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its insane to me that people have mixed kids

the mindset alone is insane, but to actually go through with...
mildly autistic bateful brethren house
  10/29/25
1000s of years of evolution......down the drain
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  10/29/25
your ancestry is mixed too. you just lost track of the ingr...
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umber toaster
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'races' were pretty distinct by about 40k years ago. Post ic...
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Yes “ghost” species
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The ghost DNA is present in all humans. The introgression ha...
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Did you just edit this now? If it is "present in all...
The Penis
  07/13/26
Because that was the population they used to infer the inteo...
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No. They fitted teh ghost introgression model separately to ...
The Penis
  07/13/26
Glad youre admitting my original assertion that all humans h...
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The CI is showing that the temporal resolution is weak. That...
The Penis
  07/13/26
Despite your mental contortions, the bottom line is that: ...
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What? I agree with the statement that all populations have g...
The Penis
  07/13/26
Wtf are you smoking? The paper is only talking about one gho...
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A news report from the same publisher that published the art...
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Before you edited your 1st premise just said a generic "...
The Penis
  07/13/26
Sigh. Your OP claims Africans have introgression from a ghos...
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Edit
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doobsian ebony spot boltzmann
  10/29/25
also insane that nonwhites have kids, they should realize th...
Lavender school
  10/29/25
indians literally birthed civilization, saar
doobsian ebony spot boltzmann
  10/29/25
That birdshit is perpetually maf, likely did too much meth
Impressive base therapy
  10/29/25
its crazy how few people are willing to be honest about this...
mildly autistic bateful brethren house
  02/27/26
if it werent for mixed kids this board would be dead af
Boyish nighttime church building sweet tailpipe
  10/29/25
agreed and i think it's underdiscussed how much of it is ...
Flesh State Yarmulke
  10/29/25
Counterpoint: Asian pussy
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yeah ok i take it all back race mixing is actually based and...
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mildly autistic bateful brethren house
  10/29/25
"these pairings almost always happen when one of the pa...
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the median asian male has a disproportionately low SMV compa...
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yeah i thought what i was saying was pretty obvious but i gu...
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i use to sort of agree with this but recently ive realized t...
doobsian ebony spot boltzmann
  10/29/25
the taliban understand this
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  06/28/26
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how so. people have been doing it forever, since time immem...
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  10/29/25
case in point, chilmata and EPAH
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  10/29/25
chilmata and EPAH had a baby? which one's the father?
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mildly autistic bateful brethren house
  10/29/25
Crazy
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what communion hath light with darkness
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dead startled institution
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Date: October 29th, 2025 3:32 PM
Author: mildly autistic bateful brethren house

the mindset alone is insane, but to actually go through with it / achieve it is truly insane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385360)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: crimson den genital piercing

1000s of years of evolution......down the drain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385363)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 3:35 PM
Author: concupiscible round eye step-uncle's house

your ancestry is mixed too. you just lost track of the ingredients

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385364)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 3:43 PM
Author: umber toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385395)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 6:40 PM
Author: chest-beating aromatic stock car

'races' were pretty distinct by about 40k years ago. Post ice age the population was very small once tribes started to contact each other and mix. That's about 12k years ago. Even in Egypt there is almost zero sub Sahara dna. There is an entire ghost species like neanderthals hidden in African DNA that is not present in groups that allegedly left Africa in the great migration waves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385895)



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Date: February 10th, 2026 7:54 PM
Author: Abusive national bbw

Yes “ghost” species

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49661995)



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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:22 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,::,......;,..,:.:.,:.::,.


The ghost DNA is present in all humans. The introgression happened before the out of Africa event. Refer to Figure 1B here:

https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciadv.aax5097?rfr_dat=cr_pub++0pubmed&url_ver=Z39.88-2003%F0%20%94%AFid=ori%3Arid%3Acrossref.org

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49997469)



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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: The Penis

Did you just edit this now?

If it is "present in all humans" then why did the authors of the paper specifically make it about west african pops? Why didn't the paper say up to 20% of ALL HUMANS?

No it is suggesting at least PART of the deep ancestry signal predates the African/non-African pop split, so that SOME variants contributing to it could be broadly shared among living humans. Read more carefully bro. This doesn't establish that every human pop carries the same ghost segments in the same amounts and from the same admixing events.

The primary inference was performed on West Africans (yoruba, esan, gambian, mende) genomes and that's where they got the 2-19% ancestry estimates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49997476)



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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:30 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,::,......;,..,:.:.,:.::,.


Because that was the population they used to infer the inteogression, idiot. But that doesnt mean they are the only pop that has it. Look at the graphs. They clearly show all humans have the ghost DNA. The orange "ghost" arrow is upstream of the European-African split.

https://www.science.org/cms/10.1126/sciadv.aax5097/asset/fd8d413a-f99d-4b2b-9e4d-9ba4a047a89c/assets/graphic/aax5097-f1.jpeg



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49997484)



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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:35 PM
Author: The Penis

No. They fitted teh ghost introgression model separately to yoruba, esan, gambian and mende and got the reported 2-19%. Their genome wide ancestry maps were constructed only for yoruba and Mende. The approx. 6.6-7% of the sequence classified as putatively archaic and the high frequency candidate loci are SPECIFICALLY west african results.

The non-African signal is confounded by known Neanderthal introgression. A U-shaped spectrum in those populations isn't a clean measurement of this particular ghost lineage. And the paper only concludes that “at least part” was shared before the split.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49997501)



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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:37 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,::,......;,..,:.:.,:.::,.


Glad youre admitting my original assertion that all humans havr DNA from the ghost species now. Yes, it says "at least part," but possibly all...saying "at least part" is the conservative way to deal with the hilariously low power of their statistical tests. The 95% CI on the introgression event date is 124,000 to ZERO YEARS before present, lol. How many introgression events do you think realistically there were?

The only thing they can say definitively in the paper given their underpowered tests is that there is DNA from the ghost species in all humans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49997510)



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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:40 PM
Author: The Penis

The CI is showing that the temporal resolution is weak. That doesn't imply that "possibly all" of the signal must have entered before the african non-african split. It just means there are many histories that are compatible observationally with the chosen modeling. How do you get that failing to exclude pre-split history is evidence the entire signal was pre-split?

I think what you are doing is basically taking uncertainty in modeling and using that in support for your preferred scenario where "possibly all humans carry the ghost ancestry".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49997521)



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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:44 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,::,......;,..,:.:.,:.::,.


Despite your mental contortions, the bottom line is that:

(1) this paper proves all humans have ghost species ancestry

(2) there is no proof in this paper that Africans have ghost species ancestry from an introgression event after the Out of Africa split.

It doesnt rule out that there was a second introgression event post-split, but the assertion that there was a post-split introgression from the same ghost species stands on flimsy ground and is a much weaker claim than the one you originally made:

"There is an entire ghost species like neanderthals hidden in African DNA that is not present in groups that allegedly left Africa in the great migration waves."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49997532)



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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:48 PM
Author: The Penis

What? I agree with the statement that all populations have ghost ancestry. When were we ever talking about generic ghost ancestry? We were talking about this specific paper's inferred ghost ancestry. The paper's position is explicitly asymmetric. It's joint CEU-YRI analysis supports the conclusion that at least part of the signal predates the split, while the strongest quantitative estimates are concerning sampled WEST AFRICAN POPULATIONS. It doesn't quantify what fraction is universally shared, nor demonstrate that the entire inferred contribution in West Africans is identical to what is present elsewhere.

Also link to where tf I ever said the following:

"and is a much weaker claim than the one you originally made:

"There is an entire ghost species like neanderthals hidden in African DNA that is not present in groups that allegedly left Africa in the great migration waves.""

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49997544)



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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:55 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,::,......;,..,:.:.,:.::,.


Wtf are you smoking? The paper is only talking about one ghost species the entire fucking time. And says at least part of this ghost population's introgression definitely happened pre-split.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49997567)



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Date: July 13th, 2026 8:03 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,::,......;,..,:.:.,:.::,.


A news report from the same publisher that published the article (Science) spells it out clearly:

"DNA from Han Chinese in Beijing as well as Utah residents with northern and western European ancestry also showed signs of ancestry from the ancient ghost population, Durvasula and Sankararaman found. But DNA from those two groups was not studied as closely as that from the Yoruba and Mende people."

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/some-west-africans-may-have-dna-genes-ancient-ghost-hominid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49997586)



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Date: July 13th, 2026 8:11 PM
Author: The Penis

Before you edited your 1st premise just said a generic "Despite your mental contortions, the bottom line is that: (1) all humans have ghost species ancestry". And I was pointing out that that's outside the scope of the paper and this discussion.

The paper says at least part of the signal predates the split. I agree. But “at least part” is not “all,” and the paper does not quantify the universally shared fraction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49997603)



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Date: July 13th, 2026 8:29 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,::,......;,..,:.:.,:.::,.


Sigh. Your OP claims Africans have introgression from a ghost species thag other humans do not have introgression from. We have established that this is wrong: The paper proves all humans have ancestry from this ghost species. Moreover, the paper does not even demonstrate that Africans have more ghost species ancestry than other humans, which is your weaker fallback claim.

Your original statement:

"There is an entire ghost species like neanderthals hidden in African DNA that is not present in groups that allegedly left Africa in the great migration waves."

This is wrong. You have no evidence of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49997660)



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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:55 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,::,......;,..,:.:.,:.::,.


Edit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49997565)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: doobsian ebony spot boltzmann

i agree with muhhamad ali, there's a 180 vid where hes like wtf wld i want to have kids who look diff from me

its unnatural, but shitlib kikes have indoctrinated everyone to think this shit

even right wing birdshit "men" dream of hapa seriel killer children

its all so absurd, i wldnt even feel comfortable walkin arnd with some AZNgirl prostitute and subhuman malay looking kid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385366)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: Lavender school

also insane that nonwhites have kids, they should realize they are shit gene subhumans and refuse to continue their mudlines.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385369)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: doobsian ebony spot boltzmann

indians literally birthed civilization, saar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385582)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: Impressive base therapy

That birdshit is perpetually maf, likely did too much meth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385604)



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Date: February 27th, 2026 5:55 PM
Author: mildly autistic bateful brethren house

its crazy how few people are willing to be honest about this

https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5471332&mc=33&forum_id=2#47254354

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49700812)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Boyish nighttime church building sweet tailpipe

if it werent for mixed kids this board would be dead af

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385588)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: Flesh State Yarmulke

agreed

and i think it's underdiscussed how much of it is due to the liberalization of "the sexual marketplace." what i mean is that most people who end up in mixed marriages end up in that situation because it was "the best they could do" in the liberalized free sexual marketplace

asian women with white men, white men with hispanic women, occasionally black men with white women - these pairings almost always happen when one of the parties is disproportionately low value within their race, and the other is disproportionately high value within their race

it's really gross when you realize what's happening and once you realize it you see it in basically every mixed race couple you run across. you can see how important anti-miscegenation laws and sentiment were for human civilization to function

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385599)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: Heady seedy feces

Counterpoint: Asian pussy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385603)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: Flesh State Yarmulke

yeah ok i take it all back race mixing is actually based and redpilled and asian pussy saved my life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385610)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:05 PM
Author: mildly autistic bateful brethren house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385606)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: nubile out-of-control nibblets

"these pairings almost always happen when one of the parties is disproportionately low value within their race"

lol I don't think there's any shortage of asian men trying to get with asian women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385609)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:14 PM
Author: galvanic flushed mood

the median asian male has a disproportionately low SMV compared to the median asian female, so it's happening on a mass scale with azns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385630)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: Flesh State Yarmulke

yeah i thought what i was saying was pretty obvious but i guess i could have explained it better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385634)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: Hideous sable nowag



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:49 PM
Author: doobsian ebony spot boltzmann

i use to sort of agree with this but recently ive realized that women are basically just self destructive cunts if they are "liberated" too much. AZNgirls deserve furking hate but they really are just behaving as all women do when they aren't controlled by their men. Women lose respect for their men when they arent put in their place. When they are given "freedom" they turn into total cunts and will destroy their own ppl because if their own men are so weak they wont control them then they shld go find some other race of men to do so.

AZNgirls in the West were just pioneers in this, the ones in Asia arent nearly as bad cause many are still controlled. White women are basically the same just in diff ways, they get furked by niggas and stuff and want to basically genocide their own kind, birth rates are a sign of this too. Its basically the same self destructive behavior as AZNgirls in West.

Basically Jews want all women to be like this, once a culture stops controlling its women its game over

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385738)



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Date: June 28th, 2026 1:36 PM
Author: Trip affirmative action mental disorder

the taliban understand this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49967172)



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Date: July 13th, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,..,.,.,::,......;,..,:.:.,:.::,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49997481)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Navy glittery keepsake machete parlor

how so. people have been doing it forever, since time immemorial

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385612)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:19 PM
Author: Charcoal University

case in point, chilmata and EPAH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385651)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:30 PM
Author: umber toaster

chilmata and EPAH had a baby? which one's the father?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385683)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: mildly autistic bateful brethren house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49385936)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 7:51 PM
Author: mildly autistic bateful brethren house

Crazy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49386063)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 8:55 PM
Author: dark razzmatazz principal's office

what communion hath light with darkness

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49386220)



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Date: February 10th, 2026 7:49 PM
Author: dead startled institution



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Date: October 29th, 2025 8:59 PM
Author: Exhilarant cruel-hearted business firm boiling water

OP has a little room prepared in hell for his “retirement”

And he knows it and seeks consolation here in this mirror hall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49386234)



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Date: February 8th, 2026 6:52 PM
Author: mildly autistic bateful brethren house



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Date: February 10th, 2026 7:32 PM
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Date: February 10th, 2026 7:38 PM
Author: Charismatic shrine tank

the cruelty of it is unspeakable

https://x.com/Rothmus/status/2021029416965738733

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791312&forum_id=2,#49661953)



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Date: June 28th, 2026 2:08 PM
Author: beady-eyed jade wrinkle main people

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Author: dead startled institution



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Date: February 27th, 2026 4:06 PM
Author: mildly autistic bateful brethren house



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Date: June 28th, 2026 1:33 PM
Author: mildly autistic bateful brethren house



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Date: June 28th, 2026 2:02 PM
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