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Forbes writer canned for telling frats not to rape drunk girls

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How do they get at the parents if the frat member is 18+?
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Date: September 25th, 2014 7:19 AM
Author: mustard sex offender bawdyhouse

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/forbes-columnist-sacked-piece-drunk-female-guests-grave-threat-frats-writer-responds-article-1.1951124

This guy wrote that frats should not invite in drunk girls who have pregamed, and that brothers should not allow other brothers to go in rooms alone with drunk girls. His advice mostly focuses on potential liability to fraternities, but his advice also protects those same girls from rape and sexual assault.

The original article got taken down and he was shitcanned within minutes for telling frats to be careful with drunk girls. The most sensible advice I can think of.

Shitlib carnival claims another one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26393359)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 7:21 AM
Author: Crimson Concupiscible Garrison

it is NOT okay not to let a drunk as fuck girl into your frat house.. it is her RIGHT to be gang raped by a bunch of CHADS.. how DARE you!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26393360)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 3:01 PM
Author: Startled rehab rigor



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Date: March 7th, 2016 2:36 PM
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Date: September 25th, 2014 7:24 AM
Author: Narrow-minded incel

wow, this is one straight-shooting shitboomer. i like him.

"That being said I stand by every word I wrote," Frezza said.

"Most people have no idea what is going on on college campuses these days due to the ill-advised raising of the drinking age from 18 to 21, forcing so much of it to go underground,"

"In our age of sexual equality, why drunk female students are almost never characterized as irresponsible jerks is a question I leave to the feminists."

"But it is precisely those irresponsible women that the brothers must be trained to identify and protect against, because all it takes is one to bring an entire fraternity system down."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26393361)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 7:24 AM
Author: silver doobsian son of senegal mad cow disease

drunk white girls in America are like cows in India. we just have to let them pass through our lives without harm, and with total reverence, no matter the cost

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26393363)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 7:26 AM
Author: Crimson Concupiscible Garrison

holy shit, this is a 180 analogy on so many levels

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26393367)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 7:35 AM
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Date: September 25th, 2014 8:27 AM
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Date: September 25th, 2014 11:14 AM
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Date: September 25th, 2014 11:17 AM
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Date: September 25th, 2014 3:01 PM
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Date: October 30th, 2014 10:02 PM
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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:02 PM
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Date: June 6th, 2021 3:02 PM
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Date: December 3rd, 2021 1:38 PM
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Date: September 25th, 2014 7:36 AM
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Date: September 25th, 2014 8:27 AM
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Date: September 25th, 2014 8:33 AM
Author: Amber half-breed

amazing

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Date: September 25th, 2014 8:34 AM
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Date: September 25th, 2014 9:03 AM
Author: Sooty Milk Newt



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Date: September 25th, 2014 9:10 AM
Author: lime boiling water black woman

This would be a great line in a movie.

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Date: September 25th, 2014 9:13 AM
Author: Naked codepig

Lol

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Date: September 25th, 2014 9:28 AM
Author: Bistre patrolman clown

My god, the scholarship...

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Date: September 25th, 2014 9:37 AM
Author: Tantric dun trust fund



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Date: September 25th, 2014 9:37 AM
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Date: September 25th, 2014 11:18 AM
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Date: September 25th, 2014 11:20 AM
Author: yellow hairy legs

if I did stand up comedy I would steal this line

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Date: September 25th, 2014 11:33 AM
Author: Bearded Hunting Ground Tank

Can't wait to see what sitcom writer trolling this bort steals this

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Date: September 25th, 2014 7:47 PM
Author: Gay laughsome kitty locus



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Date: September 25th, 2014 7:49 PM
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Date: September 25th, 2014 12:29 PM
Author: aphrodisiac embarrassed to the bone native



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Date: September 25th, 2014 2:20 PM
Author: Soul-stirring internal respiration public bath



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Date: September 25th, 2014 2:27 PM
Author: Violent beady-eyed pisswyrm

this metaphor becomes more true in my mind the more i think about

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Date: September 25th, 2014 2:31 PM
Author: silver doobsian son of senegal mad cow disease

imagine being stuck in a car, waiting patiently as four of our sacred american heifers drunkenly meander across the highway

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Date: September 25th, 2014 2:41 PM
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Date: April 24th, 2017 11:44 PM
Author: Carmine stimulating jew

literally yesterday's WSJ:

The Rancorous Politics of Meat in India

Protection of Cows is the single-most important principle, tweeted one official.

A cow shelter in Rajasthan.

A cow shelter in Rajasthan. PHOTO: CHANDAN KHANNA/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES

By Sadanand Dhume

Updated April 23, 2017 5:21 p.m. ET

37 COMMENTS

Is it acceptable for vigilantes to beat a man to death for transporting cattle? In most countries, the question would be ludicrous. In India it has sparked a fresh round of debate on a charged issue: how governments should regulate beef in a land where most people regard the cow as sacred.

Earlier this month, on a busy highway in the northern state of Rajasthan, self-appointed cow protectors stopped two pickup trucks carrying livestock bought at a local market. The mob assaulted Pehlu Khan, a 55-year-old Muslim dairy farmer, and four other men. Khan later died in the hospital of injuries suffered during the beating.

Indias ruling Bharatiya Janata Party, or BJP, has tightened restrictions on beef in several states that it controls. Proponents of these laws see protecting cows as an essential symbol of a humane Hindu civilization that values life. According to the conservative columnist Swapan Dasgupta, restricting beef in India is a matter of bowing to common decencies.

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Many BJP supporters also view the issue through a historical prism. They argue that for centuries, first under Muslim rulers and then under the British, Hindus lacked the political power to end a practice that they found hurtful and humiliating. Its only natural, then, for independent India to honor the religious sentiments of the wide majority of its people. Some 4 in 5 Indians are Hindus, most of whom revere the cow.

Beef-ban opponents tend to couch their arguments in the language of modernity and minority rights. In this view, penalties for the sale or consumption of beef are out of step with both modern times and the rest of the world. In a constitutionally secular republic, what gives pious Hindus the right to police the plates of those who dont share the same taboos?

They also argue that, with thuggish vigilante groups linked to the BJP mushrooming in states such as Rajasthan and Uttar Pradesh, the alleged piety of cow protectors is often little more than a license to harass Muslims who work in the meat industry.

In a democracy, its hardly unusual for politicians to respond to public sentiment. For example, Taiwan banned the consumption of dog meat earlier this month.

Nonetheless, Indias rush to protect cows suggests a deeper malaise: Under Prime Minister Narendra Modi and BJP President Amit Shah, personal liberties are shrinking.

Activists linked to the ruling party are often at the vanguard of efforts to slap police cases on authors, justify violence against artists, stop interfaith romances and shut down late-night dance venues. The result: an India that is reducing the choices its people enjoy on matters of food, drink and entertainment.

Beef is emblematic of the BJPs impulse to ban what it doesnt like. Last month the western state of Gujarat raised the maximum penalty for cow slaughter to life in prison from seven years. Protection of Cows is the single-most important principle towards saving the whole world from both moral and spiritual degradation, tweeted Chief Minister Vijay Rupani.

Not to be outdone, the chief minister of another BJP-ruled state, Chhattisgarh in central India, told a reporter that not a single cow had been killed there in 15 yearsand that if anyone killed one he would be hanged. In Uttar Pradesh, which the BJP won last month in a landslide, new Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath has placed a drive to shutter allegedly illegal abattoirs at the top of his agenda.

In 2015 BJP-ruled Maharashtra and Haryana put in place stringent regulations against killing cows or selling beef. In Haryana you can be jailed for five years and fined 50,000 rupees (about $780) for having a steak in your fridge. Rajasthans BJP government has set up an entire ministry for cow protection.

Evidently all this is not enough. Last week the head of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, the Hindu nationalist group that provides the BJP with much of its organizational muscle, demanded a nationwide ban on cow slaughter. Never mind that all but a handful of Indias 29 states already place some kind of restrictions on the practice, most dating to the early decades after independence in 1947.

With national elections approaching in 2019, Messrs. Modi and Shah likely reckon that beef bans will improve their prospects. Anyone who opposes them risks being labeled anti-Hindu by the party.

In a larger sense, however, an India that constricts rather than expands the choices its citizens can make is going backward. In most of the democratic world, dealing with diversity involves accommodating an expanding range of dietary preferences: think halal meat shops in London or vegetarian Indian restaurants in suburban Virginia. Its too bad that India appears to be traveling in the opposite direction.

Mr. Dhume is a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/indias-backward-politics-of-food-1492453270

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Date: September 25th, 2014 12:01 PM
Author: Racy lemon university

As usual, the Jezebel response is incoherent.

http://jezebel.com/frat-alumni-president-blames-drunk-female-guests-for-ru-1638524129/all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26394515)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 12:13 PM
Author: aromatic rose shrine yarmulke

The comments on the article are surprisingly somewhat reasonable, or at least confused about why jezebel is so mad about, well, teaching men not to rape.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26394577)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 12:47 PM
Author: black halford deer antler

"There are so many things wrong with that paragraph..." that the author couldn't be bothered to address them and instead resorted to the catty, hyperbolic snark that passes for criticism in internet feminism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26394760)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 1:53 PM
Author: Racy lemon university

I can't even...



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26395161)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 7:50 PM
Author: Naked codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26397725)



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Date: October 30th, 2014 4:14 PM
Author: Very tactful passionate persian

you mean "passes for criticism in America, 2014"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26616143)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 2:26 PM
Author: Soul-stirring internal respiration public bath

What a fucking carnival. Women mad as fuck this author is trying to take drunk girls away from their chads

Women really just want all ugly men to be murdered or castrated and made into their slaves

Do ANY women see through this bullshit? There is no consistency, no self-awareness whatsoever in modern feminism. How can anyone take it seriously? and we're expected to be "male allies" despite all this? Fuck this gay earth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26395401)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 2:35 PM
Author: Pink address

this is why i avoid dating american girls as much as possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26395464)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 2:40 PM
Author: Soul-stirring internal respiration public bath

I'm seeing an ardent feminist right now. She even knows I'm anti-modern feminism but still fawns over me and is submissive as fuck. Am I a chad? Whatever, I'm on the wizards' side.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26395502)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 2:44 PM
Author: cerebral private investor

No, you're not a chad and no one fawns over you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26395547)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 2:48 PM
Author: Soul-stirring internal respiration public bath

But I just said the opposite, I think you misread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26395603)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 2:40 PM
Author: brindle razzmatazz goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26395500)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 2:26 PM
Author: Violent beady-eyed pisswyrm

thought policing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26395403)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 2:40 PM
Author: transparent fighting church building degenerate

smudge thinks that all this rape hysteria will end hook-up culture and eventually force us back into the old timey courting and shotgun marriages that kicked off the feminist movement in the first place.

smudge thinks that the more thing change, the more they stay the same

#wisdom

#smudge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26395505)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 3:18 PM
Author: Seedy vivacious circlehead

I hope smudge is right

/Smudge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26395827)



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Date: September 25th, 2014 2:48 PM
Author: transparent fighting church building degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26395595)



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Date: October 18th, 2014 8:25 PM
Author: silver doobsian son of senegal mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26544179)



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Date: October 30th, 2014 4:12 PM
Author: Grizzly cuck

i bet if you polled women, they could not figure out why they didn't like the piece other than it does not blame men enough for rape.

the advice, if followed:

(1) clearly protects women from rape;

(2) clearly protects women from alcohol poisoning;

(3) clearly protects the physical safety of women;

(4) requires men, not women, to take the initiative in not fucking while drunk.

women don't like his tone. he is not an adequate supplicant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26616129)



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Date: October 30th, 2014 4:18 PM
Author: lavender rebellious state nibblets

because it leads to an outcome that's NOT what they want, which is for wizards to silently and unobtrusively flagellate/castrate themselves while dumpy 4's run buckwild at chad frat houses. preventing rape by limiting hookup culture is patriarchal, how DARE you try to restrain college women's ENTITLEMENT TO buckwild sexual expression with multiple chads per weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26616166)



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Date: October 30th, 2014 4:24 PM
Author: silver doobsian son of senegal mad cow disease

absolutely cr. this advice, if heeded, would result in sexual frustration of many 4s who might, when sober, fail to hold Chad's attention for a significant amount of time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26616205)



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Date: October 30th, 2014 4:26 PM
Author: Grizzly cuck

Let's be realistic though. Women don't think this through. That isn't what's happening here. It's really about tone; it's about his failure to have an attitude of apology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26616223)



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Date: October 30th, 2014 4:33 PM
Author: silver doobsian son of senegal mad cow disease

Brother if you ever again imply that I believe women, particularly this modern feminist scourge, think issues through, I will go completely benzo on you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26616274)



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Date: October 30th, 2014 4:34 PM
Author: Grizzly cuck

tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26616283)



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Date: October 30th, 2014 4:34 PM
Author: lavender rebellious state nibblets

their cunts do the thinking for them. it's all instinctual. then they get on their huffpo and women's studies podia and figure out some insane self-righteous social justice angle to advance their agenda. "reason is & ought to be slave of passions" #evobio

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26616284)



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Date: October 30th, 2014 4:36 PM
Author: Grizzly cuck

funny, but yes I'm right about the tone thing, regardless of where it emanates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26616294)



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Date: December 10th, 2014 7:40 PM
Author: silver doobsian son of senegal mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26903489)



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Date: October 30th, 2014 6:33 PM
Author: Idiotic slate laser beams fortuitous meteor

these are all just surrogates for what the goal of feminism

the goal is empowerment.

if men don't rape women because they choose not to out of self-preservation, they are not empowering women

if men don't get women drunk to the point of alcohol poisoning because of self-preservation, they are not empowering women

if men don't physically hurt women because they are concerned about the consequences to themselves, they are not empowering women

if drunk men don't fuck drunk women because they are concerned about the consequences, women are not empowered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26616972)



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Date: October 30th, 2014 8:33 PM
Author: silver doobsian son of senegal mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#26617602)



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Date: October 22nd, 2015 10:19 AM
Author: silver doobsian son of senegal mad cow disease



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Date: July 21st, 2017 3:57 AM
Author: Jet-lagged becky



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Date: August 27th, 2017 6:41 AM
Author: silver doobsian son of senegal mad cow disease



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:40 PM
Author: arousing insanely creepy potus dingle berry



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Date: December 15th, 2017 7:18 AM
Author: arousing insanely creepy potus dingle berry



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Date: October 30th, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: misunderstood sapphire quadroon legend

https://fee.org/people/bill-frezza/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2683670&forum_id=2,#37127758)



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Date: May 18th, 2019 3:39 AM
Author: Buff temple



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