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Is a second home ever worth it?
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Date: December 7th, 2025 11:08 AM Author: violet coffee pot Assume you spend 2 weekends each month and most of the summer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491142) |
Date: December 7th, 2025 11:13 AM Author: Magical location Yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491150) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 11:25 AM Author: aquamarine deranged spot genital piercing LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491177) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 11:28 AM Author: adventurous set but where would i get a million dollars (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491181) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 11:15 AM Author: Tripping Fantasy-prone Resort Dysfunction Its consumption. But better than most consumption (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491152) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 11:16 AM Author: Indecent territorial lay only if you're really locked into where you live + where you weekend. otherwise, just do airbnb's (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491154) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 11:16 AM Author: poppy aromatic chapel gunner If you have kids seems a bit weird to have them spend summers away from friends unless you're an ultra-richmo where your circle just moves around accordingly.
If you don't who cares the money isn't going to do anything for you when you're dead so might as well |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 1:31 PM Author: narrow-minded stock car Or you have a community with second home. Obviously not entirely applicable to OP, but knew a buddy whose grandfather had bought a lake place that his dad then inherited. Everyone else around the lake had bought at the same time, so his dad grew up with the other kids who now bring their kids there and it's like a second community where everyone knows each other.
If you're an extrovertmo you could probably recreate that. |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 2:46 PM Author: Gay Field You left out the part where said-Grandfather did a lot of molesting while alone at the lake house. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491675) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 3:10 PM Author: narrow-minded stock car that's why i kept asking for an invite up until i found out the grandfather died (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491726) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 11:44 AM Author: excitant theater If you’re a nokidsmo or emptynestermo AND an outdoorsmo, then it absolutely makes sense to have two homes and migrate seasonally. Very few other circumstances where it makes sense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491234) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 12:16 PM Author: violet coffee pot nokidsmo. i like being outdoors but not an outdoorsmo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491316) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 2:39 PM Author: excitant theater For this purpose you don't need to be some Arcteryx adventuremo or Basspro sportsmanmo. If you like gardening or jogging or cycling on a path or sitting on your deck and watching boats pass by or whatever, it's worth being somewhere nice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491658) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 12:53 PM Author: ocher blood rage basically this
It's a dogshit thing to do to kids IMO |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 12:34 PM Author: motley walnut space Depends on the type of home but most homes need a shitton of maintenance and it seems not worth the bother. We can barely manage to take care of one house and there's a long list of projects we need to get to and we don't have the time to deal with it.
If you're retired or generally have a lot of extra time on your hands then maybe it's worth it. |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 2:42 PM Author: Racy Athletic Conference Mother being middle class sucks, huh? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491664) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 12:46 PM Author: Bearded opaque forum party of the first part If you’re in need of tax deductions and have the infrastructure for proper management and upkeep, I have known of people who profitably ran portfolios of secondary homes. Location and amenities are everything. You have to keep them rented out. And most importantly, don’t use debt and use other sources of income to live on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491368) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 12:48 PM Author: elite range of course? its basically free?
by the time you sell and deduct all you spent on having the home, you broke even or came out ahead, so you had a free 2nd home during that time. |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 2:49 PM Author: Gay Field lol, you don't know wtf you're talking about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491681) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 12:51 PM Author: ocher blood rage As someone who grew up in a family with a vacation home - I would be extremely wary.
I would rather have grown up in a family without one. |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 12:52 PM Author: elite range (SP's kid) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491392) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 1:14 PM Author: ocher blood rage I suppose you think you're making a fun joke here but you're closer than you think.
The tick checks went on longer than they should have. |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 1:34 PM Author: elite range now I just feel bad. fuck.
anyways, wanna shower? |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 2:43 PM Author: Racy Athletic Conference Mother wait, what? did you have your own “Uncle Dave?” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491666) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 8:18 PM Author: ocher blood rage By "longer" I meant there were ages where it happened where it shouldn't have. The sessions weren't longer than necessary for the stated purpose.
I now think there wasn't any intent of sexual exploitation. But does this person's intent matter? IMO, what matters is how the other person feels. And at the time I felt highly exploited. |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 10:59 PM Author: Abnormal Metal Alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492837) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 11:18 PM Author: Grizzly selfie What the actual fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492871) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: Racy Athletic Conference Mother 🙄 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492931) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:20 AM Author: ocher blood rage ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492980) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:38 AM Author: Racy Athletic Conference Mother I can’t stroke it to that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492994) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 1:55 PM Author: Insanely creepy blue new version please let us know why. tyia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491538) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 2:41 PM Author: Abnormal Metal Alpha yeah why's that? i have somewhat fond memories of a (small, cheap, shared, occasional summer use) vacation home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491663) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 8:01 PM Author: ocher blood rage For me it was far more than occasional use. We went to the cottage to the complete exclusion of doing anything else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492413) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 11:00 PM Author: Abnormal Metal Alpha ty, and you didn't like it because you preferred being at home? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492840) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:22 AM Author: ocher blood rage I would have preferred something approaching a reasonable high school existence. Sports, friends, dances, that sort of thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492984) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:44 AM Author: Abnormal Metal Alpha oh that sucks - and yeah you must've been going to the second home a ton if it interfered with all that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49493163) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 6:18 PM Author: ocher blood rage I forgot to mention the #1 thing that was missing in my life: church.
I can't recall ever going to church on a Sunday. We went on Christmas, maybe Easter, and *very* rarely attended weeknight services. I was sent to public schools. Wasn't given any religious instruction at home. It was a massive shock for me to find out as a teenager that we were actually a deeply religious family. |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: Abnormal Metal Alpha huh. i had sort of an opposite reaction: lots of religious instruction, but the teachers were generally very dumb. so it turned me off as a young autist. and it was only later when i found things like cs lewis that i came back to it to some degree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49495509) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 12:54 PM Author: ultramarine fragrant station so like a cottage or something? Yes, its worth it. I know lots of people who have 2nd, and they retire in the 2nd home/cottage usually, eventually, inevitably. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491400) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 1:23 PM Author: ocher blood rage Retiring in the second home is something of a pipe dream.
When you get older you need more medical care & 2nd homes are often in areas with fairly poor healthcare options |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 2:02 PM Author: violet coffee pot i would definitely not want to retire in the second home. would go somewhere else. but would spend holidays and summer months and 50% of weekends at second home. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491553) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 1:43 PM Author: haunting famous landscape painting den Shit ton of upkeep on the high end homes sitting vacant. Even more when you go the vacation rental route. Overall, if you can afford the monthly expenses and really like the location it's not a bad deal. I'm around mostly high-end second/third homes and the ones purchased for 3-4 million are all going for more than double in just the 10 plus years. Hard to lose if you use it often too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491520) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 2:38 PM Author: nudist mint mood We have a 3 season cabin on a pretty but pretty remote lake about 4 hours from the house. It's great and we use it a lot. Kids can bring a friend, sometimes friends or family use it. But it was cheap, 200k about 6 years ago. Every year or two my wife brings up buying a place at the beach or some expensive area and I just say no without discussion. Upkeep and rental bullshit all seem miserable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491653) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 2:51 PM Author: Gay Field Why not just get an Air BnB?
You don't have to pay any of the upkeep or other maintenance like you would for a home that you own. |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 1:33 PM Author: bat shit crazy faggot firefighter deer antler Because an AirBNB would be too fucking expensive if you are going to stay there the entire summer. But AirBNB is probably TCR if you plan to use it for only 1-2 weekends per month. You avoid the headache of being a landlord, and it's probably cheaper, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49494004) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 6:06 AM Author: dashing church You can rent Airbnbs by the month for pretty reasonable prices if you are savvy about your search and a bit flexible on location. Like a whole house for $2-4k per month (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49495902) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 2:53 PM Author: anal vigorous pocket flask hominid if youre actually rich sure. if youre a wagie then no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491690) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 2:55 PM Author: comical area Buying a beach house and renting it for 80-90% of the summer is one of the best investments a UMC shlub can make. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491697) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 8:21 PM Author: alcoholic knife boltzmann Summer = 9 weeks when kids aren't in school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492480) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 1:31 PM Author: bat shit crazy faggot firefighter deer antler I have looked at the mortgage payments on beach homes versus the revenue from AirBNBing them, and my first thought was, "Holy shit! Why isn't everyone doing this?" Then I researched it more carefully and discovered that there are some significant risks. If you get pwned by a hurricane and can't rent for a full season, the mortgage company still expects to be paid. Ditto if global warming causes your home to fall into the ocean. Also, you can't use your home at all during the summer (or you can use it for a few occasional weekdays at most). But if you are willing to take these risks, the potential profits are enormous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49493993) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 3:13 PM Author: Useless Brethren if it is close enough that you'll actually use it that much sure, but then that brings up the question of whether you want to spend all of your time off in a place that is pretty much already where you live just with a prettier view (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491736) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 3:17 PM Author: Gay Field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49491747) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 11:55 PM Author: Grizzly selfie The sweet spot IMO is a 4/5/6 hour drive (or 1 hour flight)—long enough so there’s real separation between your primary home life and the vacation spot but close enough that weekends (or at least long weekends) are doable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492940) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:18 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle reading party center It depends on the scenery; you just want a different environment. Living/working in Sacramento and owning a home on lake tahoe would be fine, despite that it's less than 2 hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492976) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:20 AM Author: Grizzly selfie I think you also have to factor in getting away from the people you see M-F. When it’s too close (e.g., your under 2h spot) you end up surrounded by all your workplace / hometown fags. That may be appealing for some people but not me, it makes it harder to feel psychologically separated from your primary home environment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492981) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 6:27 PM Author: Useless Brethren I think anything you have to fly to kills it, flying is not a good experience and doing it twice in a weekend with kids is a hell of a lot of pain in the ass and money when you could just be flying to wherever and getting a hotel for the same effort to me the deciding factor is if you live close enough to something that is interesting enough to justify going all of the time but is too remote to actually live by, lake houses, ski cabins etc make sense if you live nearby but can't possibly go fulltime on some random mountain |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 7:13 PM Author: Grizzly selfie Ideally if you’re flying you’re using your own plane to cut down on the travel time and making it less burdensome. An hour flight hoping into the plane from the tarmac is much different from having to fly regional Delta twice in a weekend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49495101) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 9:41 AM Author: anal vigorous pocket flask hominid lol tyvmft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49496136) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 1:06 PM Author: ultramarine fragrant station helicopter better for mountain cabin access and uses less petrol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49496703) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 10:13 PM Author: bateful locus idiot six hours is really pushing it for regular weekend use (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49495523) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 11:26 PM Author: ocher blood rage Yeah. Even 4 is a stretch for regular weekend use. Assuming no PTO use, that's 8 hours in a car just for a little over a day at the 2nd place.
IMO you want 3 hours or less. I feel kind bad for Chicagoans, there's not a ton of credited options all that close. I've never been to Lake Geneva but it looks really mid, just like a suburb on a lake. |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 9:39 AM Author: anal vigorous pocket flask hominid six is insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49496133) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 1:06 PM Author: ultramarine fragrant station its simply not feasible. its 2-2.5 hours or nothing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49496704) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 5:19 PM Author: Grizzly selfie This is stupid. 4-5 hours is easily doable. You cut out of the office a little early on Friday, you’re there for dinner, spend all day Saturday and Sunday, hit the road home around 5 pm and you’re back at a reasonable 9-10. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49505245) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 5:20 PM Author: Grizzly selfie 6 works for long weekends but not regular weekends. 4-5 is fine for regular weekends. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49505257) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 11:52 PM Author: Grizzly selfie holy shit at all the pearl clutching analysis in this thread
Of course having a second house is great wtf is wrong with you people |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:01 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle reading party center Growing up my family had a beach home and a ski home, neither of which were within driving distance of our actual home. I did not like it because it locked us into a disproportionate number of vacations at those two places. We never lived at either or stayed for more than 2 weeks at a time.
I will say that my parents are naturally gifted home repairers, additioners, and decorators who sold those properties at wild profits and have since done the same with several others. For some of these I'm talking from under $1.5 to well over $2 in the course of less than 5 years (this wasn't some one-off miracle; they consistently got great gains). They would also rent them (short-term vacation) out through local property management companies when we weren't there; my parents would handle some repairs and replacement of stolen/lost/broken kitsch, but none of the day-to-day.
If you don't *like* that shit then obviously don't do it, but this is not, say, buying a boat. It is not a bad financial proposition at all. |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:09 AM Author: Racy Athletic Conference Mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492961) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 9:43 AM Author: anal vigorous pocket flask hominid your boomer parents bought houses for 1.5 and sold for over 2mil? holy shit! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49496138) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:11 AM Author: charcoal angry turdskin hospital We have had a second house for 22 years. It's a winter escape. Swapping snow for palm trees is nice, and since we have friends and family in both places it's pretty homey feeling. Could I live without it? Sure, but I don't plan to sell it or rent it out unless one of us becomes debilitated so we can't use it. It's not that hard to maintain. We have a house watcher and a gardener. Things rarely break, and when they do we just get them fixed. The unrealized appreciation has far exceeded costs, but a stock market investment would have performed somewhat better. I wish it wasn't so far away, though. 2000+ miles is a PITA sometimes. It's an all day trip by air and several days of driving otherwise. We both prefer driving, esp. since we can visit friends along the way.
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Date: December 8th, 2025 9:44 AM Author: Bearded opaque forum party of the first part Sounds like a 180 set up. You've really got a wonderful life! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49493249) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 9:50 AM Author: charcoal angry turdskin hospital I have been blessed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49493258) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Abnormal Metal Alpha sounds cr. you seem pretty handy though, you haven't had to do much maintenance yourself? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49495527) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 12:40 AM Author: charcoal angry turdskin hospital The older I get the more I hire out. Second house is pretty low maintenance. Had it painted and reroofed last year, so there's not much else to do. Could use some interior updating, but it's not urgent. I fix minor stuff that breaks, but don't intend to crawl around laying flooring. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49495762) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 9:24 AM Author: Abnormal Metal Alpha ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49496100) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:17 AM Author: Floppy ape public bath Its worth it to have a second home in Italy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492974) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:23 AM Author: Grizzly selfie Maybe counterintuitively I’d argue having a second home in some far flung other country is LESS credited. Better to just rent in those situations. The second house needs to be someplace you can fairly easily access for when shit goes wrong. I suppose a condo in a major foreign city would be fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492986) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 10:21 AM Author: dashing church European countries are rapidly making it prohibitive to have a second home. Like crushing vacancy taxes, severe limits on renting it out short-term, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49496216) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 5:21 PM Author: Grizzly selfie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49505265) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:17 AM Author: bat shit crazy faggot firefighter deer antler I'm thinking of doing this because I live in a place where summers are miserable but there are some nearby mountains with a mild summer climate and tons of outdoor opportunities. I think I would get enough utility from being able to hike and mountain bike all summer to justify any maintenance expenses (especially if I try to keep it rented when I am not using it). I'll have to see if the numbers add up, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49492975) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 12:51 AM Author: scarlet bipolar tanning salon But where will I get a first home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49495776) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 5:17 AM Author: Racy Athletic Conference Mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49495877) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 1:09 PM Author: ultramarine fragrant station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49496711) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 9:50 AM Author: chest-beating heaven dopamine i had a second forever and it honestly was just of a pain in the ass. youre always traveling to it in peak traffic (Friday night to Sunday night). youre constnatly buying groceries and stuff like milk that you have to throw out. you have to maintain it because it still gets dust and yard needs to be mowed. so if you dont want to sopend your whole weekend vacuuming you have to pay someone to do it. and yhour paying tax for services you dont even use.
if i were much richer sure or if it was a lake cabin with a boat sure, but it mostly sucks just get a hotel or stay home |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 10:18 AM Author: violet coffee pot this would be a lake cabin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49504114) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 10:48 AM Author: Abnormal Metal Alpha huh, wouldn't have thought of a few of those ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49504153) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 1:10 PM Author: Fighting school people who are hurt I have a lock picking kit and have access to dozens of unmanned forest fire lookout towers all winter long for free (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49496713) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 10:28 AM Author: exhilarant travel guidebook tank I like the idea of a vacation home in the mountains but it seems like you'd need to pay someone to routinely check on it, do maintenance while you're away, clean it, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49504125) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:16 PM Author: charcoal angry turdskin hospital It's not in the mountains and not isolated, but we are gone from our winter house for 8 or 9 months/year. I have a neighbor who checks on it periodically and a gardener who comes a couple of times/month, plus a bug service to keep the scorpions out. Otherwise there's not really anything to do. I have security cameras and it's in a safe neighborhood with numerous permanent residents. If you're in a area with a mix of permanent and part time residents it's easy to find someone to keep an eye on it for a small fee. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49504394) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2025 8:41 AM Author: violet coffee pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5807480&forum_id=2,#49533272) |