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Book rec for boys ?

any books you read or wish you had read in high school? look...
razzle-dazzle disgusting stock car
  12/18/25
I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderso...
fragrant hateful theater stage voyeur
  12/18/25
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712? Reasonable price, ...
racy hyperactive locale
  12/18/25
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puce location
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"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys...
mind-boggling site jap
  12/19/25
this is now forever in my search history I want you dead,...
mind-boggling site jap
  12/19/25
mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel
carnelian native trump supporter
  12/18/25
A few offhand: -On the Shortness of Life - Seneca -Sta...
Histrionic pearly hall half-breed
  12/18/25
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&a...
mind-boggling site jap
  12/19/25
or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of...
wine hot box office hominid
  12/19/25
The Illustrated Man Odyssey The International Jew 1984 M...
drunken ticket booth karate
  12/18/25
Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters
pungent tank
  12/18/25
i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer readin...
razzle-dazzle disgusting stock car
  12/18/25
Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Ce...
pungent tank
  12/18/25
they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your...
razzle-dazzle disgusting stock car
  12/18/25
180
pungent tank
  12/18/25
The eyes and the impossible sourdough heart of samurai...
amethyst electric hospital knife
  12/18/25
rocket boys is 180
Red Jew
  12/18/25
Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo
amethyst electric hospital knife
  12/18/25
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Red Jew
  12/19/25
weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party...
wine hot box office hominid
  12/22/25
CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" thos...
Scarlet trailer park nibblets
  12/18/25
he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that&rsq...
razzle-dazzle disgusting stock car
  12/18/25
The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)
vermilion curious resort degenerate
  12/18/25
ty for the recs, this is helpful i just asked him what bo...
razzle-dazzle disgusting stock car
  12/18/25
Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has rea...
Bearded spot faggot firefighter
  12/18/25
seconding count of monte cristo three musketeers is also ...
180 avocado abode pozpig
  12/18/25
JackTales 🤡😳
cowardly dilemma trust fund
  12/18/25
those are for reading out loud , clown
amethyst electric hospital knife
  12/18/25
The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton https://www.amazon...
sexy fiercely-loyal volcanic crater rehab
  12/18/25
Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz) We Were Soldiers Once… And...
Drab mood
  12/18/25
are you seriously recommending a book on manhood written by ...
aromatic lilac black woman macaca
  12/18/25
I’m not even sure which author you’re talking ab...
Drab mood
  12/18/25
lol
aromatic lilac black woman macaca
  12/18/25
he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers &qu...
bateful lake lodge
  12/21/25
Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000
Red Jew
  12/18/25
No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a bet...
Drab mood
  12/18/25
James Bond novels Conan (only read the flemming and howard...
Fighting factory reset button
  12/18/25
The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.
Histrionic pearly hall half-breed
  12/18/25
Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 ...
Fighting factory reset button
  12/18/25
Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new boo...
Histrionic pearly hall half-breed
  12/18/25
1. Goldfinger 2. Moonraker 3. Casino Royale 4. From Russ...
Fighting factory reset button
  12/19/25
tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I th...
Histrionic pearly hall half-breed
  12/21/25
cr
Red Jew
  12/18/25
Anabasis
obsidian theater elastic band
  12/18/25
...
aromatic lilac black woman macaca
  12/18/25
Flowers for Algernon
mahogany elite space pervert
  12/18/25
The Lessons of History - Will & Ariel Durant Man's Sear...
aromatic lilac black woman macaca
  12/18/25
a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it...
soul-stirring insanely creepy school cafeteria
  12/18/25
Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in ...
honey-headed institution multi-billionaire
  12/18/25
Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?) Zen and the Art of Motorc...
contagious smoky sound barrier office
  12/18/25
> Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance lol
aromatic lilac black woman macaca
  12/18/25
read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class i...
razzle-dazzle disgusting stock car
  12/18/25
zorba the greek
Red Jew
  12/18/25
...
Drab mood
  12/18/25
Several good recs already upthread. Some others: The Thin...
Scarlet trailer park nibblets
  12/18/25
Cr. list I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit ov...
Drab mood
  12/18/25
The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorit...
Hyperventilating haunted graveyard
  12/18/25
...
Scarlet trailer park nibblets
  12/18/25
agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise cau...
bateful lake lodge
  12/22/25
Watership Down A Day No Pigs Would Die 2nd Where the R...
beady-eyed grizzly rigpig juggernaut
  12/18/25
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Brilliant Motley Quadroon
  12/18/25
Starship Troopers Enders Game Johnny Tremain Childhoods E...
Sticky corner legal warrant
  12/18/25
A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES
mind-boggling site jap
  12/19/25
Neon Bible better rec for younger kid
obsidian theater elastic band
  12/19/25
abridged edgar allen poe short stories
Primrose kink-friendly sanctuary mother
  12/19/25
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  12/26/25


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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle disgusting stock car

any books you read or wish you had read in high school? looking for something that would be motivating / tools for life genre

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519424)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: fragrant hateful theater stage voyeur

I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderson (Broken Sword, Three Hearts and Three Lions) Fritz Lieber (Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser) etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519444)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: racy hyperactive locale

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712?

Reasonable price, free shipping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519452)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: puce location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519458)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:35 AM
Author: mind-boggling site jap

"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys and crayons, a bubble bath, and lots of love."

-- School Library Journal

"Will undoubtedly be scooped up by families seeking queer representation in board books."

-- Kirkus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49521596)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:42 AM
Author: mind-boggling site jap

this is now forever in my search history

I want you dead, Malk Poo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49521719)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: carnelian native trump supporter

mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519459)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: Histrionic pearly hall half-breed

A few offhand:

-On the Shortness of Life - Seneca

-Starship Troopers (the book is much better and more serious than the movie)

-Bonfire of the Vanities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519460)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:10 AM
Author: mind-boggling site jap

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&forum_id=2#35633765

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49521571)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:32 AM
Author: wine hot box office hominid

or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of his vanities

toughens him up a bit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49522050)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: drunken ticket booth karate

The Illustrated Man

Odyssey

The International Jew

1984

Meditations

The Myth of Sisyphus

Hamlet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519465)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: pungent tank

Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519476)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle disgusting stock car

i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer reading assignments



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519493)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:34 PM
Author: pungent tank

Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Celestine Prophecy, Lord of the Flies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519513)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle disgusting stock car

they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your other recs, ty!

he just finished peak, so hatchet is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519523)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: pungent tank

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519559)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:01 PM
Author: amethyst electric hospital knife

The eyes and the impossible

sourdough

heart of samurai

artemis

rocket boys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519953)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: Red Jew

rocket boys is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49520282)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: amethyst electric hospital knife

Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49521280)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:34 AM
Author: Red Jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49521595)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: wine hot box office hominid

weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party scene at my rural West Virginia high school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49530601)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: Scarlet trailer park nibblets

CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" those by HS, especially later in HS?

My 7 year old just read--and really enjoyed--Hatchet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519755)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle disgusting stock car

he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that’s more his reading level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519767)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: vermilion curious resort degenerate

The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519483)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle disgusting stock car

ty for the recs, this is helpful

i just asked him what book he’s reading (we’re on a flight) and its war and peace

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519489)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: Bearded spot faggot firefighter

Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has read tons of other Russian lit and has a solid grounding in religion and philosophy.

Count of Monte Cristo is a goat novel that is also accessible and really exciting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519679)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: 180 avocado abode pozpig

seconding count of monte cristo

three musketeers is also great and vastly superior to any adaptation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519686)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: cowardly dilemma trust fund

JackTales 🤡😳

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519490)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: amethyst electric hospital knife

those are for reading out loud , clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519956)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: sexy fiercely-loyal volcanic crater rehab

The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton

https://www.amazon.com/Boy-Pink-Hair-Perez-Hilton/dp/0451234200

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519492)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:32 PM
Author: Drab mood

Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz)

We Were Soldiers Once… And Young (Moore & Galloway)

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage (Lansing)

The Way of Men (Donovan)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519502)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: aromatic lilac black woman macaca

are you seriously recommending a book on manhood written by a homo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519701)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: Drab mood

I’m not even sure which author you’re talking about, though I’m 99.99% sure that it’s not Moore or Galloway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519724)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:41 PM
Author: aromatic lilac black woman macaca

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519873)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: bateful lake lodge

he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers "androphile," a term he uses to describe romance and sex between masculine men

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Donovan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49528627)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: Red Jew

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519898)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: Drab mood

No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a better idea of what it means to be a man and to experience the thrill, the triumph, of surviving impossible odds. Leadership, loyalty, discipline. And then they get home and are like, fuck it, sign me up for WWI’s trenches

My middle son needed a bit of coaching on perseverance, so we read this together and then did a HARD AS FUCK mountain bike camping trip in western NC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49520739)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: Fighting factory reset button

James Bond novels

Conan (only read the flemming and howard originals though)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519505)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:39 PM
Author: Histrionic pearly hall half-breed

The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519535)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:51 PM
Author: Fighting factory reset button

Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 or so) in a summer. all were 180. I tried reading the non-flemming but its not the same. They don't write novels like that anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519587)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Histrionic pearly hall half-breed

Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new books to read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519744)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Fighting factory reset button

1. Goldfinger

2. Moonraker

3. Casino Royale

4. From Russia With Love

5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

the order changes based on mood but these five are in a tier above.

the rest are all solid. for example, Diamonds are Forever is my least favorite and that is still leagues better than any modern espionage novel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49522101)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:44 PM
Author: Histrionic pearly hall half-breed

tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49528612)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Red Jew

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519729)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:42 PM
Author: obsidian theater elastic band

Anabasis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519542)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: aromatic lilac black woman macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519572)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: mahogany elite space pervert

Flowers for Algernon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519548)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: aromatic lilac black woman macaca

The Lessons of History - Will & Ariel Durant

Man's Search for Meaning - Viktor Frankl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519568)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: soul-stirring insanely creepy school cafeteria

a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it. great series for boys who like knights, politics, and violence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519602)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: honey-headed institution multi-billionaire

Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in the series

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519689)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: contagious smoky sound barrier office

Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?)

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

Dune

anything recent by Lawrence Millman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519705)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: aromatic lilac black woman macaca

> Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519706)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle disgusting stock car

read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class in hs. book was so so but class was 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519770)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: Red Jew

zorba the greek



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519710)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Drab mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519736)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: Scarlet trailer park nibblets

Several good recs already upthread. Some others:

The Things They Carried

Mark Twain--starting with Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn

1984

The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (and throw in The Hobbit)

Infinite Jest

Moby Dick

Blood Meridian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49519751)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:30 PM
Author: Drab mood

Cr. list

I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit overexposed to the hopelessly feminized librarian space for a time and was looked down upon as kind of trite. But it’s 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49520745)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Hyperventilating haunted graveyard

The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorite. You shouldn't look down on librarian recs. This is all they do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49520815)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: Scarlet trailer park nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49521254)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: bateful lake lodge

agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise caution with the second and third sentences just given that the values may not be stoic masculine warrior

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49530736)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: beady-eyed grizzly rigpig juggernaut

Watership Down

A Day No Pigs Would Die

2nd Where the Red Fern Grows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49520246)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:33 PM
Author: Brilliant Motley Quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49520756)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:40 PM
Author: Sticky corner legal warrant

Starship Troopers

Enders Game

Johnny Tremain

Childhoods End

Rama



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49520778)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:16 AM
Author: mind-boggling site jap

A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2,#49521578)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:11 AM
Author: obsidian theater elastic band

Neon Bible better rec for younger kid

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