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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:51 PM Author: Adventurous newt Me: 842k Wife: 267K
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Date: December 19th, 2025 3:05 PM Author: amber cracking whorehouse goyim Over $400k if you add wife.
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Date: December 19th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: iridescent stirring prole You are doing better than paycheck to paycheck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49523480) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2025 2:25 PM Author: infuriating plaza windowlicker I understand that he's an attorney (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49534294) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 12:49 PM Author: House-broken floppy gas station tattoo You joke, but I'm unironically proud of my meagre token of prefthige. Intangible honours are more valuable than silver or gold. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49527624) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 6:07 PM Author: iridescent stirring prole I felt the same when I won a $100 poetry prize. In college. In 1993. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49531954) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 6:10 PM Author: House-broken floppy gas station tattoo Lashing out because the board writ large is mocking you for bragging about a discount walmart watch? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49531959) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 6:35 PM Author: iridescent stirring prole ? Largely? It’s five unmarried childless losers pissed I’m buying a Rolex. One would hope there are more posters than that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49531998) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:01 PM Author: stubborn macaca I was making fun of honaria. Whatever happened to him? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49532872) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:34 PM Author: soggy exciting really tough guy university lol I make more money than lex tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49528370) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:47 PM Author: iridescent stirring prole Monkey driving a golf cart makes more money than that guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49528421) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 3:46 PM Author: Poppy Swashbuckling Stag Film I feel safe in this subthread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49531586) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 3:46 PM Author: Poppy Swashbuckling Stag Film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49531589) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 3:46 PM Author: Poppy Swashbuckling Stag Film lex how’s your dating life? jw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49531592) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 5:09 PM Author: House-broken floppy gas station tattoo I only respond to such queries in old fashioned SUMMON: threads. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49531824) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:10 PM Author: Mauve aromatic hospital why are u dorks including ur wives' earnings (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520253) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:14 PM Author: Mustard marvelous senate Same reason why they included what their wives harvested in their annual rice harvest numbers for the past 3000 years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520283) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:27 PM Author: Mauve aromatic hospital i don't even know whether my wife has a job (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520363) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:19 AM Author: Big-titted Native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522246) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:24 AM Author: Supple private investor genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522259) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 3:47 PM Author: Poppy Swashbuckling Stag Film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49531594) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:10 PM Author: motley chocolate point hominid not enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520256) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 7:07 AM Author: Fragrant Brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49524556) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:15 PM Author: irate affirmative action striped hyena little under $6M (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520288) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:18 PM Author: amber cracking whorehouse goyim MFCR. State occupation, thank. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520304) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:30 PM Author: Adventurous newt 271K TOPS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520377) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:37 PM Author: Dashing tanning salon clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520585) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:17 PM Author: thriller center factory reset button (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520702) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 1:55 PM Author: irate affirmative action striped hyena sorry ur mad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522735) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 3:00 PM Author: Wild mexican (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49525741) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:22 PM Author: trip walnut laser beams preventive strike Six figures, champ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520329) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: laughsome home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520502) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:39 PM Author: motley chocolate point hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520594) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 9:29 AM Author: Ebony fear-inspiring hissy fit state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49524786) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:27 PM Author: hairless lemon gaming laptop public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49528564) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:29 PM Author: blue mother trump supporter -$184K (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520375) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Aqua idiotic gaping tank I fail to see how this is relevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520501) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:08 PM Author: Zombie-like useless brakes mad cow disease Pre tax or post tax? Including expected tax credits, debits, write ups, write downs, etc.? Including retirement account contributions, distributions, roll overs? Including K1 returns of capital? Including present value of future earnings? Including appreciation on value of assets? Net of amortization and depreciation on those assets? Very unclear op (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520506) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:18 AM Author: Lascivious Parlour holy fuck how jewish are you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522240) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:24 PM Author: soul-stirring range new version low-200s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520548) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 6:27 PM Author: splenetic vermilion giraffe box office 0 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520555) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 8:07 PM Author: Lilac beady-eyed stage like 2 million (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49520858) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:38 AM Author: Cream very tactful theater $360k in tech (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522161) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:50 AM Author: irradiated theatre Less than I want but way more than I deserve (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522182) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:00 AM Author: Adulterous vibrant halford I value my wife’s admiration over tax advantages. Therefore, I sold off my winners but held my losers so that our tax bill in April shows bigly long-term capital gains for 2025 when in reality I barely beat the index. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522192) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:03 AM Author: irradiated theatre Shrew'd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522198) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:03 AM Author: boyish nursing home lol @ this flame. Women only care about what you can buy them and the lifestyle you can provide (ideally one where they don't think about money at all). Any woman autistic enough to care about big number on long term gains is going to be autistic enough to care about overall performance, not just a big number on a line. The woman you're describing does not exist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522202) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 1:36 PM Author: Adulterous vibrant halford She sees the tax return but not the brokerage statement. She’ll see the big reported income but not the unrealized paper losses. She is indeed high T and autistic so she does care about the number. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522694) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:08 PM Author: Effete karate (guy playing the long game) at the same time, this is the sort of thinking that leads guys to do big ponzi schemes and then when they get found out they freak out and killself - don't do that |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:59 PM Author: Adulterous vibrant halford thank you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522969) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:43 PM Author: At-the-ready Boistinker I mean, don't rule anything out, there's something to be said for doing high roller ponzi until found out and then whatever happens happens (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49524077) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:03 AM Author: outnumbered corner generalized bond Who wants to pay off my house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522200) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:11 AM Author: curious bearded roommate negative money (lived off debt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522220) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:19 AM Author: hilarious galvanic kitchen associate ~250, not bad but half as much as last year. :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522245) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:22 AM Author: Lascivious Parlour what happened (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522255) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:37 AM Author: hilarious galvanic kitchen associate i made a bunch of money off of JMIA last year. ironically if i had just held i'd be up even more today, but there's fucking way i would've survived that draw down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522320) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:21 AM Author: Big-titted Native if there's one thing I've learned as a solo it's that annual earnings are flame.
my income fluctuated probably 400% from 2024 to 2025 but nothing really changed. money comes in at random without any reference to what "year" it is. |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:28 AM Author: glittery vengeful business firm turdskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522284) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:29 AM Author: Pearl library Around 1.7 which is what I made last year. I'm starting to think I'll never cross into the 2 million range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522287) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:40 AM Author: Light 180 Garrison Cuck $600k as solo lolyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522333) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 2:55 PM Author: Autistic depressive place of business Closer to a tenth of that for me. Nasty health problem decimated my year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49525725) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 11:44 AM Author: Razzmatazz hell ~$900k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522345) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:09 PM Author: Mind-boggling fat ankles Paying tax on about $600K, but zero earned income. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522793) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:17 PM Author: Fragrant Brunch Wow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522813) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 3:35 PM Author: motley chocolate point hominid Let me know what I can do to earn about $20k from you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49523151) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 3:41 PM Author: Mind-boggling fat ankles How many blowjobs can I get for that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49523174) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 4:20 PM Author: motley chocolate point hominid well my regular price is $20 per nut but since you're buying in bulk, i can go to $15. So, 1,333.33 blowjobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49523284) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 4:23 PM Author: Mind-boggling fat ankles That 1/3 sounds disappointing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49523287) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:47 PM Author: Ungodly field filthpig lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49523843) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 4:06 PM Author: motley chocolate point hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49531645) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:18 PM Author: Effete karate you guys are a bunch of studs, i'm in the 20th decile or so itt and honestly am pretty happy about it given my in-house lifestyle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522815) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:58 PM Author: aphrodisiac unholy locale personal credit line the only threads on XO more full of shit than income threads are max pullups in a single set threads. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49522960) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 3:27 PM Author: Effete karate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49523114) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 4:23 PM Author: Exhilarant doctorate gunner I can do 12 full-extension, 13 with a bit of english on the last one, at 235 bodyweight not flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49523288) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 5:16 PM Author: Rebellious Abode Scourge Upon The Earth Lol rfk did 20pullups on video. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49523407) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:24 PM Author: bateful orange dog poop athletic conference if i used the same form and ROM as him i could crank off like 30+
maybe once a month i will see someone at the gym doing legit full ROM dead-hang pull-ups. the rest are kipping crossfit turds just bouncing tension off their brachials and could probably not squeeze out eight clean reps. |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 2:11 PM Author: Rebellious Abode Scourge Upon The Earth Try actually doing pull-ups. You will not get much more by swinging unless you also don't go more than 1/2 up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49525630) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:47 PM Author: aphrodisiac unholy locale personal credit line LOL boor, his form was trash. controlled full ROM pullups from a true dead hang (like required by most military testing) are substantially more difficult than what RFK and the road rules guy were doing. MTV was marginally better for form but still bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49529038) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 6:06 PM Author: boyish nursing home You sound poor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49523499) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 9:29 AM Author: Ebony fear-inspiring hissy fit state but self-selection... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49524790) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:34 PM Author: hateful area I dunno, like 10-15x the American average and also not nearly enough. Being working class rich fucking sucks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49523808) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 8:56 PM Author: Jet-lagged Violent Famous Landscape Painting Pit XO to young poasters, " Do NOT go to law school!"
*rubs hands togther*
"But I made 750k last year!!!!!" |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:08 PM Author: hateful area Survivor bias. The people from my class who didn’t survive ITE probably have a very different perspective than I do.
And how many times when your friends kid asks you about going to law school do they sit down and tell you about their 158 LSAT / 3.4 GPA and grand dreams of going to Drexel and getting in at Dechert or Morgan Lewis. Maybe Drinker if they’ve got some sense. |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 8:23 AM Author: irradiated theatre Soo cr. Maybe half of the dudes I know about are still lawyers. Way less than half of the women. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49524660) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 11:14 AM Author: hateful area It would be fascinating to see some actual ROI data on law school classes over time. I got a good return on mine, but yea all of the people who drop out of/evolve away from the profession would almost certainly have been better off not going $300k into debt (above and beyond undergrad) in their early 20s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49525097) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 2:45 PM Author: Charcoal razzle immigrant back in the day standard advice was only go to ls if you're going to a t14 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49525701) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 3:00 PM Author: Poppy Swashbuckling Stag Film Only once ITE hit. Before that, Gen Xers sleepwalked off a cliff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49525737) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 5:59 PM Author: hateful area TITCR. The Bill Henderson “Bi-modal distribution of starting lawyer salaries” scholarship was explosive at the time, and for good reason. It only came out in like 2008 and the blog it was on has been lost to time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49526155) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 9:22 AM Author: irate affirmative action striped hyena this is correct.
I started with 26 people in my summer class.
Of my summer class only two are partners at law firms - me and another guy I hired back to work for me as a W2 partner.
Two other guys have their own law firms but makes like 300k-500kyr
three others are in-house
All others are somewhere other than law. |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 10:49 AM Author: Jet-lagged Violent Famous Landscape Painting Pit amazing how XO gets the top 1% of lawyers to poast here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49525050) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 11:18 AM Author: Fragrant Brunch The personality that really likes it here actually thrives in law practice too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49525106) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 11:27 AM Author: glittery vengeful business firm turdskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49525129) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 2:45 PM Author: Charcoal razzle immigrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49525700) |
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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:10 PM Author: Turquoise odious degenerate $160k. The same I made as a first year. Good thing there’s been no inflation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49523890) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 2:58 PM Author: Cream very tactful theater I paid just under that in taxes this year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49525732) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 8:29 AM Author: Maize Arrogant Fortuitous Meteor Faggot Firefighter somewhere around $220k pre-bonus. bonus will likely be shit this year, however. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49524680) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 8:30 AM Author: Maize Arrogant Fortuitous Meteor Faggot Firefighter this number includes all income, not just wagecucking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49524683) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 8:32 AM Author: Maize Arrogant Fortuitous Meteor Faggot Firefighter actually it might be closer to $240k. idfk i don't keep close track of how much i make altogether; i focus on how much i save. won't know the exact number until i do taxes probably. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49524686) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 3:11 PM Author: Bossy dilemma A little over a mil. “Worked” ~10 hours a week. Pay taxes on much less.
Depositing 400k in fees first week of January too.
Solo PI. |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 4:22 PM Author: cerise theater stage How do you get your taxable income lower? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49525966) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 4:37 PM Author: Bossy dilemma Bought a car (100% depreciation) Pay myself rent -- I own office building Office building depreciation/property taxes Did a lot of work to the office building. New AC/Furniture. I fully renovated it a couple years ago for like 200k. All adds value to property and gets written off. like 75k in meals and travel Gas Health Insurance Mortgage interest home/office I prepay whatever expenses I can for the next year -- car insurance, ad spend, web marketing, etc. ~150k in staff salaries. Paralegal always pays for herself by bringing in cases so I don't really count that. I'm sending a demand on a DUI wreck she brought in in January for $1 mil.
Creative but nothing fraud.
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Date: December 20th, 2025 6:02 PM Author: glittery vengeful business firm turdskin Creative but nothing fraud tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49526159) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 11:28 AM Author: iridescent stirring prole Tell more about paralegal. How does she bring in cases? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49527453) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 3:34 PM Author: Bossy dilemma Just by being likeable and talking to people and knowing what she's talking about. Lots of family members. She's probably brought in $1 mil in fees since she started with me ~8 years ago. I bought her a car last year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49528026) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 3:46 PM Author: iridescent stirring prole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49528065) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 3:45 PM Author: Rebellious Abode Scourge Upon The Earth About 1mil , I wagecucked a lot and this is my ceiling. Anyone who has 5mil networth can make over 10%/yr in qqq and pay much lesser than I. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49525872) |
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Date: December 20th, 2025 4:30 PM Author: avocado territorial haunted graveyard 425k in a litigation boutique as a non-equity “partner” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49525997) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:03 AM Author: rose sanctuary cuckold still waiting for bonus which will be 30% of my comp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49527285) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:29 AM Author: stubborn macaca it's likely going to be around $580k this year. i started the year as an equity partner where i got a monthly draw, then moved in april to a firm where i'm a nonequity partner. i forget exactly how much my equity payout for 2024 was, but i think it'll come in around 580.
next year, with my origination bonus for 2025, comp should be around 610-650. not sure what this place is doing with my base for next year, but it better go up because i had $1.8m in originations in 9 months. |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:31 AM Author: iridescent stirring prole That’s good. Do you have to leave a bunch of money in? Is it pretax. Do you get your accountant to withhold tax? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49527331) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:37 AM Author: stubborn macaca at the prior firm, i bought in like $20k worth of shares. they returned that to me after i left, but it had increased to like $45k. i figured they were gonna just keep my money. this was all w-2 income with withholdings done. that firm is set up so that everyone is a "shareholder" and employee of the firm it isn't a partnership. when i was in biglaw, when i made partner i got paid on a k-1 basis, which fucking blew.
i'm eligible for equity at this firm at the end of 2026, and i will make it no question. the money i have in the pipeline would be enough originations for 2026 to qualify because the threshold is pretty low here. even if my book implodes in january, i'll have enough.
equity formula, i understand, looks something like: 40% of your "working attorney" number plus 20% of originations, plus something for being a "good firm citizen." i'm filling a need this firm desperately needs - despite having a bunch of labor attorneys, they are entertainment labor lawyers, which means they don't do ANY NLRB litigation or collective bargaining. all they do is interpret 600-page CBAs that were negotiated decades ago and are renegotiated by some employer association. so i guess they will do something for me to reflect that.
if my book in 2027 looks like it does right now, i'd make $1,080,000 or so my first year as an equity partner. this firm is an actual partnership, unfortunately, so i will have to start my own corporation or some kind of bullshit and pay way more in taxes.
we have a dood in my office who sues foreign govts for terrorist acts and brings in like 20 million a year, and that apparently winds up being a windfall to all the equity partners.
all firms should be set up as companies, this partnership stuff sucks ass. |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 4:27 PM Author: iridescent stirring prole We just work hard all year then deduct costs from fees earned and whatever is left we split between each other based on ownership proportion. So if we had 4 million in profit and if I have a 25 percent interest then I get a million, less whatever I’ve been taking out to live on during the year. Say $200k for that.
It’s complicated by the need to leave some of that money in operations for the following year because we don’t take loans for that. |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:36 AM Author: glittery vengeful business firm turdskin Looks like I peaked in 2023 at $500k and I've been earning less each year and next year I am really gonna be down big, meanwhile you keep going up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49527341) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:39 AM Author: stubborn macaca it's surprising to me bc i used to not give a fuck about the business side of law. i've always been regarded as really good at what i do, but kind of an oddball and oblivious to biz dev, etc.
when i was in biglaw, an of counsel i hung around with always told me that if i sobered up and quit doing drugs/drinking 24/7, i could have a big book. turns out he was right ($2m is big for me, anyway, and i never thought i'd have anything like this.)
you're doing great brother, anything over 300k is really good. |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:42 AM Author: glittery vengeful business firm turdskin are you hiring? can you mentor me? i really enjoyed ur saltwater tank threading and miss it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49527349) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:46 AM Author: stubborn macaca if i could, i would man. are you open to learning traditional labor law?
i'll be saltthreading again soon. we moved out of our house in august to do a renovation. i have to run over there every few days to feed the fish and maintain the tank. it's 120.
we should be moving back in within a couple weeks and i will resume tank threading and maybe throw in some home renovation threading.
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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:49 AM Author: glittery vengeful business firm turdskin i dont think i wanna learn that. do you think i can bottom for u instead? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49527369) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:50 AM Author: stubborn macaca yes but i am not sure what i can pay u. can i finish in ur ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49527372) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 11:22 AM Author: glittery vengeful business firm turdskin are you still pozzed? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49527430) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 11:23 AM Author: stubborn macaca undetectable brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49527434) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 11:26 AM Author: glittery vengeful business firm turdskin i guess you can finish in my ass. $50 if u can host (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49527443) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 11:36 AM Author: stubborn macaca wow this is hot, let's take this off boart (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49527490) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:30 AM Author: concupiscible school cafeteria roast beef $595k (which is like $390k after taxes) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49527325) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:53 PM Author: Vivacious school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49528452) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 10:35 AM Author: heady station indirect expression Should be $1.036m with rents and assuming the lab business collects as projected in December. The first over $1m year ever, bros. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49527340) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 12:02 PM Author: Vigorous codepig 600-800k in tech depending on stock price, haven’t really checked
30hr/week |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:09 PM Author: House-broken floppy gas station tattoo 180 last note (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49532880) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 1:00 PM Author: cerise theater stage About 1.3 mil. Shitlaw boss, real estate investing and other entrepreneurial activities.
It's a great blessing, and things have blown up fast over the last few years after years of toil. Last year was about 500k, 300k before that, lower for many years before that. This is a result of sustained business building, not one big settlement that won't be replicated.
However, this is a very risky seat to be sitting in. I'm a target in a wide variety of ways that I didn't anticipate, and everything could vanish at any moment. I am trying to take chips off the table and put them into safer assets where I can. But that's not easy to do.
Also, there is a hard, fairly low ceiling on my happiness because of my marriage to an angry, bitter woman who gets mad if she sees me enjoying myself. I don't want to divorce her for family reasons, but matters may come to a head in 2026. |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 4:45 PM Author: stubborn macaca that is 180, very impressive.
very unlikely everything will implode immediately. just plow like $2m into index funds over time and max out retirement accounts. that's what i'm doing. wife and i currently have close to $3m in retirement accounts and if i get to $2m in taxable, i won't worry at all about my book blowing to pieces.
but honestly, you will probably continue doing well so don't worry.
on the marriage, you should try to save it if you think it's salvageable, but if it really is far gone then you should split up. don't stay together for money. but don't be so fast to peace out. maybe if she knows you are putting your foot down, she will knock off her bullshit. maybe not, but you should give it a shot. |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:24 PM Author: iridescent stirring prole I think he has posted about her before. He’s doing a mitzvah staying w her for the kids sake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49528342) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:42 PM Author: stubborn macaca i can't advocate for doing that, but that's just me. nobody should ever do what i did and blow up a good marriage just because they're doing mounds of cocaine and strange pussy, but i also don't believe that you should stay if your relationship is in the shitty and not recoverable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49528390) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 5:30 PM Author: Cerebral twinkling uncleanness just do discreet affairs bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49528356) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 11:21 PM Author: cerise theater stage Lol at all the poasters counting unrealized investment gains to come up with their headline numbers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49538515) |
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Date: December 26th, 2025 10:13 AM Author: Jade Pocket Flask Step-uncle's House I wouldn’t include it in my headline number but I do think it’s good to note. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49540547) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 3:04 PM Author: Passionate parlor CSLG free thread. Odd case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49531487) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 6:03 PM Author: hairless lemon gaming laptop public bath Great q. Most in-housemos have no idea since most won't know bonuses for a bit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49531946) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2025 8:06 AM Author: Charcoal razzle immigrant count any bonus you received in calendar 2025 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49533223) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 6:28 PM Author: Rebellious Abode Scourge Upon The Earth I just started new job. Finished last shift of nights at 5am and today at 9am started new job. Tomorrow will go for a swim before work.. but so far it doesn't seem like it's that easy. But as long as I get to take a 30minute run for lunch plus actually eat another 30 mins it might be a step up from working nights. Bit hourly rate is also lower. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49531986) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:05 PM Author: Jade Pocket Flask Step-uncle's House About $310k in W2/1099, $50k in rental profit, and I think $470k or so in gains (mostly unrealized) and dividends.
Haven’t done the taxes yet though, will report back later. |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:08 PM Author: Fragrant Brunch Up $415,290. W2 wages are about 65% of that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49532879) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2025 8:05 AM Author: Charcoal razzle immigrant whats the other 35% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49533222) |
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Date: December 25th, 2025 9:02 PM Author: Exhilarant doctorate gunner cap gains (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49539832) |
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Date: December 25th, 2025 10:58 PM Author: Charcoal razzle immigrant are we counting cap gains in what we made this year? id need to revise my number (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49540017) |
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Date: December 25th, 2025 11:20 PM Author: Fragrant Brunch I'm up like $440k now on the year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811768&forum_id=2,#49540047) |
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