. The Path to Power: The Years of Lyndon Johnson I (pp. 283-284). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Date: May 29th, 2026 1:58 AM Author: German pumo
LBJ should have developed his own form of martial arts:
Soon, moreover, Kennedy and Johnson became involved in a series of increasingly angry shouting matches that erupted in a fistfight—or in what would have been a fistfight had Johnson participated. Instead, when Kennedy swung at him, he fell back on a bed as he had during the poker-game incident two years before and began kicking his feet in the air. And as Kennedy came on, Johnson shouted: “I quit! I quit!” Vernon Whiteside, present during the encounter, was soon again imitating Johnson’s panicky tone all over campus, and students were laughing at him again.
Caro, Robert A.. The Path to Power: The Years of Lyndon Johnson I (p. 289). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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