\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

Fun Talmud Hypo: Found $100 Bill On Shabbos; OK To Kick It Home? (Link)

Shabbos and Yom Tov #41 Found Money Rabbi Meir Orlian Wed...
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
180
Gaped sepia whorehouse
  03/23/26
Why can't you just ask a shabbos goyim to pick it up for you...
magical gold bbw set
  03/23/26
...
Drab Haunted Graveyard Personal Credit Line
  03/23/26
Yes you fucking moron. The hypo does not mention asking a sh...
magical gold bbw set
  03/23/26
poor rc? it literally says "non-Jew" which is a sh...
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
a non-Jew is just another shabbos goyim? I thought shabbos g...
magical gold bbw set
  03/23/26
i dont think jews are allowed to have a shabbos goy go so fa...
Gaped sepia whorehouse
  03/23/26
no goyim are dumb enough to do that anymore, so now elevator...
magical gold bbw set
  03/23/26
rofl didnt u live in mfh? any goy can be a shabbos goy. ...
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
what about something like "hm, well, you could pick up ...
magical gold bbw set
  03/23/26
perhaps too direct. might be better like this: "hm, ...
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
...
magical gold bbw set
  03/23/26
is there a difference based on the monetary amount? why is ...
Bat-shit-crazy Exhilarant Cruise Ship
  03/23/26
cq. the answer ues the phrase "if you found a valuable ...
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
why did jews invent all these retarded ass rules just to fig...
Slate ape lodge
  03/23/26
...
Drab Haunted Graveyard Personal Credit Line
  03/23/26
...
Bat-shit-crazy Exhilarant Cruise Ship
  03/23/26
...
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
...
Bipolar Mischievous Parlour
  03/23/26
i dont even understand the last sentence. it seems to indica...
Gaped sepia whorehouse
  03/23/26
it's talking about the western law equivalent of a claim of ...
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
so you cna find a diamond ring (not a $100 bill) (and as lon...
Gaped sepia whorehouse
  03/23/26
dental floss in the sky tp lol
Bat-shit-crazy Exhilarant Cruise Ship
  03/23/26
depends on whether the diamond ring is considered mukzeh. ...
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
now let's just be 100% honest here: if you or another kike s...
magical gold bbw set
  03/23/26
there's always yom kippur to atone for our sins!
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
Maybe this log in glitch isn't so bad after all. I don't nee...
Sapphire Space
  03/23/26
i was hoping to poast it saturday night, and couldn't poast ...
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
The real answer: Any Jew, through the power of choseness, ca...
galvanic candlestick maker
  03/23/26
see joshua 10:12-14 -- joshua's long day and the moon standi...
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
jews and other orthodox types excel as lawyers because they ...
Bipolar Mischievous Parlour
  03/23/26
cr, and goyim excel as beasts of burden because theyve spent...
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
then why dont niggers do a better job of it?
Sapphire Space
  03/23/26
...
Drab Haunted Graveyard Personal Credit Line
  03/23/26
...
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
...
magical gold bbw set
  03/23/26
talmud has a lot about agriculture and farming doesn't it? b...
Bipolar Mischievous Parlour
  03/23/26
yes, but the talmud era was 200-500 ce, and we werent allowe...
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
what does that have to do with you going on the internet in ...
Bipolar Mischievous Parlour
  03/23/26
This is hilarious. I wish I was Jewish.
Diverse range
  03/23/26
I genuinely wish I would've had this sort of logical puzzle ...
Dashing den depressive
  03/23/26
rules are meant to be broken
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
there are a lot of cultures that have the opposite value
Dashing den depressive
  03/23/26
yep, look at obedient subservient orientals. pathetic.
mentally impaired dull base elastic band
  03/23/26
one weird trick
Dashing den depressive
  03/23/26
goyim picking up hundred dollar bills and holding them up ov...
Ebony useless menage
  03/23/26


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 8:50 AM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band

Shabbos and Yom Tov #41

Found Money

Rabbi Meir Orlian

Wed Mar 18 2026

Based on the writings of Rav Chaim Kohn, שליט''א

Based on the writings of Harav Chaim Kohn, shlita

Q

While taking a Shabbos walk, I encountered a $100 bill. Am I allowed to possess it?

There is an issue of muktzeh and — if no eruv

— an issue of carrying. Although Chazal provided certain leniencies regarding the prospective loss of one’s wallet, the leniencies are not applicable to money that is found, since it is not yours yet (O.C. 266:13).

Thus, you may not pick up the $100 bill, even if there is an eruv, because of muktzeh (Mishnah Berurah 266:38). However, according to many Acharonim, you can kick it aside with your foot to a secure place if there is an eruv (Shemiras Shabbos K’Hilchasah 22:36).

There is a dispute between the Acharonim as to whether you may tell a non-Jew to pick up the bill for you, despite its being muktzeh. However, while you may not tell him to carry it if there is no eruv, if he chooses to bring it to your house of his own accord, you do not have to stop him (Mishnah Ber-urah, ibid.).

Nonetheless, if you found a valuable item that is not muktzeh and there is an eruv, you may possess it and take it home. It is not considered a transac-tion, because there is no seller or giver. However, you should not raise it in a manner that blatantly indicates acquisition (Shemiras Shabbos K’Hilcha-sah 29:32[89]).

https://businesshalacha.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/business_weekly/item_946_en_BW_792.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49761664)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:37 AM
Author: Gaped sepia whorehouse

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762232)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:57 AM
Author: magical gold bbw set

Why can't you just ask a shabbos goyim to pick it up for you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762305)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:59 AM
Author: Drab Haunted Graveyard Personal Credit Line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762309)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:25 PM
Author: magical gold bbw set

Yes you fucking moron. The hypo does not mention asking a shabbos goyim, just "someone"

Shabbos goyim are how you pricks trick God

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762436)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band

poor rc? it literally says "non-Jew" which is a shabbos goy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762633)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:37 PM
Author: magical gold bbw set

a non-Jew is just another shabbos goyim? I thought shabbos goyim were blessed by rabbis or something so that they're allowed to facilitate your trickery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762896)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:39 PM
Author: Gaped sepia whorehouse

i dont think jews are allowed to have a shabbos goy go so far as to come into their apartment and cook for them, turn on lights etc.

but jews are allowed to stand there dumbly in an elevator until a goy pushes their floor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762909)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:41 PM
Author: magical gold bbw set

no goyim are dumb enough to do that anymore, so now elevators in MFH just stop at every floor on Fridays and Saturdays.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762916)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:46 PM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band

rofl didnt u live in mfh?

any goy can be a shabbos goy.

generally, you cant ask a shabbos goy directly do so something. that's why the case says "if he chooses to bring it to your house of his own accord, you do not have to stop him."

you have to hint your shabbos goy "it'd be really nice to have that $100 bill after shabbos" or "no i dont want you to pick up that $100 bill for me, but you can bring it to my house for me to have after shabbos only if you really want to"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762935)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:48 PM
Author: magical gold bbw set

what about something like "hm, well, you could pick up that $100 bill and keep it for yourself, but if you really want that loan to get approved, then you will need to bring me the $100 bill after shabbos"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762939)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:54 PM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band

perhaps too direct. might be better like this:

"hm, well, you could pick up that $100 bill and keep it for yourself, but too bad it's shabbos because otherwise i'd love to have that $100 myself to pay for pesach expenses. remember, you do want that loan approved, haha"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762966)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: magical gold bbw set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762991)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 11:59 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Exhilarant Cruise Ship

is there a difference based on the monetary amount? why is this hypo $100 and not $1 or even one penny?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762310)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:22 PM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band

cq. the answer ues the phrase "if you found a valuable item ..."

there is something in halacha about avoiding significant financial losses, but it's not clear how to apply this here... or whether a $5 or a $20 might be a valuable item.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762636)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:01 PM
Author: Slate ape lodge

why did jews invent all these retarded ass rules just to figure out loopholes? and why do you people still "follow" these rules in the modern era?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762313)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:08 PM
Author: Drab Haunted Graveyard Personal Credit Line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762347)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:23 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Exhilarant Cruise Ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762428)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:22 PM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762637)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:48 PM
Author: Bipolar Mischievous Parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762938)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: Gaped sepia whorehouse

i dont even understand the last sentence. it seems to indicate you should not hold the pilfered goods high like a trophy but should instead cloak them in your black suits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762443)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:26 PM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band

it's talking about the western law equivalent of a claim of right and taking formal ownership. remember the shit in 1L properly law about taking ownership and making a claim against the world? its kind of the same thing.

in jewish law, you acquire something through an action asserting ownership. but you can't take formal ownership on shabbos. so it's giving a loophole so you can kinda take custody of the item without really taking formal ownership.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762644)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:34 PM
Author: Gaped sepia whorehouse

so you cna find a diamond ring (not a $100 bill) (and as long as there is dental floss in teh sky), take it home and then claim ownership over it at sunset?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762670)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:35 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Exhilarant Cruise Ship

dental floss in the sky tp lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762671)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 1:45 PM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band

depends on whether the diamond ring is considered mukzeh.

mukzeh means something that has no shabbos purpose. you're not allowed to touch mukzeh, which is an item that has no shabbos purpose.

a $100 bill is mukzeh since it has no shabbos purpose.

a diamond ring that's wearable might not be mukzeh since women wear jewelry on shabbos.

but if you found a raw 5ct diamond, it's mukzeh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762730)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:39 PM
Author: magical gold bbw set

now let's just be 100% honest here: if you or another kike spots a raw 5ct diamond laying on the ground during shabbos, do you really expect us to believe you wouldn't bend over, pick it up, and hide it in your shtreimel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762910)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:42 PM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band

there's always yom kippur to atone for our sins!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762921)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:42 PM
Author: Sapphire Space

Maybe this log in glitch isn't so bad after all. I don't need to be exposed to this stupid horseshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762919)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:43 PM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band

i was hoping to poast it saturday night, and couldn't poast it until mid-morning monday. it's a shonda!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762922)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:44 PM
Author: galvanic candlestick maker

The real answer: Any Jew, through the power of choseness, can temporarily form a bubble of Friday around self, thus not violating the law of Saturday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762928)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band

see joshua 10:12-14 -- joshua's long day and the moon standing still for 24 hours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762946)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:49 PM
Author: Bipolar Mischievous Parlour

jews and other orthodox types excel as lawyers because they have spent centuries creating legal loopholes to trick their own god.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762944)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band

cr, and goyim excel as beasts of burden because theyve spent centuries toiling the land

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762949)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: Sapphire Space

then why dont niggers do a better job of it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762994)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:01 PM
Author: Drab Haunted Graveyard Personal Credit Line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762999)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49763039)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: magical gold bbw set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49762995)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:02 PM
Author: Bipolar Mischievous Parlour

talmud has a lot about agriculture and farming doesn't it? but i suppose disregarding that because you consider laboring for your own sustenance beneath you is exactly the type of creating loopholes for your own religion that we're talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49763008)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:13 PM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band

yes, but the talmud era was 200-500 ce, and we werent allowed to own land in europe in much more recent times,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49763041)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: Bipolar Mischievous Parlour

what does that have to do with you going on the internet in 2026 to shit on goys for farming?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49763046)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 7:10 PM
Author: Diverse range

This is hilarious. I wish I was Jewish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49763586)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:15 PM
Author: Dashing den depressive

I genuinely wish I would've had this sort of logical puzzle training as a child learning about the world, to push back against dumbass rules

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49763927)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:19 PM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band

rules are meant to be broken

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49763936)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:24 PM
Author: Dashing den depressive

there are a lot of cultures that have the opposite value

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49763943)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: mentally impaired dull base elastic band

yep, look at obedient subservient orientals. pathetic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49763956)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:31 PM
Author: Dashing den depressive

one weird trick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49763958)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 23rd, 2026 9:26 PM
Author: Ebony useless menage

goyim picking up hundred dollar bills and holding them up over their head like Link finding a huge rupee, SMDH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5848647&forum_id=2,#49763948)