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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: Odious pit Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: Citrine federal stage just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: Citrine federal stage (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: Citrine federal stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48985020) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Twinkling principal's office Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: talented shimmering national trust fund Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: Twinkling principal's office (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: talented shimmering national trust fund They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Twinkling principal's office read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Learning disabled spruce international law enforcement agency Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49065184) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: racy chrome toilet seat what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48970037) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: domesticated university gaping I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: Learning disabled spruce international law enforcement agency teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49065206) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Hateful Psychic Station i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: avocado mental disorder gas station Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: cyan ladyboy really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: lavender sandwich It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: brass shivering public bath it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: lavender sandwich Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: cyan ladyboy actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Bronze arrogant immigrant 13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails
you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids
https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/hours_workweek.html |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Bronze arrogant immigrant "Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#49838410) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2026 9:35 PM Author: Jared Baumeister The feudal sentiment par excellence is the sentiment of the value and dignity of the individual man. The feudal man lived as a free man; he was master in his own house; he sought his end in himself; he was (and this is a scholastic expression) propter seipsum existens: all feudal obligations were founded upon respect for personality and the given word. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2,#50088178) |