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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Impertinent greedy karate temple
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
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Impertinent greedy karate temple
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Wine lodge coldplay fan
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
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The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Wine lodge coldplay fan
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
red bbw
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Wine lodge coldplay fan
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Impertinent greedy karate temple
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
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Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
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state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
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Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
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red bbw
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how do they get home?
flatulent police squad rehab
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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flatulent police squad rehab
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
stimulating avocado parlour
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correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
red bbw
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Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Dashing laser beams mother
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ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
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How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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Impertinent greedy karate temple
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Wine lodge coldplay fan
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Impertinent greedy karate temple



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: red bbw

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Impertinent greedy karate temple

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Wine lodge coldplay fan

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: red bbw

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Wine lodge coldplay fan

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: red bbw

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Wine lodge coldplay fan

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Impertinent greedy karate temple

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: red bbw

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Wine lodge coldplay fan

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: red bbw

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Wine lodge coldplay fan

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Impertinent greedy karate temple



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: red bbw



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: flatulent police squad rehab

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: red bbw

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: flatulent police squad rehab



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: stimulating avocado parlour

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: red bbw

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Dashing laser beams mother

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: red bbw

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Boyish theater stage pervert

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: red bbw



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Impertinent greedy karate temple



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: vibrant metal tattoo

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Pearly know-it-all stead mood

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Impertinent greedy karate temple



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Impertinent greedy karate temple



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Wine lodge coldplay fan

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: purple soul-stirring range french chef

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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