I am deeply disturbed by the rising popularity of not having children
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Date: February 6th, 2024 10:18 AM Author: indigo galvanic locale dopamine
First of all, it’s bad for society.
Second of all, it’s hard to relate to people who have chosen not to have children for whatever reason. They are so weird.
Finally, a lot of times, these people just want to veg out and watch screens all day and let their life waste away into nothing. Or alternatively they go and travel too much. Either way, it’s depressing.
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Date: February 6th, 2024 10:19 AM Author: impertinent church
sadder still is that most of the kids-havers are as listless as the childless. they plug kids into ipad and then plugself in.
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Date: February 6th, 2024 10:27 AM Author: Exhilarant opaque space trump supporter
its furking women and social media. their birdbrains see whatever on tiktok and IG and they all follow it, it spreads like wildfire, its far easier to turn their birdbrains into whatever position now
im also suprised because in the 90's 00's even 10's it was super expected to have kids, everyone defaulted to that but now its almost like in the span of just a few years the default has become never having kids and its not just SPS USA its spread to asia too, this feminazi shrew bullshit is taking over
i dunno why but i tend to blame the jews
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Date: February 6th, 2024 11:36 AM Author: passionate private investor
It is an issue in our marriage. The kids understand there is distance between what Dad thinks and what Mom thinks. It helps that Mom doesn't articulate anything that concerns ideology or belief systems to the kids, she just isn't involved. Still, the kids know that Mom doesn't like church, and they know that I do, so the kids can sense we aren't on the same page on this.
It also hurts that Mom hates that I take the kids on Sundays because she doesn't like that I have to get out of bed, get them ready, etc. Any event that requires the kids to look nice will always entail some degree of struggle to get the kids ready. However, the kids like going, we either walk or take the golf cart, and once we leave the house my wife just watches TV by herself until we come home.
But yea, it's not ideal, but I appreciate that the children's spiritual upbringing is left entirely to me and I really take this responsibility as seriously as I can.
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Date: February 6th, 2024 1:42 PM Author: passionate private investor
My wife has a deep seated aversion to any organized religion. The only thing that she really has said about it is that it's all made up nonsense, but I don't believe that's it.
It's more of a problem with her thinking - which seems focused on satisfying needs on a minute by minute basis. She suffers from panic attack meltdowns pretty frequently, so it seems she spends most of her time on Earth just moving from one "I want this now" to the next "I want this now," but does so with an urgency as if she gets upset she can spiral out of control at any moment. The greater questions of life don't bother her, it is more of "I am tired now" - so she has to lay down, or "I am hungry and want pizza," so she would be focused on getting pizza. There just isn't much more going on than that, and having a robust spirituality does nothing to resolve the pressing issue of something like "it's nice out and I want a new outfit," or something like that.
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Date: February 6th, 2024 10:47 AM Author: brindle bipolar heaven jap
Society should not shame people that decide not to have kids or have fewer kids. There are still plenty of breeders out there. There are way more people that have no business being parents having kids than there are people not having any kids.
Life is just too fragile and some people cannot handle that uncertainty. With being educated comes a stronger desire to be in control and stronger awareness of what all can go wrong.
Also, we are no longer peasants producing labor units. These kids need to be sustained and educated for extended period of time till they can be independent. Many people don't want to do that and I can understand that.
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Date: February 6th, 2024 10:52 AM Author: impertinent church
homo sapiens needing like 20 years of rearing has been an evolutionary disaster
necessitates females stay at home their entire adulthood, which is all well and good until our ((economy)) figured out how rich some can get once females are out "earning" and "spending"
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Date: February 6th, 2024 11:49 AM Author: Stimulating Stage
Humans don't actually need 20 years of rearing
They need about 12. Children were self sufficient by pre pubescent age before the modern era
Nothing about how we currently treat children makes any sense. It's actually very creepy and disturbing when you really break down how we see and treat children in the current year
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Date: February 6th, 2024 10:50 AM Author: Stimulating Stage
The truth is that humans have never had children because they specifically wanted children in and of themselves. They had children because they had sex without birth control and because they were incentivized to do so by social convention and because children were a net economic benefit
Children are now a luxury good, and a luxury good that takes an enormous amount of effort and investment - more effort and investment than any other luxury good or status symbol. I’m not passing a value judgment on this I’m just stating the facts
If we want people to have kids we have to incentivize them to do it in some way. Giving them money isn’t enough (pro natalist handouts to parents don’t actually work in practice). We have to give them status, and an overwhelming amount of it, enough to more than offset the massive burden of having and raising children. It has to be socially unacceptable to be a childless bachelor or an old maid. And keep in mind that I’m saying this as a childless bachelor myself
Almost no one is even willing to honestly recognize the real problem, let alone entertain the solution. Any time I bring up any of this stuff people just sperg out, whether it’s irl or online. It’s always just endless virtue signaling and whining and circle jerking and cowardly avoidance of talking about reality
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Date: February 6th, 2024 10:54 AM Author: Stimulating Stage
This is undeniably true and anybody with a shred of intelligence and honesty can derive it from the facts available
This is exactly what I’m talking about. People like you going Full Gunnerattt and immediately sperging out before you can even have a conversation with them about this topic. Use your brain. Focus
If you are too dumb and/or too lazy to spend a few minutes trying to grasp this kind of an abstract equation, you shouldn’t even be worrying about this stuff to begin with. Keep building your widgets or fart apps and raising your kids. You’re already doing your job. Leave the thinking stuff to the smart people
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Date: February 6th, 2024 11:52 PM Author: silver gas station generalized bond
I make 500k and can only afford a 1BR in an area with 90% Mexican schools
those Mexicans live in $2-3m houses btw
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Date: February 7th, 2024 12:34 AM Author: big-titted clear background story
"First of all, it’s bad for society."
Source?
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Date: February 7th, 2024 7:59 AM Author: Magical aromatic clown
as many others upthread have already identified, you have to make the path of least resistance having children. you have to put people in an environment that makes it easy to make the choices you want to see. quarter measures like paid maternity leave don't stand a chance of convincing women to have kids against the onslaught of disincentives not to.
if there is any silver lining, i do like that it has made it easier for women who would make bad mothers and who aren't presidisposed to motherhood to have children, many of whom are lesbians. also, homeschooling and trad family subculture is booming right now.
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Date: December 3rd, 2024 8:49 AM Author: jet brunch
Life on easy mode.
Fun at first but without challenge its going to be incredibly vaccuous.
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